What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Bring back Balmain

King Tigerman

Juniors
Messages
753
GoTheBears said:
Benny Elias would certainly love to see the Tigers back. As would I. But first i would like my Mighty Bears back thank you very much, the most screwed team of all.

now you can wake up & get back to reality

BALMAIN ARENT COMING BACK I HAVE LEARNED TO LIVE WITH IT BUT SADLY THERE IS A SMALL MINORITY WHO DONT BELIEVE IT , ALSO TUGGER WHEN YOURE SON IS PLAYING IN THE EASTS JUNIORS BECAUE BALMAIN DONT EXIST YOU CAN TELL HIM WHY , BECAUSE TOU CAN NOT LOOK INTO THE FUTURE YOU & YOURE BUDDY YAPPY LIVE IN A WORLD OF MAKEBELIEVE YOU THINK THE CURRENT REDEVELOPMENT OF THE MCG IS FOR THE 1956 OLYMPICS , YOU THINK THE MATCH OF THE DAY IN ROUND 1 WILL BE BETWEEN ANNANDALE & GLEBE
 

Once Dead

Bench
Messages
3,140
magpiemax said:
yeah....maybe your correct and maybe i am sad
but not half as sad as people who continue to get on this forum
and bring up issues that have been loitering around since the JV's inception back in 1999. i mean all jokes aside how many times has tugger posted something bad regarding the JV? and me and my family laugh. and think why does this attention seeking fool get on this forum? he should get on the jets forum and stay there!
look my passion has always been western suburbs magpies and i am currently and always will be a voting member,but as i have stated in the past i have decided to move with the times and not deprive my kids from following a footy team that perhaps one day may even be a success.
so my friend if that makes me a sad person "so be it." :(

I was just referring to the whole remembering posts thing....that doesn't get anyone anywhere and is a sad waste of time, i change my mind all the time....we all do.....i wasn't meaning to insult your motivation behind supporting the club.....not at all.....don't take it that way....because i respect that.....and i was just referring to something else......
 

MAFIA

Juniors
Messages
106
ATTENTION ATTENTION CALLING ALL WESTERN SUBURBS AND BALMAIN SUPPORTERS....... THESE 2 GREAT FOUNDATION CLUBS THAT NOW FORM THE GREAT JV IN WESTS TIGERS, THEY WILL NEVER EVER EVER BE
STAND ALONE CLUBS AGAIN, NOW THE SOONER YOU ALL GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE. GET OVER IT SUPPORT THE WESTS TIGERS OR PISS OFF AND SUPPORT SOMEONE ELSE.

FROM A DIEHARD MAGPIE SUPPORTER WHO HAS ACCEPTED THIS AND NOW SUPPORTS THE MIGHTY WESTS TIGERS 500%.............


IM MAFIA
 
Messages
42,652
MAFIA said:
ATTENTION ATTENTION CALLING ALL WESTERN SUBURBS AND BALMAIN SUPPORTERS....... THESE 2 GREAT FOUNDATION CLUBS THAT NOW FORM THE GREAT JV IN WESTS TIGERS, THEY WILL NEVER EVER EVER BE
STAND ALONE CLUBS AGAIN, NOW THE SOONER YOU ALL GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEADS THE BETTER OFF WE WILL BE. GET OVER IT SUPPORT THE WESTS TIGERS OR PISS OFF AND SUPPORT SOMEONE ELSE.

FROM A DIEHARD MAGPIE SUPPORTER WHO HAS ACCEPTED THIS AND NOW SUPPORTS THE MIGHTY WESTS TIGERS 500%.............


IM MAFIA


Spot on.

There's no need to denigrate the JV because you supported either Wests or Balmain pre-JV. The JV was/is a necessary evil so to speak. The alternative was to go the way of the Dodo. That's not an alternative, it's a cop out.

There's still a Balmain side in PL and a Wests side in PL. If you want to follow the pre-JV club, just take your spot in the stand next to the Newtown and Norths supporters and you can talk about the "old days" until your teeth drop out.

I have no love for Balmain but thanks to them I still have a team to follow in the NRL. Kudos to them.
 

B_Tiger

Juniors
Messages
435
Lochie said:
If its the first, read the name again. Its Phil Bailey. Phil Bailey. A name synonomous with being over rated. I mean, would you really want him? He's Kimmorley in another skin.

It doesn't matter who said it. I miss people talking about the Balmain tigers. I miss supporting that club. Wests tigers isn't anything like Balmain. What keeps me a wests tigers supportewr is watching juniors come through and play first grade. What I liked about supporting Balmain can't be found in the wests tigers. Sometimes you realise how hollow supporting a merged club is. I mean, I loved the Balmain tigers. It just isn't that way with the wests tigers. I don't enjoy supporting them. I don't mind a lack of success. I've put up with terrible teams for very long times, I just mind that there aren't characteristics in the wests tigers that I like. They feel like a generic side with no heart (only made to look good by scumbag clubs like the bulldogs and roosters). Balmain, for all it's faults, had a great character. I never met a person who disliked Balmain because Balmain were a respectable and proud Rugby League side. But, now what are we? We're just a club that sold out. What do you like about the wests tigers spirit? I don't think it even exists. I mean, doesn't it cut everyone up when you see the shirt that says "Wests Tigers, established 2000". I mean, that is f**king ignoring more then 180 years of history! And how about when they give the record between south sydney and Manly as being like 50 wins to 38 wins. And for the wests tigers the match-ups don't have more then ten matches against any team. I mean, that is pathetic. We have gone from being a historic club to one that has only existed for three f**king years. And you are all satisfied with that?

I'm not blaming you people for supporting the club. I mean, I support the wests tigers. But, none of you think it is a bit hollow? None of you care that our club has no history? I'm complaining that other clubs that have less right to be in the competition are there while we are putting up with some phony substitute because we're used to the league kicking us around. Stuff that. Balmain and wests deserve to be in the NRL competition. It is clubs like ours that made rugby League. And then these imposters come in and tell us all to settle for a f**king merger and we all do. We all just accept it. But, why should we? Why not re-arrange the NRL rather then simply getting rid of the poor clubs? Make it equal wealth like in the nFL. The NFL pays clubs something like $87 million a year from the profits created by all clubs. That system needs to be instituted here. f**k what the roosters, broncos and bulldogs clubs think, the smaller clubs need to be taken care of. Historic clubs should not ever be kicked out. That is f**king dumb and it has destroyed Rugby League.

What these dumb arses don't see is that a sports greatest asset is it's history. The NRL is f**king dumb becuase it has gotten rid of so many historic teams and values. Thus, we are supporting a new competition rather then one that has lasted since 1908. Therefore, what do we have over a national rugby comp that starts up? Nothing.

I just don't think the NRL is good enough. I don't think the wests tigers are good enough. None of you can claim wests tigers as being a better option then either Balmain or wests. It isn't what we grew up supporting, it isn't what we love. It's just what we put up with.
 

Once Dead

Bench
Messages
3,140
B_Tiger said:
excuse the length of that post, I got carried away.

Dude, thats the truth that a lot of fans just never tell and keep bottle up inside......i know its exactly the same for me....i only get fired up around once a year.......i was reading a 1998 season review of all the Balmain games - it sent shivers down my spine....i could remember things from every game i went to...and i could remember all the moments, the losses, the wins.....it was something that made me realise, Balmain isn't here anymore and all those good memories are gone.....but the fact is.....we had the good cards.....but we got bluffed and played the wrong cards......and now, League is a business....look at all the crappy designs that are called jerseys....look at the sackings of coaches etc......its all for the dollar....not footy
 

B_Tiger

Juniors
Messages
435
I agree, it's looking at Balmain highlights that really gets me anxious about the wests tigers. Just remembering how good that felt to be a balmain tigers supporter going to Leichhardt oval. It genuinly didn't matter how they were performing or who it was against. No team or sport can ever equal that. It was just a terrible thing to lose.
 

Tigerpete

Juniors
Messages
1,955
Guys i would love to see Balmain Tigers back in their original form playing in the premier comp, geez there's probably some old bloke who would love to Annandale back in as well, Sadly though, it wont happen, you guys need to get over it, i've become accustomed to wacthing Balmain play in PL games now and i can live with it. We need to move forward as one club, there shouldnt be so much of a west vs balmian issue.
 

Slugs

Guest
Messages
876
Tigerpete said:
Guys i would love to see Balmain Tigers back in their original form playing in the premier comp, geez there's probably some old bloke who would love to Annandale back in as well, Sadly though, it wont happen, you guys need to get over it, i've become accustomed to wacthing Balmain play in PL games now and i can live with it. We need to move forward as one club, there shouldnt be so much of a west vs balmian issue.


For once I agree with you PussyPete

Merged Scum has a better ring to it anyway :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

magpiemax

Juniors
Messages
1,236
Tigerpete said:
Guys i would love to see Balmain Tigers back in their original form playing in the premier comp, geez there's probably some old bloke who would love to Annandale back in as well, Sadly though, it wont happen, you guys need to get over it, i've become accustomed to wacthing Balmain play in PL games now and i can live with it. We need to move forward as one club, there shouldnt be so much of a west vs balmian issue.
pete,i dont think the issue here is a west V balmain thing and i certainly understand what b_tiger is trying to say here.
cause i too feel sad when driving past lidcombe oval and thinking about the times i would walk with my older brother from lidcombe railway into the ground with one ear cocked to the radio listening to team changes and the other ear trying to concentrate crossing olympic drive without getting run over.
so i know and sympathise with all that feel this way(except tugger).but the reality is its not my fault that both western suburbs and balmain tigers
had the most f***ed administration in league history and had no idea how to run a football club.
but thats the way it goes and sometimes its not all good,so make the most of life and enjoy what you got.
most of you would probably know that i drive cabs for a living and meet about 180 people a week so as one would imagine i meet everyone from politicians to prostitutes and sometimes at the same time.
and i tell you something life is not all as bad as you think.for example yesterday i picked up a man at the airport who is making enquiries at a particular hospital in sydney trying to find a cure for his 15 year old son who is dying. do you think he gives a sh*t about wests or balmain??
 

B_Tiger

Juniors
Messages
435
magpiemax said:
Tigerpete said:
Guys i would love to see Balmain Tigers back in their original form playing in the premier comp, geez there's probably some old bloke who would love to Annandale back in as well, Sadly though, it wont happen, you guys need to get over it, i've become accustomed to wacthing Balmain play in PL games now and i can live with it. We need to move forward as one club, there shouldnt be so much of a west vs balmian issue.
pete,i dont think the issue here is a west V balmain thing and i certainly understand what b_tiger is trying to say here.
cause i too feel sad when driving past lidcombe oval and thinking about the times i would walk with my older brother from lidcombe railway into the ground with one ear cocked to the radio listening to team changes and the other ear trying to concentrate crossing olympic drive without getting run over.
so i know and sympathise with all that feel this way(except tugger).but the reality is its not my fault that both western suburbs and balmain tigers
had the most f***ed administration in league history and had no idea how to run a football club.
but thats the way it goes and sometimes its not all good,so make the most of life and enjoy what you got.
most of you would probably know that i drive cabs for a living and meet about 180 people a week so as one would imagine i meet everyone from politicians to prostitutes and sometimes at the same time.
and i tell you something life is not all as bad as you think.for example yesterday i picked up a man at the airport who is making enquiries at a particular hospital in sydney trying to find a cure for his 15 year old son who is dying. do you think he gives a sh*t about wests or balmain??

This isn't about solving the world's woes. Of course there are far greater concerns in the world. But why do we watch those piece of shit renovation shows when they doesn't matter? Why do we bother wasting time on here? Why do we buy trendy clothes to fit in? None of that matters as much as real issues in the world. However, that doesn't change the fact that they are important. Sure, if you want to say make the most of it because we've got it pretty bloody good then you have a legitimate argument. My point is though that most of us on here support the wests tigers simply because it is the best available option. It isn't anywhere near as good as the real thing, but it's all we've got. But, why should we settle for that? Do any of your wests tigers memories compare in anyway to the memories you have of your old club? They just can't.

Success for the wests tigers on the field would surely bring in more support and help in developing a culture and tradition around the club. It won't however be anywhere near as enjoyable as watching our own clubs succeed. It will be creating a new culture and tradition rather then continuing the tradition of the clubs we really support. Is that good enough? I know I'd be happy if the Wests tigers won a grand final. Hell, I'd be over the moon. There is no way though that it could come anywhere near comparison to a Balmain GF victory. That's the same with everything to do with the Wests tigers, it just isn't anywhere near as good as Balmain.
 

King Tigerman

Juniors
Messages
753
magpiemax this is a wests v balmain thing & its got to stop why do you think the club has no success on the field too much infighting but there are people who dont want to support progress & imho they should piss off & follow the bulldogs

WESTS TIGERS OR NOTHING
 

Once Dead

Bench
Messages
3,140
King Tigerman said:
magpiemax this is a wests v balmain thing & its got to stop why do you think the club has no success on the field too much infighting but there are people who dont want to support progress & imho they should piss off & follow the bulldogs

WESTS TIGERS OR NOTHING

Sorry King......but it isn't a Wests Tigers: Balmain Vs Wests issue.....just read B's posts.....he's just expressing what even you must feel sometimes......deep down even the immortal King Tigerman wishes that he could have all those times back......

The club has no success on field because the players haven't been good enough..........Wests Tigers wasn't progress....it was damage control - to save the last shred of identity that they had in the league.....
 

innsaneink

Referee
Messages
29,368
My point is though that most of us on here support the wests tigers simply because it is the best available option. It isn't anywhere near as good as the real thing, but it's all we've got. But, why should we settle for that? Do any of your wests tigers memories compare in anyway to the memories you have of your old club? They just can't.

Why do I settle for it? Because its all there is. Its either WT's or nothin...no souths eels or anyone else....THAT is whats impossible.This JV is a descendant of two clubs 1 of which I was as passionate about as you are still about balmain. Maybe I'm not as passionate anymore as I once was....things happen in life and you realise sometimes you should just be grateful for what you've got. And other things happen in life that put important things in perspective. This will one day seem like a mozzie bite to you...believe me.
When you get like this think of the newtown fans.
 

Gobbso

Juniors
Messages
732
I completely agree and understand with everything you have said Noah. And as Impellitteri said, this isn't a Balmain Vs. Western Suburbs thing, its an expression of heartache and pain that all supporters both Tigers and Magpies must have felt and the ones who are fair dinkum still do feel these emotions! :cry: Hell, i feel them everyday...you wouldn't be normal if you didn't.

Our memories, that is all we have left really, and we must teasure them for as long as we are still breathing. It is quite fair to say that yes...both Football clubs did sell out due to the propaganda used by the NRL. Balmain and Western Suburbs in football terms "fell for the dummy" and let News Ltd. run straight through the gap!

Both clubs had the option of standing alone and fighting, like South Sydney did. Damn it, the Rabbitoh's even pleaded with both clubs to join them, but both clubs turned their back on Souths, crumbled and jumped in the sack together. (We now know that the Magic No. of 14 teams and the Criteria was a load of crap, and was illegal thanks the Souths court case, which made both Football club administrations look like faaarken idiots! :roll: )

But sadly, this is the life both the Balmain Tigers and Western Suburbs Magpies decided to take Together, brothers in arms, and so be it. What's done is done. Sure it might not be the best, sure it might not compare to the good old glory days of Balmain and the Magpies, but there's one thing i will always be grateful for, still having a Western Suburbs Magpies presence still alive in Rugby League through the Joint-Venture.

When i think of Newtown and North Sydney, i feel for them and their long suffering supporters, who sadly have no club to follow in the Elite Rugby League competition. At least with the Joint-Venture both Balmain and the Magpies will forever live on through the partnership that has seen the establishment of Wests Tigers.

Yes i know, its not the same...And i of all people, would sell my first born son to get my Magpies back (Hmmm ok, maybe i wouldn't go that far :lol: :lol: :lol: ) But you get the picture. Change is Inevitable, unavoidable, it can not be stopped. Sadly Balmain and Western Suburbs became a victim of such change and took the path of changing for the long-term future. Maybe it was unexpected, but so many things in life are.

Just say, after the '99 season, 5 years down the track, both Balmain and the Magpies hit a financial crisis, and unfortunately there was no way both clubs could survive another season. The only way both could remain apart of Rugby League was to form a Joint-Venture or disappear from the game forever? Would we be saying the same thing now? Probably not, due to different circumstances. The NRL fooled both clubs and they won. There's not much we as fans can do about it now. Simple...its a war that could never be won.

But just look at the dynamics of Rugby League now. News Ltd has a stake in 4 NRL clubs. the Warriors no longer have a history since being bought by Mick and Eric Watson at the end of the 2000 season. And now Manly has sold 50% of its football club to a sport Management-Marketing firm for $10 million. To me as a supporter looking at all that, that's not something to be proud of. All clubs have sold their soul in my honest opinion. All clubs that joined Super League are a disgrace in my eyes and always will be...

The above represents the ever changing dynamics of not just Rugby League but the sporting world in general. Yes it is business orientated, but that's the way it NOW operates. Joint-Ventures are going to prominent in sport for a long time to come. I'm just grateful, i'm supporting one that's equal, fair and works. And more importantly a Joint-Venture that will forever continue to represent my beloved Western Suburbs Magpies for as long as it shall exist.
 

madunit

Super Moderator
Staff member
Messages
62,358
It's discussions like this which force clubs to end up in the same shit as the Northern Eagles. We have been a Joint Venture for 4 f**king years and people are still here crying about Balmain vs Wests. Balmain and Wests are PL teams. Wests Tigers are our main team. If you don't like the joint venture, than go and support your club in PL.

Why can't everyone get with the time and move on. 4 years of bitching is far too much. I love Balmain, but I love Wests Tigers just as much. The JV is made up of 2 very proud foundation clubs, with proud supporters.

I put a question to the Magpies supporters, would rather support a team which is actually competing with other teams as we have thus far, and support a team whose future is looking a lot better already? Or would you prefer watching your beloved Magpies cop flogging week in and week out as they did in their last 2 seasons before the JV? The Balmain team wasn't doing much better either, but I can tell you, I much happier now when we lose games by less than 10 points, compared to being flogged by 40 odd points, which is what would be happening if the teams had've stayed seperate.

And what would've happened to you, if the JV didn't go ahead and Wests and/or Balmain were kicked out of the comp? Who would you be supporting then?

Just stop bitching like mediocre teenage girls with their rags, and start acting like the proud supporters you once were. This team will not move forward while shit like this continues.
 

King Tigerman

Juniors
Messages
753
madunit youre right 4 years of bitching is far too long even 3 months of bitching is long enough either people are with us or against us if youre with us good on ya if youre against us piss off & support the dogs


also gobbs even though your plan of selling your 1st born isnt feasible . also as you were saying balmain & wests would both be dead if they stayed alone of course they would i dont knwo where & how both sies would get the extra $5 million needed per year to run a football side especially seeing tigers leagues club is hanging on by a thread & wests campbelltown dont know they sponsor a football club

even look at souths how long do you think it will be till theyre crying poor & get russell crowe to buy 1/2 the club
 

magpiemax

Juniors
Messages
1,236
King Tigerman said:
magpiemax this is a wests v balmain thing & its got to stop why do you think the club has no success on the field too much infighting but there are people who dont want to support progress & imho they should piss off & follow the bulldogs

WESTS TIGERS OR NOTHING
kingy,why are you telling me this for??have you been reading my post properly??
all im stating is that we need to move forward.but people are obviously still disgruntled re:the JV.
 

Latest posts

Top