Brett Stewart found not guilty of sexual assault

[sneagle]

Just heard the police have sought and have been granted a 4 week extension for the AVO, preventing Stewart from returning to his home.

Anyone know how hard it is to do this or reasons behind? Other than protection for the alledged victim?

 

[franklin2323]

I don't think you can stand a player down any time an issue comes up. It opens it possibilities for extortion, and quite simply doesn't really achieve anything. You bring up "the good of the game" but to be honest I can't see the game losing or gaining any fans whether or not Brett Stewart plays while these dubious allegations are investigated. And yes, I think the Greg Bird case was different. He lied to police, and refused to say what happened to his coach and CEO. To me it comes down to a case by case basis, and even then it is and should be up to the club.

If Players don't get into situations for trouble to occur this won't happen. I don't go for them but the way the Tigers do functions is the best. Have a few drinks with fans/sponsors at the League's club. Then go as a team home or to a team mates house for a BBQ and a few more drinks.

If there's always a team mate their worse case an incident occurs ie a fight getting picked watever. There is a witness to say what happened. EPL, NFL players don't go out except to team mates owners house etc. It's easier to stay out of trouble

 

[Pete Cash]

Just heard the police have sought and have been granted a 4 week extension for the AVO, preventing Stewart from returning to his home.

Anyone know how hard it is to do this or reasons behind? Other than protection for the alledged victim?

I am fairly sure that an AVO is issued on the burden of proof of a civil case rather than a criminal. So the police believe on the balance of probabilities that he is likely to try and get in contact I guess?

I am not really sure why they would extend it. Does it suggest they believe they are going to bring charges against him.

 

[WhiteWesWelker]

Two questions for you ManlyMagic08...

1) With excess alcohol consumption having a proven negative physiological effect on the body, do you think it is okay for Manly players to get extremely drunk a week before the season?

2) Do you think it is okay for a man to tackle a woman on the street?

Thanks.

Manlymagic, don't be a dog. Answer teh questions.

 

[sneagle]

All i'm going to say to you Manly boys is that it doesn't matter what you've read, heard etc I don't think even you should be disputing the fact that it's 100% guarenteed that Brett Stewart was completely drunk off his chops on Friday night. If you do not believe THAT, then you're living in a fantasy world. That's not going to help in relation to him responding to these allegations one bit. He may have done nothing wrong, it may have been a misunderstanding, however if his version of events revolved around him having way too much to drink then it's not a good look.

I don't think it was a fact he was 100% drunk off his chops. I do believe with all the reports so far that yes he was drunk - but I do not, at this stage, know to what extent.
Was he so bad he was slurring his words?
Falling down drunk?
Very merry drunk but in control? To me me (and perhaps based on some? :roll: personal experience there are varying degrees).
I don't know and I certainly cannot trust and take as gospel The Telegraph's opinion based on their ever changing reporting of the incident and sources sooo close to the investigation.
Very strange that she has now been crash tackled....:?

 

[Pete Cash]

Yeah, I don't really think we can take anything the Telegraph says as true.

 

[MANLYMAGIC08]

The family is moving out immediately due to the fear of Manly fan backlash (what a crock of sh*t by the way), so Stewart will be able to go back to his place in no time.

 

[WhiteWesWelker]

The family is moving out immediately due to the fear of Manly fan backlash (what a crock of sh*t by the way), so Stewart will be able to go back to his place in no time.

Answer my questions you parasite.

 

[WhiteWesWelker]

The family is moving out immediately due to the fear of Manly fan backlash (what a crock of sh*t by the way), so Stewart will be able to go back to his place in no time.

Going by your posts and the actions of Manly fans to go to the police station to "support" Stewart, it is a legitimate fear for the family.

All I can say is it is disgusting that people are defending Stewart without knowing ANYTHING about what happened. Instead, people are dismissing media reports that show Stewart in a negative light and supporting media reports that discredit the family or show a more positive situation for Stewart.

And you do this all because they are members of your favourite sports team. Absolutely disgusting.

 

[sneagle]

Yeh, originally they were leaving the premises even before her statement to police now it's because of irate Manly fans.

I don't know even if they did move if that would void the AVO in place. It may be to protect witnesses as well? Pete Cash any ideas?

 

[Tommax25]

All I'm saying is lets stand him down - on full pay like Bird - and get it cleared up first. Nothing to do with the presumption of innocence. It's to do with due process and the good of the game.

Like I said in my previous posts, regardless of how you spin it I still think its unfair for him to be stood down when others were not but I have made my points and you have made yours more than once so we will have to agree to disagree otherwise we will be running in circles.

 

[Noa]

(Levity Time)

Homer knows what Bretts going through. Stewart never had to put up with pickets though.

Edited to add , yes, I can confirm that is Bartman holding the "Touch a butt: Go to jail" sign.

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

The family is moving out immediately due to the fear of Manly fan backlash (what a crock of sh*t by the way), so Stewart will be able to go back to his place in no time.

I have been out to Brookvale and on the hill they are as feral as they come. It was as if i was in Newcastle..

 

[Tommax25]

Police press on with Watmough inquiries



By GLENN JACKSON - SMH


His altercation with a club sponsor has been largely overshadowed by the sexual assault allegations against fullback Brett Stewart, but representative second-rower Anthony Watmough still faces punishment by the Sea Eagles - and possibly police.

The sponsor Watmough is alleged to have slapped during the club's boozy season launch is still considering pressing charges - even though the Test representative apologised to him the day after the altercation. It is understood the club will consider placing Watmough on an alcohol ban and is likely to fine him over the incident. It is also understood police investigations are continuing and detectives are trying to obtain a statement from the sponsor.
The corporate partner sponsor in question, who did not wish to be named, yesterday made it clear he was not completely satisfied with the apology issued on Saturday.
"The guy needs to pull his head in," he said of Watmough. "They get a bit of alcohol in them. I don't know what I'm going to do at the moment. He's apologised, and I've accepted the apology, but I still need to decide where I go from here."
Manly chief executive Grant Mayer said the club was continuing its own investigations but expressed surprise that police were continuing theirs.
"I'm a bit perplexed to hear the police are continuing to investigate, when as far as the hotel, the sponsor and the player are concerned, the issue's been resolved," Mayer said.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/2247772/Police-press-on-with-Watmough-inquiries

I agree he needs to pull his head in, but far out you cant accept and apology and then go on with the matter! If you wanted to go on with it you should have said "no, sorry watmough, what you did was appalling and I'm going to go down all my legal avenues". What a loser, he probably thought he should get on the bandwagon because of all the media hype with stewart. Also, what kind of sentence is "They get a bit of alcohol in them."?

 

[Eels Dude]

I don't think it was a fact he was 100% drunk off his chops. I do believe with all the reports so far that yes he was drunk - but I do not, at this stage, know to what extent.
Was he so bad he was slurring his words?
Falling down drunk?
Very merry drunk but in control? To me me (and perhaps based on some? :roll: personal experience there are varying degrees).
I don't know and I certainly cannot trust and take as gospel The Telegraph's opinion based on their ever changing reporting of the incident and sources sooo close to the investigation.
Very strange that she has now been crash tackled....:?

You may be right. Initial reports on sat stated he was refused service of alcohol at the end of the launch and refused entry into 3 clubs afterwards. That could be a slight exaggeration but regardless you'd be safe to assume he was heavily intoxicated. Nobody has publicy stated he was not drunk and behaved himself well. Given the ammount of people in attendence and who would have seem or spoken to him after he left you'd think someone would come to his defence. Even the Manly CEO and staff have admitted that things got out of control because of players drinking on Friday night.

 

[Tommax25]

And it doesn't sound like it had anything to do with sex or violence targetting women at all. The newspapers etc should hang their heads in shame if they fabricated the original sexual assault story. Someone must have if its not true.

I agree with that. It makes a bit more sense now becasue I was wondering why she was taken to hospital. It was never rape, which I think people do need to go to the hospital for? To check for bleeding or forced entry or whatever? It always sounded like unwanted advances, a stolen kiss, unwanted groping ect, so I always wondered what she went to hospital for, and why she was released so quickly.

 

[Eels Dude]

I agree he needs to pull his head in, but far out you cant accept and apology and then go on with the matter! If you wanted to go on with it you should have said "no, sorry watmough, what you did was appalling and I'm going to go down all my legal avenues". What a loser, he probably thought he should get on the bandwagon because of all the media hype with stewart. Also, what kind of sentence is "They get a bit of alcohol in them."?

If you were helping paying someone's wages and they smacked you in the head wouldn't you be a little annoyed. I agree legal action is not required but I think the bloke is at least entitled to have his say. His comments may have simply meant in relation the companies' future sponsorship with the club, or at least saying publicly players need to pull their head in. As a club sponsor I think that's perfectly reasonable and even required.

 

[Tommax25]

(Levity Time)

Homer knows what Bretts going through. Stewart never had to put up with pickets though.

Edited to add , yes, I can confirm that is Bartman holding the "Touch a butt: Go to jail" sign.

:lol:

 

[Tommax25]

If you were helping paying someone's wages and they smacked you in the head wouldn't you be a little annoyed. I agree legal action is not required but I think the bloke is at least entitled to have his say. His comments may have simply meant in relation the companies' future sponsorship with the club, or at least saying publicly players need to pull their head in. As a club sponsor I think that's perfectly reasonable and even required.

Yes I would be annoyed. Where did I say he cant explore his legal options? My point was that he accepted watmoughs apology, and now wants to pursue legal avenues ect. If he wanted to do that then dont accept his apology because he is f*cking watmough and manly around. Its clear from the article that they thought the matter was finished, as you would when the person involved has apologised and had that apology accepted, and now all of a sudden he has decided he might want to move forward? No, thats wrong, go home paul whoever you are.

 

[Eels Dude]

I agree with that. It makes a bit more sense now becasue I was wondering why she was taken to hospital. It was never rape, which I think people do need to go to the hospital for? To check for bleeding or forced entry or whatever? It always sounded like unwanted advances, a stolen kiss, unwanted groping ect, so I always wondered what she went to hospital for, and why she was released so quickly.

I don't think it was ever claimed to be rape. Sexual Assault is a very open term, it can simply mean forcing yourself upon someone, groping them etc as long as its against their will. It may be a legal requirement for charges to be laid to get a doctor's report from the hospital, maybe even just to assess the immediate mental health of an alledged victim, i'm not sure but that could be why.