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Brett Stewart found not guilty of sexual assault

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It's hard to know what to assume. At times my posts could've looked like I did or I didn't. It's hard to state an opinion like it, until the facts have heard. Just like on the field.
 

Eels Dude

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It's hard to know what to assume. At times my posts could've looked like I did or I didn't. It's hard to state an opinion like it, until the facts have heard. Just like on the field.

Agreed. Your posts seem very logical actually. I don't know more facts of the case than you do. It just seems those who jump to Stewart's defence seem to only 'jump' on the reports which favour him and the club. I can understand why they would defend him, but it's very difficult to attempt to discuss situations like this with other forum members if it involves rose coloured glasses and such.
 
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Nothing, in fact I commend it and more people should do it.

I think it's very judgemental for people to assume Stewart is guilty, but at the same time I think it is even more judgemental to assume an alledged victim is guilty of lying and deceiving for financial gain which certain people are stating.

I really don't care one way or the other how it finishes up. If he did it, I hope he's found guilty, if he didn't, I hope he's found not guilty. I hope if he does get found not guilty its because he didn't do it, not because his lawyer found some legal technicality.

In the meantime, standing him down is the right thing for the NRL to have done. It takes some of the heat out of the situation.
 
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im a dragons fan for the record.

i am neutral as far as im not a manly fan, and brett stewart isnt one of my fave players or anything.

but i will admit i am giving stewart the benefit of the doubt on this because he has never been in trouble before.

Hope you enjoyed last night's game...;-)
 

gaterooze

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the very first reports of the incident say that the family had just moved into the complex but were already planning to move (PRIOR to the incident)?
 

Dutchy

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the very first reports of the incident say that the family had just moved into the complex but were already planning to move (PRIOR to the incident)?

Probably because of the bouncing cheques.
 

Garts

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I think she means neutral in the fact she is not a Manly fan and is not a Stewart lover so is not being influenced by any team loyalty like some of us Manly fans are.
 

El Diablo

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This blog article notes how the media has buried the story of a Brisbane Lions player who is in strife at the moment: http://nofuninpublic.wordpress.com/...-good-for-the-sea-eagle-is-good-for-the-lion/
I think that the NRL needs to get a good contra/press coverage deal in the next rights package!

very hard to find much on that even when you look

the media, as usual, are doing an AFL cover up job

http://forums.leagueunlimited.com/showthread.php?p=5470900#post5470900
 

Timmah

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I think she means neutral in the fact she is not a Manly fan and is not a Stewart lover so is not being influenced by any team loyalty like some of us Manly fans are.

She might be a neutral from that perspective, but she has an emotional & physical bias toward all players from a gender point of view. I think you understand what I mean.
 

sass

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She might be a neutral from that perspective, but she has an emotional & physical bias toward all players from a gender point of view. I think you understand what I mean.

bahahaha omg that's the most ridiculous and patronising thing I've ever heard.
 

Timmah

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How did I know you'd say that?

Are you suggesting the opinions of ladies such as yourself aren't affected by the fact you have an affection for them on a level other than just football players? The intent isn't to patronise either yourself or Kiki - but that would have an influence on your opinion... surely you can see what I mean by that?
 

sass

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it's as patronising as saying women can't be objective cause they have pms or men can't control themselves cause of testosterone.

I think we're both pretty up front about when there's a difference between what we think logically and what we think emotionally.

that has nothing to do with having vaginas. lots of men blindly support league players and ignore the facts cause they love the game. just like lots of women blindly support them for the same reason, or cause they're just sooooooo dreamy.
 

sass

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ps I'm glad when you say sexist things you know I'm gonna argue with you. that makes me proud.
 

Eels Dude

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How did I know you'd say that?

Are you suggesting the opinions of ladies such as yourself aren't affected by the fact you have an affection for them on a level other than just football players? The intent isn't to patronise either yourself or Kiki - but that would have an influence on your opinion... surely you can see what I mean by that?

Some can say it's patronising but there's no doubt you are right. You only need to read a dozen of Kiki's posts and her reasoning behind her opinions to work that out.
 

Timmah

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Some can say it's patronising but there's no doubt you are right. You only need to read a dozen of Kiki's posts and her reasoning behind her opinions to work that out.
Good, I'm glad someone knows what I meant.
it's as patronising as saying women can't be objective cause they have pms or men can't control themselves cause of testosterone.

I think we're both pretty up front about when there's a difference between what we think logically and what we think emotionally.

that has nothing to do with having vaginas. lots of men blindly support league players and ignore the facts cause they love the game. just like lots of women blindly support them for the same reason, or cause they're just sooooooo dreamy.
I'm not making a generalisation about women, my girlfriend's pretty clear on her opinion of this Stewart matter herself, completely removed from yours tbh. I see that each one is different. In this instance, I think Kiki is struggling to seperate her love of footballers (emotion) from the facts of the case (logic). That's my opinion, and I didn't intend to indict women on the way to communicating that. If I did so, I apologise.
 

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