Bulldogs Lack of Sportmanship

[strong_latte]

I cant believ the pathetic excuses from Dogs fans. Whats this rubbish about Leeds playing 5 trials? GOOD ON THEM...unlike your rabble they prepared. If The Dogs prepared, or cared for that matter, they would have done an Easts, played a couple of trials and flogged Leeds. But you were outplayed.

Done an Easts?

Didn't Easts choke? Didn't they lose the 2004 Telstra Premiership Grand Final? Didn't they get beaten by *gasp* THE BULLDOGS?

They did, but they also went and flogged St Helens 38-0 in the 2003 WCC after getting the sh*ts with pommy morons trying to say their dominance in the WCC means the ESL is better quality than the NRL! Get it?

St Helens are a very stange team. One week they will batter a team, eg they beat Leeds by 50+ in May last year, and then a few months later will loose to the same team by 70 points (against Leeds last July/August time).
They are hot and cold personified.

Thats an awfuly convenient way of accounting for the only team in years in the NRL that has treated the WCC like a high states NRL final match!

 

[strong_latte]

Over the last 30 years it is the ESL clubs who have proved the better in the WCC.

How much interest is generated over the WCC in Australia though? Virtually none! There's no hype in the press, barely a word about it in the papers ever after the results are in and public support is virtually nil! The WCC is just there to make the poms feel better about forgetting what it's like to win an ashes series ;-) . You'd think with 4 less teams to fill in their comp that their champs would have had way more deapth than the dogs going in to the match, but even a dogs side that had no Sherwin, Mason, O'Meley, Price and a whole cast of other players that made them so strong in 2004 they still managed to get within just under a converted try of leeds.

It doesn't get mentioned much in Aus cos you rarely win. Country's press often doesn't mention stuff that they are bad at, instead focusing on what they are good at. As Gould says, it makes the NRL look like an inferior comp which is bad for business. Hiding it and playing it down is the best way to protect business interests.

Internationaly Rugby League doesn't get much attention here either mate, and we've been winning that for longer than most people can remember! It's international union, something we have nothing close to a firm domination of, that generates interest... There goes that theory!

 

[Charge]

I cant believ the pathetic excuses from Dogs fans. Whats this rubbish about Leeds playing 5 trials? GOOD ON THEM...unlike your rabble they prepared. If The Dogs prepared, or cared for that matter, they would have done an Easts, played a couple of trials and flogged Leeds. But you were outplayed.

Done an Easts?

Didn't Easts choke? Didn't they lose the 2004 Telstra Premiership Grand Final? Didn't they get beaten by *gasp* THE BULLDOGS?

They did, but they also went and flogged St Helens 38-0 in the 2003 WCC after getting the sh*ts with pommy morons trying to say their dominance in the WCC means the ESL is better quality than the NRL! Get it?

St Helens are a very stange team. One week they will batter a team, eg they beat Leeds by 50+ in May last year, and then a few months later will loose to the same team by 70 points (against Leeds last July/August time).
They are hot and cold personified.

Thats an awfuly convenient way of accounting for the only team in years in the NRL that has treated the WCC like a high states NRL final match!

Actually the Panthers treated the match against Bradford the same way Sidney did, but they lost. I agree that excuses shouldn't be part of it though and the Roosters deserved their title of world champs no matter how good Saints were on the day. What I said about them is still true though, I would have had many a heart attack if I supported them!

 

[Charge]

Over the last 30 years it is the ESL clubs who have proved the better in the WCC.

How much interest is generated over the WCC in Australia though? Virtually none! There's no hype in the press, barely a word about it in the papers ever after the results are in and public support is virtually nil! The WCC is just there to make the poms feel better about forgetting what it's like to win an ashes series ;-) . You'd think with 4 less teams to fill in their comp that their champs would have had way more deapth than the dogs going in to the match, but even a dogs side that had no Sherwin, Mason, O'Meley, Price and a whole cast of other players that made them so strong in 2004 they still managed to get within just under a converted try of leeds.

It doesn't get mentioned much in Aus cos you rarely win. Country's press often doesn't mention stuff that they are bad at, instead focusing on what they are good at. As Gould says, it makes the NRL look like an inferior comp which is bad for business. Hiding it and playing it down is the best way to protect business interests.

Internationaly Rugby League doesn't get much attention here either mate, and we've been winning that for longer than most people can remember! It's international union, something we have nothing close to a firm domination of, that generates interest... There goes that theory!

There is more international Union in the Aus papers cos there are more international matches. When Aus won the Tri-Nations I'm sure it got in the papers, and next year there may be even more since interest grows in comps that are held every year and have a permanent place in the year.

 

[strong_latte]

Over the last 30 years it is the ESL clubs who have proved the better in the WCC.

How much interest is generated over the WCC in Australia though? Virtually none! There's no hype in the press, barely a word about it in the papers ever after the results are in and public support is virtually nil! The WCC is just there to make the poms feel better about forgetting what it's like to win an ashes series ;-) . You'd think with 4 less teams to fill in their comp that their champs would have had way more deapth than the dogs going in to the match, but even a dogs side that had no Sherwin, Mason, O'Meley, Price and a whole cast of other players that made them so strong in 2004 they still managed to get within just under a converted try of leeds.

It doesn't get mentioned much in Aus cos you rarely win. Country's press often doesn't mention stuff that they are bad at, instead focusing on what they are good at. As Gould says, it makes the NRL look like an inferior comp which is bad for business. Hiding it and playing it down is the best way to protect business interests.

Internationaly Rugby League doesn't get much attention here either mate, and we've been winning that for longer than most people can remember! It's international union, something we have nothing close to a firm domination of, that generates interest... There goes that theory!

There is more international Union in the Aus papers cos there are more international matches. When Aus won the Tri-Nations I'm sure it got in the papers, and next year there may be even more since interest grows in comps that are held every year and have a permanent place in the year.

It's not a lack of matches that killing it mate, it's a lack of competition... When NZ came to play Australia in 2003 at the SFS I went and there was probably only a crowd of 6000... a bledisloe cup match will get 80,000

 

[Charge]

Over the last 30 years it is the ESL clubs who have proved the better in the WCC.

How much interest is generated over the WCC in Australia though? Virtually none! There's no hype in the press, barely a word about it in the papers ever after the results are in and public support is virtually nil! The WCC is just there to make the poms feel better about forgetting what it's like to win an ashes series ;-) . You'd think with 4 less teams to fill in their comp that their champs would have had way more deapth than the dogs going in to the match, but even a dogs side that had no Sherwin, Mason, O'Meley, Price and a whole cast of other players that made them so strong in 2004 they still managed to get within just under a converted try of leeds.

It doesn't get mentioned much in Aus cos you rarely win. Country's press often doesn't mention stuff that they are bad at, instead focusing on what they are good at. As Gould says, it makes the NRL look like an inferior comp which is bad for business. Hiding it and playing it down is the best way to protect business interests.

Internationaly Rugby League doesn't get much attention here either mate, and we've been winning that for longer than most people can remember! It's international union, something we have nothing close to a firm domination of, that generates interest... There goes that theory!

There is more international Union in the Aus papers cos there are more international matches. When Aus won the Tri-Nations I'm sure it got in the papers, and next year there may be even more since interest grows in comps that are held every year and have a permanent place in the year.

It's not a lack of matches that killing it mate, it's a lack of competition... When NZ came to play Australia in 2003 at the SFS I went and there was probably only a crowd of 6000... a bledisloe cup match will get 80,000

Sounds like more of a lack of promotion than anything else. Didn't NZ win that match the year before?

Thats one of the reasons why the biggest internationals are over here though, it isn't to give us a chance, it is because our administrators are better at promoting the game and thus it will generate more money.

 

[strong_latte]

Thats one of the reasons why the biggest internationals are over here though, it isn't to give us a chance, it is because our administrators are better at promoting the game and thus it will generate more money.

There used to massive crowds for RL internationals out here when GB were still at our level... But it's been a long time since you've ben able to say that. The last time you came here you got drilled 64-10 and no one really takes you seriously! In fact in Australia most people think the SOO is where the highest level of RL is played! And can you blame them?

 

[Charge]

Thats one of the reasons why the biggest internationals are over here though, it isn't to give us a chance, it is because our administrators are better at promoting the game and thus it will generate more money.

There used to massive crowds for RL internationals out here when GB were still at our level... But it's been a long time since you've ben able to say that. The last time you came here you got drilled 64-10 and no one really takes you seriously! In fact in Australia most people think the SOO is where the highest level of RL is played! And can you blame them?

At the moment I don't blame them, however all the intervied Austalian players and the coach said that the Tri-Nations matches were as intense as SOO. When it becomes a permenant yearly fixture like SOO people may start to think like the players, but it will take time as the Australian admin definately don't want SOO to be devalued. There is a number of people over here who believe that a hidden reason why Aus were trying to abandon the Tri-Nations is that they are afraid of this happening and therefore loosing money.

 

[ucantseeme]

In todays paper, it reports that after the game the Bulldog players were trying to take the gloss off the Leeds victory by saying to the players that they've only beaten a reserve grade team, what sore losers. They took the best team they had over to the UK and got beat. Plain and simple. I think this only emphasises my original point that the Dogs lack sportsmanship. If Wests got beat by Italy you wouldn't hear that type of crap. Just say "congratulations" and move on.

 

[RB30DETT]

ISame thing with the Dogs this year. As Gould said, they hadn't prepared for the match, they hadn't been working on ball skills etc, but rather Fitness. and thats what saw them come home really strong and nearly pinch the game from Leeds.

erm, you do realise this was leeds' first game too?? and the bulldogs had 10 gf players in the team against our very young team???
tony smith's already said IF we win the gf next season he'll be more than happy to take the rhinos down under for the wcc.

wonder what you're excuses would be if we won again.....

That is absolute crap.

You played the London Broncos a week before it.

Leeds as a club had played 5 trials ( academy included )

do you actually know what you're talking about or is someone in the uk feeding you this crap? like i sid before we played hunslet a week before. none of the leeds stars played, it was a run out for the academy lads. a 95% academy team played york a week before that and lost too. about half of leeds first team had a run out on december 26th's annual friendly local match with wakefield trinity.

Kindest sir,

Leeds played a trial game against London Broncos, that is when McGuire got injured

You said that it was their first game, when you know full well it wasnt.

If you opened your eyes, you would see I said the Leeds Club including the academy.


Thats the end of todays lesson, your dismissed.

 

[RB30DETT]

In todays paper, it reports that after the game the Bulldog players were trying to take the gloss off the Leeds victory by saying to the players that they've only beaten a reserve grade team, what sore losers. They took the best team they had over to the UK and got beat. Plain and simple. I think this only emphasises my original point that the Dogs lack sportsmanship. If Wests got beat by Italy you wouldn't hear that type of crap. Just say "congratulations" and move on.

LOL, I can just see SBW going up to a Leeds player and saying that.

What an absolute crock!

 

[Cammo]

In todays paper, it reports that after the game the Bulldog players were trying to take the gloss off the Leeds victory by saying to the players that they've only beaten a reserve grade team, what sore losers. They took the best team they had over to the UK and got beat. Plain and simple. I think this only emphasises my original point that the Dogs lack sportsmanship. If Wests got beat by Italy you wouldn't hear that type of crap. Just say "congratulations" and move on.

Where's the source/link for that?

 

[borat]

http://foxsports.news.com.au/story/0,8659,12172157-23214,00.html

Rhinos accuse Dogs of sour grapes
From Andy Wilson in Leeds
February 7, 2005

THE triumphant Leeds Rhinos have accused NRL premiers Canterbury of sour grapes after the Bulldogs downplayed the home side's World Club Challenge victory.

"They told us we had only beaten a reserve grade side," an irritated Leeds hooker Andrew Dunemann said after the Rhinos' 39-32 win on Saturday (Qld time). "But if they had brought their full team, we still would have won."

Dunemann, the former Cowboys halfback, insisted that the only reason the Bulldogs fought back from trailing 38-12 midway through the second half was because the English champions took their foot off the gas.

The Bulldogs went into the match without a host of regular first graders, including Willie Mason, Mark O'Meley, Andrew Ryan and Brent Sherwin, and never seriously threatened to win the match.

"After the game their players were saying 'you've only beaten a reserve grade side'," said 28-year-old Dunemann. "I said 'that's a bit hard on yourself fellas – I didn't think you were that bad'.

"That did dampen it a bit, but you can only play what's in front of you and I think if they had brought their full team we wouldn't have clocked off like we did in the second half. I think we still would have won.

"But at the end of the day, we won and we're world champions and they're not – so who cares."

Bulldogs football manager Bradley Clyde took the loss more graciously than his team.

"Full credit to Leeds in the first half," said Clyde, who spent an unhappy season with the Rhinos in 2001 before persistent hamstring problems forced him to retire. "We will make no excuses for the fact the Rhinos played very good football."

Clyde said Leeds fullback Richie Mathers and five-eighth Danny McGuire would both make it in the NRL. Mathers, 21, looked especially good in comparison with his opposite number Luke Patten, while McGuire confirmed the good impression he made for Britain in last year's Tri-Nations series when he fooled Hazem El Masri to score a brilliant individual try.

McGuire was voted man of the match by the British media, although several of them were embarrassed by the choice, insisting it should have gone to Bulldogs teenager Sonny Bill Williams for another devastating all-round performance.

The Courier-Mail

 

[borat]

If a Dogs player did say what Dunneman claims then that is truely bad sportsmanship. But I don't know why Dunneman didn't come out and name the culprit. Its one thing to claim something but how about having the balls to name the person if you are for real.

 

[innsaneink]

"They told us we had only beaten a reserve grade side," an irritated Leeds hooker Andrew Dunemann said after the Rhinos' 39-32 win on Saturday (Qld time). "But if they had brought their full team, we still would have won."

Unbelievable. #-o

Thats as childish as some of the stuff that goes on here.

 

[melon....]

I read that the Dogs players were tellig the Poms that they only beat a reserve grade side, and Leeds replied "Dont be so harsh on yourselves lads...you werent that bad!"

LOL.

 

[Iafeta]

Over the last 30 years it is the ESL clubs who have proved the better in the WCC.

How much interest is generated over the WCC in Australia though? Virtually none! There's no hype in the press, barely a word about it in the papers ever after the results are in and public support is virtually nil! The WCC is just there to make the poms feel better about forgetting what it's like to win an ashes series ;-) . You'd think with 4 less teams to fill in their comp that their champs would have had way more deapth than the dogs going in to the match, but even a dogs side that had no Sherwin, Mason, O'Meley, Price and a whole cast of other players that made them so strong in 2004 they still managed to get within just under a converted try of leeds.

It doesn't get mentioned much in Aus cos you rarely win. Country's press often doesn't mention stuff that they are bad at, instead focusing on what they are good at. As Gould says, it makes the NRL look like an inferior comp which is bad for business. Hiding it and playing it down is the best way to protect business interests.

Internationaly Rugby League doesn't get much attention here either mate, and we've been winning that for longer than most people can remember! It's international union, something we have nothing close to a firm domination of, that generates interest... There goes that theory!

There is more international Union in the Aus papers cos there are more international matches. When Aus won the Tri-Nations I'm sure it got in the papers, and next year there may be even more since interest grows in comps that are held every year and have a permanent place in the year.

It's not a lack of matches that killing it mate, it's a lack of competition... When NZ came to play Australia in 2003 at the SFS I went and there was probably only a crowd of 6000... a bledisloe cup match will get 80,000

The crowd was 30 odd thousand actually.

 

[RB30DETT]

So more than 1 player said that they were a "reserve grade side", that is just funny.

Your a real star Dunneman...lol


That is one huge ego for a player who couldnt make it in the NRL.

 

[Raider_69]

I read that the Dogs players were tellig the Poms that they only beat a reserve grade side, and Leeds replied "Dont be so harsh on yourselves lads...you werent that bad!"

LOL.

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thats gold!

 

[nqboy]

Yeah, good comeback, hey?