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Bryce Cartwright "allegedly" pays side chick 50k for abortion

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Danish

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There is always 2 sides to every story many non Panther fans saying the same too. If we had any good journo's in this country they would seek both sides and ask about the holes in her story BEFORE reporting.

Even then who cares

Any story whe Cartwright pays cash to avoid having a kid is one where he is a coward and a merkin.

Does him offering $200K or $50k make some sort of difference in your mind?
 

franklin2323

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Just maybe they did, and that's is the story.

What would the other side of the story be?

Maybe why she asked for the $200k. Why she's coming forward now not in Nov when she tried to sell the story? Why if on the pill she felt needed the morning after pill. Why not go to the police if she was being harassed.

Many many questions still to go but hey lets lynch him over part of the facts
 

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Any story whe Cartwright pays cash to avoid having a kid is one where he is a coward and a merkin.

Does him offering $200K or $50k make some sort of difference in your mind?

Plenty of dead beat dads out there. Plenty of single mothers too. She has the right to have the baby as much as he does to not be in the baby's life
 

TheFrog

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there are millionaires in areas like Oatlands, etc. End of the day, it's all Western Sydney.
A million dollars isn't very much money these days. Every second person over 50 you see in the street would be worth over a million these days.
 

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A million dollars isn't very much money these days. Every second person over 50 you see in the street would be worth over a million these days.
The streets of Bennelong, maybe.

As for this story, it's a private matter and no crime has been committed.

Move along people and don't feed the outrage machine.
 

cleary89

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Any story whe Cartwright pays cash to avoid having a kid is one where he is a coward and a merkin.

Does him offering $200K or $50k make some sort of difference in your mind?

How? He has a right to not be in the kids life. Bullshit how a chick can decide to have a kid knowing the father doesnt want it then claim child.support for 18 years.

A million others would have told women "i dont want this baby, if you have it i wont be in its life". Her asking for cash and him paying it somehow makes him a merkin?
 

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Plenty of dead beat dads out there. Plenty of single mothers too. She has the right to have the baby as much as he does to not be in the baby's life

Sure. He can abandon his kid as much as the next f**kwit bloke.

Just means he is joining a long list of grade A f**kwits
 

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How? He has a right to not be in the kids life. Bullshit how a chick can decide to have a kid knowing the father doesnt want it then claim child.support for 18 years.

A million others would have told women "i dont want this baby, if you have it i wont be in its life". Her asking for cash and him paying it somehow makes him a merkin?

I don't see what the unfair nature of a guy not being able to force a woman to abort a baby any more than it's unfair that a woman can't force her husband to get a vacectomy.

Yes, him deciding throwing money at the problem via his dads mate makes him a merkin. He could choose to simply man up and support the kid instead
 

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Abortion is different to a vasectomy and surely you can see that?

Having a child should be a decision between two people. Or at the very least the mums decision knowing the situation. Banging a chick without a condom doesnt mean you want to raise a child with her.

He didnt decide to throw money at it, she asked for 200k. Ive stuck my dick in crazy before, cutting contact is the best thing you can do. Him getting someone else to deal with her is on par with him going to his family to tell them about it.
 

cleary89

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Sure. He can abandon his kid as much as the next f**kwit bloke.

Just means he is joining a long list of grade A f**kwits

I dunno, i get why a kid would hate a dad who didnt stick around but if the bloke said from the start he didnt want the kid and wouldnt help to raise it then thats on the mum for choosing that.
 

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I dunno, i get why a kid would hate a dad who didnt stick around but if the bloke said from the start he didnt want the kid and wouldnt help to raise it then thats on the mum for choosing that.


The law thankfully doesn't agree with you
 

Danish

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Abortion is different to a vasectomy and surely you can see that?

Having a child should be a decision between two people. Or at the very least the mums decision knowing the situation. Banging a chick without a condom doesnt mean you want to raise a child with her.

He didnt decide to throw money at it, she asked for 200k. Ive stuck my dick in crazy before, cutting contact is the best thing you can do. Him getting someone else to deal with her is on par with him going to his family to tell them about it.

I don't see the problem with her going to his parents. I know if I knocked a girl up and acted like a merkin in Cartwright fashion, my parents would want to know about it. For a start they'd both agree wholeheartedly to be involved in the kids life, regardless of whatever type of selfish garbage I was going on about.

If you don't want to risk having a kid, bag up. It's as simple as that. If you don't, you know the consequences
 

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I don't see the problem with her going to his parents. I know if I knocked a girl up and acted like a merkin in Cartwright fashion, my parents would want to know about it. For a start they'd both agree wholeheartedly to be involved in the kids life, regardless of whatever type of selfish garbage I was going on about.

If you don't want to risk having a kid, bag up. It's as simple as that. If you don't, you know the consequences
Condoms aren't 100% either mate.
Go be catholic if you want to avoid it completely.
 
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Real shame that a life has been destroyed by money/selfishness ... if the reports are true I reckon both are dead set drop kicks...
 

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OK. Right off the bat. The "reporting" of this has been out and out deplorable and I am in no way surprised that it appears to be 2 media agencies in particular leading the witch hunt and stoking the fires of outrage.

This is a personal matter and should have been between the mother and the father but seeing as it is out there in the ether I'll put my own 2 cents in on this.

If Cartwright didn't want to be at the birth, as far as I am concerned that is his right.

If he does not want to be involved in the raising of the child in so far as being physically present in the child's life then that is his right as well.

“Lou made it very clear to me that if I kept the baby I could expect only minimal support from Bryce."

As far as his financial obligations a la child support, then he would have to have met them just like any other absent father would. Now, I don't know what sort of coin Bryce is getting paid by the Panthers and I am not entirely sure how child support works in terms of what percentage he would have to contribute but if he's only giving the bare minimum then that's a bit shit.

Bringing in the intermediary to broker the deal? Well, as far as I'm concerned that just shows what kind of bloke he is as far as not wanting to take responsibility for his actions.

As for the deal itself; he payed her 50 large to have an abortion?

In my opinion that makes his a f**king shit human being. I am 100% pro-choice and he shouldn't be using his position to pressure the woman in to anything.

Some might suggest that because I do not have a uterus that I am not allowed to have an opinion on this but f**k them.

It is entirely up to a woman what she does with her own body as far as pregnancy goes. You can get in to it with me as much as you would like about the rights of the child as well but for the here and now my position for any woman is that they should have control over what they do with their bodies.

Which is why statements such as the following REALLY BOIL MY PISS!

The 24-year-old former girlfriend of Penrith Panthers second-rower Bryce Cartwright, who has asked to be identified only as Miss X, had the procedure in November because she felt Cartwright and club intermediary Lou Zivanovic left her no other choice.

I felt I had no other option than to get rid of the baby, the pressure was relentless,” she said. “I was bullied by Bryce and Lou. They showed no compassion towards the baby and me.”

“I don’t believe in abortion, that’s what I have said the whole time. I told Bryce and then Lou again and again that I understood his feelings, but that we had to find some way to meet in the middle because even though he didn’t want a baby, I didn’t want to get rid of the baby.

She also wrote a letter of complaint to the club but “have yet to hear back”.

Seeing as I've already talked about PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.... what about hers?!?!?!?!?!

Guess what, lady? You DID have a choice! And you made it!

“From the start he said he didn’t want to be a father, or to have anything to do with the baby and I respected that and thought I would do it alone,”

If you were willing to be a single mother, then more f**king power to you. It says more about you than it does about him.

I understand that taking responsibility for one's own actions is a frightening concept for some people these days but saying she was "pressured" in to having an abortion because she had no choice?

Sorry, I'm not buying that for a second.

I am not a perfect human being. I'm not trying to hector or lecture but FFS this whole thing is practically 2 kids who are not prepared to face the consequences of their actions.

Miss X said she finally agreed to the termination because she lost confidence she would be able to support herself and a child.

Yes, it takes two to tango and there's a screen cap where she talks about him not wrapping his old fella but they are both equally culpable for their shared predicament.

Look, I love busting a nut as much as the next bloke but if you don't want to get pregnant or be a father but still want to enjoy the pleasures on intercourse then take precautions. If you don't think you can do it alone then you have options.

She said she had no desire to hurt Cartwright.

Guess what? You've achieved the exact opposite of your desires.

She has since given the money to charity.

“I was full of regret and wish that I had never taken the money. That’s why I gave it (the money) all away. That was the only blessing that came out of this.”

I'll choose my words very, very carefully here.

I am pretty sure that this woman was reported as being an concessional employee of Channel Seven?

Remind me how much the same network paid the fella who filmed Mitchell Pearce and the dog? 6 figures wasn't it?

It would not surprise me in the least if it came to light that they also paid this woman for her story.


In short, Cartwright is a questionable human, the "reporting" of this, especially by those parasites at Channel 7 has been reprehensible (and has nothing to do with them in the first place) and the woman, while I understand her wanting her anonymity as I imagine she would have a hell of a time if people knew who she was, needs to be held accountable for the choices she's made.
 
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