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beave

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I personally prefer stadiums that are over 70k when full and don't require a plane rid to get to.

I personally prefer to not need the use of a telescope when watching a live game.......... but hey, that's just me.
 

BDGS

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I dunno, that prelim with Parra vs the Dogs was pretty awesome.

ahh it was, the absolute best game ever would be a Canterbury vs Parra grand final at ANZ.

Ahhh that would be the best Rugby League experience of all time, especially when the dogs lift the trophy.
 

smithie

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Punting agency a sure-fire bet to be part of bid
Chris Barrett
February 5, 2011

SPORTS gambling firm Centrebet hopes to revolutionise the relationship between betting agencies and sport by becoming a part-owner of a new NRL club in Brisbane.

The consortium behind the Brisbane bid - led by Craig Davison, a prominent member of the Thoroughbreds group of Queensland businessmen who support the Broncos - want Centrebet to come on board not only as a sponsor but as a major partner in the club if they gain an NRL licence. The vision for a second Brisbane team, the plans for which were revealed by the Herald last week, is to become ''the Manchester United of rugby league''.

Neil Evans, a former television journalist who is Centrebet's public relations and media director, was approached before Christmas about the company joining the bid team and then met Davison and his colleagues Nicholas Livermore and Bill Rae at a gathering at a Southport hotel on the Magic Millions race day, January 15.

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A financial commitment has yet to be made but Evans is likely to be at the table in Sydney on Monday when Davison, Livermore and Rae meet NRL chief executive David Gallop to discuss expansion, and an official partnership could be in place as soon as next week.

Among several proposals put to the consortium by Evans as part of Centrebet's part-ownership is the installation of a private betting lounge at the new franchise's leagues club, tipped to be at Davies Park in Brisbane's West End if they get the green light as an expansion club.

''The plan is to be a major partner in a new rugby league club,'' Evans said. ''Potentially, it will be the biggest rugby league derby the planet has ever seen.

''We're still working through it but obviously I'm confident we'll reach an agreement. We want to revolutionise the relationship between a betting partner and a major rugby league club.''

The alliance between the three businessmen behind the Brisbane bid and Centrebet is the most significant development in a recent wave of links between gambling agencies and the NRL. Centrebet, a publicly listed company in which veteran bookmaker Con Kafataris is the main shareholder, has been the primary player, forming a landmark naming-rights stadium deal with Penrith and a jersey association with Manly.

Meanwhile, South Sydney last week signed a three-year corporate partnership with Star City, placing the casino's logo on the front of the Rabbitohs' jumper, and Melbourne have named Crown Casino as their new main sponsor.

The move by Centrebet towards club ownership is evidence of the boom in rugby league betting, Evans said. ''What we've said and done in rugby league in the last couple of years has been reflected in our turnover,'' he said. ''Rugby league betting is massive. The other attraction is Queensland - it is obviously massive in league and probably about to be the epicentre. It might be the catalyst for [moving] the grand final up there one day. We want this to be the Manchester United of rugby league.''

Davison, who with other Thoroughbreds John Geaney and Tony Scanlon collectively own 25 per cent of the Broncos, has already spoken to Queensland Reds and Wallabies star Quade Cooper about making a switch of codes. They would play at Suncorp Stadium on alternate weekends to the Broncos.

Evans has been told that a decision on the introduction of two new NRL clubs could be made by October, with teams entering the competition in 2013 or 2014. However, it will be up to a new eight-member independent commission, which will run the game, to open the official tendering process and decide when, or whether, the NRL needs a 17th and 18th team.

The other six aspirants to be added to the competition are the Central Coast, Central Queensland, Ipswich, Perth, Wellington and Papua New Guinea.

The NRL in 2009 relaxed its stance on clubs having sponsorship agreements with betting companies and has its own deal with TAB Sportsbet for which it receives a 5 per cent cut of profit. The governing body has integrity agreements in place with all gambling agencies involved in the game, a policy it credits with being able to kickstart an investigation into irregular punting activity in the match between North Queensland and Canterbury last August.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/rug...ire-bet-to-be-part-of-bid-20110204-1agu1.html
 

smithie

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No doubt now that this bid is the real deal. The association with centrebet will get some people whingeing about league links with gambling but for mine they are just another legitimate company willing to invest in a game they see as going places fast. I'm liking this bid more and more. Other bids won't.

Couldn't agree more. It really has turned into a three-horse race between Brisbane II, Perth and Central Coast. Can't wait to buy my Brisbane II membership, hopefully.
 
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hmm ownership of a club by a betting company, no potential for bad news there!

For a new team, sponsorships are important but I don't think this is the way to go about it. CQ with QRNational, WAReds with Cash Converters and CCBears with Mortage House. Those are genuine corporations which will add to the game without impacting on it negatively. Now Im not against punting agencies but the sudden surge of agencies getting involved with our game is slightly concerning. I, for one, am not a big punter and whilst I see the occassional fun of the odd punt, these sponsors will be putting their products in our faces every game.

The lack of genuine passion if also a worry. Whilst the W.A. Reds & CCBears have fanatical supporters (you and I for example), the other bids have failed to replicate that sort of fan fare. I thought for a second that maybe the Ipswich Jets had some growing, especially considering how a few posters from here were carrying on about them. However since this Brisbane 2 bid was launched, those same few people seem to have completely deserted the Jets bid.

I know a few things. I know that this Brisbane 2 bid has been all talk and no substance and action (even less then the Jets). Central Queensland, Western Australia & Central Coast have proved their worth for new franchises by the hard work over the last couple of years. W.A. & CC especially seem to be bids for the people. I think some of the richmen behind Brisbane 2 and occassionally CQLD are more concerned about themselves then their actual bids. Too much of it is about "they won't have this or that" instead of "we can offer the game of rugby league this and that". Just my 2 cents.
 

BunniesMan

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jesus f**king christ. Part ownership of an NRL club by a betting agency...am I the only one who sees an issue here? Sponsorship is one thing, ownership is a whole new thing. It's all about perception, perception is reality, and allowing a betting agency to own a club is terrible f**king perception.

Have we learnt nothing from the news ltd conflict of interest? Being part owner of a sporting league and bidding for the rights to that league isn't a good idea. Owning a sporting team when you take bets on that sport isn't a good idea either.
 

AlwaysGreen

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Centrebet isn't just some shady bloke behind the toilets at randwick running a numbers game. They are a major company listed on the Australian Stock Exchange and answerable to government regulations and law. They will face extreme scrutiny if they link to the Brisbane 2 side.
 

AlwaysGreen

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jesus f**king christ. Part ownership of an NRL club by a betting agency...am I the only one who sees an issue here? Sponsorship is one thing, ownership is a whole new thing. It's all about perception, perception is reality, and allowing a betting agency to own a club is terrible f**king perception.

Have we learnt nothing from the news ltd conflict of interest? Being part owner of a sporting league and bidding for the rights to that league isn't a good idea. Owning a sporting team when you take bets on that sport isn't a good idea either.
Almost as bad as ownership by a hollywood actor - the perception there! Hookers, drugs, crime, links to the underworld
The children, won't anyone think of the children!!!!!!!!!
 

BunniesMan

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Almost as bad as ownership by a hollywood actor - the perception there! Hookers, drugs, crime, links to the underworld
The children, won't anyone think of the children!!!!!!!!!
Even if Crowe did any of those things, which he doesn't, it is no where near the same thing. His "day job" has nothing to do with league. No conflict of interest.

As for Centrebet being on the stock exchange etc etc etc. Well just because a business is big and well known doesn't make it immune from wrong doing. Look at Enron or Goldman Sachs.

Look, I'm not saying Centrebet would even consider doing anything dodgy. In fact I'm sure they wouldn't. But imagine if betting on a Brisbane2 game is lopsided in such a way that Brisbane2 winning would lose Centrebet money. Brisbane2 lets in a soft try in the dying minutes to lose the game, Centrebet makes a profit, and all of a sudden all sorts of whispers and rumours hurt our game. And that's just one scenario.

Perception is reality, it's not fair but it's a fact of life. A betting agency owning a sporting team whose games can make or lose that betting agency significant amounts of money is just asking for trouble. Rumours and whispers and innuendo suggesting that sort of thing will be very bad for the game.
 

AlwaysGreen

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As for Centrebet being on the stock exchange etc etc etc. Well just because a business is big and well known doesn't make it immune from wrong doing. Look at Enron or Goldman Sachs. .
I am not a betting man by any stretch and not a defender of betting agencies but there is nothing to suggest that Centrebet has done anything wrong at any time and so associating them with wrongdoing is unjust.
Look, I'm not saying Centrebet would even consider doing anything dodgy. In fact I'm sure they wouldn't. But imagine if betting on a Brisbane2 game is lopsided in such a way that Brisbane2 winning would lose Centrebet money. Brisbane2 lets in a soft try in the dying minutes to lose the game, Centrebet makes a profit, and all of a sudden all sorts of whispers and rumours hurt our game. And that's just one scenario..
Diversification of business interests. The ACCC would be all over them like GI on a cupcake if there was even a hint of wrong doing.
Perception is reality, it's not fair but it's a fact of life. .
Perception is not reality, reality as you see it is your perception of reality. Everyone has a different perception which is their reality.

I think what you mean is that the perception people may have of this deal may be a bad one. That is a reality, but one of many.
 
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