Brett Stewart found not guilty of sexual assault

[MANLYMAGIC08]

I don't think it was ever claimed to be rape. Sexual Assault is a very open term, it can simply mean forcing yourself upon someone, groping them etc as long as its against their will. It may be a legal requirement for charges to be laid to get a doctor's report from the hospital, maybe even just to assess the immediate mental health of an alledged victim, i'm not sure but that could be why.

Yes it has! Tim Webster called Brett Stewart an alleged rapist on channel 10 news, there's a hell of a lot of mud in that statement!

 

[myanonymoususername]

I agree he needs to pull his head in, but far out you cant accept and apology and then go on with the matter! If you wanted to go on with it you should have said "no, sorry watmough, what you did was appalling and I'm going to go down all my legal avenues". What a loser, he probably thought he should get on the bandwagon because of all the media hype with stewart. Also, what kind of sentence is "They get a bit of alcohol in them."?

At the end of the day though, it should not be left to the sponsor to demand action from the club. I can't think of any business that would not sack an employee for assaulting a sponsor/client/business partner. That is exactly what should happen to Watmough, and that should be regardless of the sponsor pushing it, or the police action. It just comes down to the company (Manly) having decent standards of employee (Watmough) behaviour. He would be gone in any company I know of. Is it reasonable for football clubs to have lower standards than what the community would generally expect?

 

[attila_the_gorilla]

Yeah I agree the Watmough case is pretty bad, and not the first time he`s done something similar. He`s a very useful player, but I wouldn`t want him on my team.

 

[myanonymoususername]

If wrong, the NRL should sue her ass to high heaven

Why? No accusations have been made against the NRL, or even Manly for that matter. It is a personal legal matter for Brett Stewart.

Speaking of which, any legal fees paid by Manly on his behalf surely ought to come out of their salary cap. They are paying his personal expenses and that is by any reasonable definition additional income to him.

 

[Eels Dude]

Yes I would be annoyed. Where did I say he cant explore his legal options? My point was that he accepted watmoughs apology, and now wants to pursue legal avenues ect. If he wanted to do that then dont accept his apology because he is f*cking watmough and manly around. Its clear from the article that they thought the matter was finished, as you would when the person involved has apologised and had that apology accepted, and now all of a sudden he has decided he might want to move forward? No, thats wrong, go home paul whoever you are.

Mate, i'm not attacking you or anything. Sorry If I sounded that way. Any issue between a sponsor and a club is not going to be sorted within a day or two. It just sounds to me like he accepted the apology because he personally accepted it, however I don't think that means he shouldn't keep his options open down the track.

If someone hit me and apologised the next day then I may forgive them heartfully and accept their apology, however a week later after going to the dentist I might be told my jaw is slightly damaged and requires surgery. In that case while I hold no grudges against the person I still would need to consider my options. I'm not saying that's the case here, but it's one way of looking at things. This guy works for a sponsor of the club and you never know his position could be looked at or be barred from further functions because of this incident so he shouldn't be ruling anything out.

 

[Eels Dude]

Yes it has! Tim Webster called Brett Stewart an alleged rapist on channel 10 news, there's a hell of a lot of mud in that statement!

Well Tim Webster deserves criticism for that then, he and those who write for him are out of line.

 

[myanonymoususername]

Sooooooo they family had just moved into an apartment in Manly in which Brett Stewart lived.. they state they never knew he lived there and didn' even know who Brett Stewart was... okay, could be possible.. so where did they moved from???

FRENCHS FOREST... which is still in the Manly-Warringah district and where the criminal father owes $10,000 rent...

The three daughters goto high school in the Manly area and don't know who Brett Stewart is... riiiiight..

Believe it or not, but a large % of people don't actually give a rats arse about rugby league. At my work, I'd guess less than 25% actually care at all.

Probably says a lot about why crowds going to games are so sh*t, while I like RL, it is not followed with the same levels of passion as AFL in Melbourne, EPL in England etc.

Anyway, it is quite likely someone can live in the Manly area and not know much at all about the players. Heard of Manly - probably, heard of Brett Stewart - also probably, know what he looks like - possibly, know where he lives and move in there on the off chance of cashing in - ha ha, beyond the realms of fantasy (but wait there's more - get your 17 year old daughter to hang around outside in case Stewart comes home drunk one night, falls over on her and has a bit of a grope - that requires planning and anticipation of the highest order, and if the father was up to that, he'd be in business and a multi-squillionaire).

 

[Downie]

Yeh, originally they were leaving the premises even before her statement to police now it's because of irate Manly fans.

I don't know even if they did move if that would void the AVO in place. It may be to protect witnesses as well? Pete Cash any ideas?

Probably moving out because the people the father has defrauded now know where he lives ;-)

 

[perverse]

Anyway, it is quite likely someone can live in the Manly area and not know much at all about the players. Heard of Manly - probably, heard of Brett Stewart - also probably, know what he looks like - possibly, know where he lives and move in there on the off chance of cashing in - ha ha, beyond the realms of fantasy (but wait there's more - get your 17 year old daughter to hang around outside in case Stewart comes home drunk one night, falls over on her and has a bit of a grope - that requires planning and anticipation of the highest order, and if the father was up to that, he'd be in business and a multi-squillionaire).

i think this is quite poignant.

i actually have to agree with myanonymoususername and say that the conspiracy theorists must be having a bit of a laugh.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

http://www.leaguehq.com.au/news/sea...eaming-daughter/2009/03/07/1235842719924.html

On the Manly website, they ask you to join the Screaming Angels.
Maybe Snake was simply on a recruitment drive.

Quite poetic, but a possible catchcry could be "Become Scum".

 

[MANLYMAGIC08]

Believe it or not, but a large % of people don't actually give a rats arse about rugby league. At my work, I'd guess less than 25% actually care at all.

Probably says a lot about why crowds going to games are so sh*t, while I like RL, it is not followed with the same levels of passion as AFL in Melbourne, EPL in England etc.

Anyway, it is quite likely someone can live in the Manly area and not know much at all about the players. Heard of Manly - probably, heard of Brett Stewart - also probably, know what he looks like - possibly, know where he lives and move in there on the off chance of cashing in - ha ha, beyond the realms of fantasy (but wait there's more - get your 17 year old daughter to hang around outside in case Stewart comes home drunk one night, falls over on her and has a bit of a grope - that requires planning and anticipation of the highest order, and if the father was up to that, he'd be in business and a multi-squillionaire).

Dude, the Mainly Daily gets delivered into every letterbox in Frenchs Forest everyday (bar sunday). Stewart has been on both the front and back covers of these too many times to count in the last few years.. They don't read the paper? Even look at it.. :crazy:

hahahaha dude.. I can only laugh at you! I never insinuate he planned any of what you said..

 

[WhiteWesWelker]

Believe it or not, but a large % of people don't actually give a rats arse about rugby league. At my work, I'd guess less than 25% actually care at all.

Probably says a lot about why crowds going to games are so sh*t, while I like RL, it is not followed with the same levels of passion as AFL in Melbourne, EPL in England etc.

Anyway, it is quite likely someone can live in the Manly area and not know much at all about the players. Heard of Manly - probably, heard of Brett Stewart - also probably, know what he looks like - possibly, know where he lives and move in there on the off chance of cashing in - ha ha, beyond the realms of fantasy (but wait there's more - get your 17 year old daughter to hang around outside in case Stewart comes home drunk one night, falls over on her and has a bit of a grope - that requires planning and anticipation of the highest order, and if the father was up to that, he'd be in business and a multi-squillionaire).

Manlymagic is a pathetic flea. Won't even answer questions. Don't expect an ounce of intelligence from him.

 

[God-King Dean]

Anyway, it is quite likely someone can live in the Manly area and not know much at all about the players. Heard of Manly - probably, heard of Brett Stewart - also probably, know what he looks like - possibly, know where he lives and move in there on the off chance of cashing in - ha ha, beyond the realms of fantasy (but wait there's more - get your 17 year old daughter to hang around outside in case Stewart comes home drunk one night, falls over on her and has a bit of a grope - that requires planning and anticipation of the highest order, and if the father was up to that, he'd be in business and a multi-squillionaire).

:lol:

 

[WhiteWesWelker]

Dude, the Mainly Daily gets delivered into every letterbox in Frenchs Forest everyday (bar sunday). Stewart has been on both the front and back covers of these too many times to count in the last few years.. They don't read the paper? Even look at it.. :crazy:

hahahaha dude.. I can only laugh at you! I never insinuate he planned any of what you said..

I can tell you that in Bondi not a lot of people read the Wentworth Courier.

In fact, I will bet you $100 that a 17 year old won't read the local paper.

 

[sneagle]

Well Tim Webster deserves criticism for that then, he and those who write for him are out of line.

Totally agree.
I did do a brief search for a definition: http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/nsw/consol_act/ca190082/s61i.html

however I did not believe that to be the case here, and was under the impression that it covered a wier range.

I wish the police would issue a clarification.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Just heard the police have sought and have been granted a 4 week extension for the AVO, preventing Stewart from returning to his home.

Anyone know how hard it is to do this or reasons behind? Other than protection for the alledged victim?

I am fairly sure that an AVO is issued on the burden of proof of a civil case rather than a criminal. So the police believe on the balance of probabilities that he is likely to try and get in contact I guess?

I am not really sure why they would extend it. Does it suggest they believe they are going to bring charges against him.

There is no burden of proof on the balance of probabilities. The process of AVOs (especially when sought by the Police) are almost automatic.

The magistrate need only belive that there is some reasonable apprehension by the complainant. Magistrates will accept virtually anything in support of the claim.

As the extension today was sought by the Police it would be a mere continuance of the original order.

An AVO means nothing/zero/zip/nada in terms of indicating the potential of guilt or innocence of the alleged offence.

 

[Mr Saab]

Dude, the Mainly Daily gets delivered into every letterbox in Frenchs Forest everyday (bar sunday). Stewart has been on both the front and back covers of these too many times to count in the last few years.. They don't read the paper? Even look at it.. :crazy:

hahahaha dude.. I can only laugh at you! I never insinuate he planned any of what you said..

And?
Not everyone gives a flying tomato about sport. My brother has worked in Brookvale for 20 yrs and he wouldnt have a clue who Brett Stewart is if i showed him his picture.
All are not league nut cases like us!

 

[sneagle]

Why? No accusations have been made against the NRL, or even Manly for that matter. It is a personal legal matter for Brett Stewart.

Speaking of which, any legal fees paid by Manly on his behalf surely ought to come out of their salary cap. They are paying his personal expenses and that is by any reasonable definition additional income to him.

I do believe the NRL should have the right to recoup funds spent re:doing the ad campaign, and legal costs if Stewart is innocent. Yes he over induldged but do you really think anything would have come of the matter had there not been a sexual assault allegation.
By all accounts he was not behaving obnoxiously or offensively prior to this accusation and as such would not have had to had his image withdrawn.
If he is guilty then I hope they claim off him.

No I also do not believe the defence of any player of any club be brought under the salary cap.

 

[Jatz Crackers]

And?
Not everyone gives a flying tomato about sport. My brother has worked in Brookvale for 20 yrs and he wouldnt have a clue who Brett Stewart is if i showed him his picture.
All are not league nut cases like us!

Yes, but who would gift a flying tomato in the first place. I ask you !

 

[MANLYMAGIC08]

And?
Not everyone gives a flying tomato about sport. My brother has worked in Brookvale for 20 yrs and he wouldnt have a clue who Brett Stewart is if i showed him his picture.
All are not league nut cases like us!

Fair enuff!