Burt in 100%

[HevyDevy]

Oh good, we move Hayne to fullback for one week and then move him away again. Great ...

 

[HevyDevy]

:lol:

With the info coming out this week, it is clear Burt wasn't "dropped" at all, and it was all a smoke screen.

I don't knwo about sensible or not, but I just haven't joined in the "Hayne will save us" hysteria... his form is and has been as bad as anyone else in the team this year - worse if you count the fact he hasn't polled a single point in this forum's overall 3,2,1 for matches this year?

I just thought you would avoid lying to support your argument

 

[Twizzle]

so is Reddy injured or is he this weeks scapegoat ?

 

[Suitman]

:lol:


I don't knwo about sensible or not, but I just haven't joined in the "Hayne will save us" hysteria

TBH Bart, I don't know too many people who have claimed that. All most people have said is that he is a better option at Fullback.
Don't let your personal bias cloud the comments at hand. ;-)

Suity

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

TBH Bart, I don't know too many people who have claimed that.

lol, it may not have been explicitly stated like that but it's sure been put out there, in between the lines if nothing else.

 

[bartman]

He was just covering a temporary absence, no more, no less.

Hayne of 2008 - despite his pay packet - is not our saviour. I hope that he comes good and back to his best without distractions in 2009, when if form merits, it is possible for him to earn a spot away from the wing. But it hasn't worked in 19 rounds, so personally I'd be happier if he was back on his recognised presentative position of wing with Reddy in the side. ;-)

But I can't see how Hagan can justify moving him back to the centres after shifting him a few weeks ago, if indeed that is what the coach has in store?

 

[HevyDevy]

lol, it may not have been explicitly stated like that but it's sure been put out there, in between the lines if nothing else.

No it hasn't

 

[bartman]

I just thought you would avoid lying to support your argument

Lying? Sorry, you'll have to be more specific?

 

[Suitman]

All most people have said is that he is a better option at Fullback.


Suity

lol, it may not have been explicitly stated like that but it's sure been put out there, in between the lines if nothing else.

You conveniently left out the rest of my comment. (as above). And I said........"most".

Suity

 

[bartman]

TBH Bart, I don't know too many people who have claimed that. All most people have said is that he is a better option at Fullback.
Don't let your personal bias cloud the comments at hand. ;-)

Suity

Just having a laugh Suity.

It was hysteria on here a few weeks ago ;-) Burt was the scapegoat/reason the team weren't firing... until he dropped and we all picked on someone else.

 

[sooperdooper]

if burt is back into the 1 its a joke....

 

[HevyDevy]

Lying? Sorry, you'll have to be more specific?

Suggesting that anyone said that Hayne was the saviour.

I was one of the main proponents of moving Hayne to fullback but I certainly never proclaimed him to be the saviour. I don't recall anyone else doing so either.

 

[oldmancraigy]

if burt is back into the 1 its a joke....

Surely he will be....

And it'll be geniused...

 

[forward pass]

:lol:

With the info coming out this week, it is clear Burt wasn't "dropped" at all, and it was all a smoke screen.

Bart, the article doesn't actually say he wasn't dropped. It is not very specific. Maybe he was dropped but then couldn't play for Wenty due to a personal matter. We just don't know.

I think you are jumping to conclusions. You may be right, but based on that article I think it is a bit tough to say it was a smokescreen. Maybe if he was picked in 1st grade the personal matter would not have stopped him from playing.

 

[bartman]

Suggesting that anyone said that Hayne was the saviour.

? This one..

I don't knwo about sensible or not, but I just haven't joined in the "Hayne will save us" hysteria...

...where I was talking about my own view, not making claims about anyone else's specific view?

I was one of the main proponents of moving Hayne to fullback but I certainly never proclaimed him to be the saviour. I don't recall anyone else doing so either.

No need to be offended HD, I wasn't calling out you or your view specifically.

Just stating my own, and stating how in retrospect I find it funny that people got excited over Hagan's mid-week selection change, thinking it was because he'd toughened up, because Burt was so bad, or (in the most part) because Hayne had so much potential in the #1.

We're a bunch of desperates, who'll cling onto anything, is more the point I'm making?

 

[Hollywood Jesus]

Considering it was the major topic of discussion here and considering the severity of the heat in the debate, it's not drawing too long of a bow to suggest that the feeling (from some) was that the major change that needed to be made was for Burt to go and Hayne to replace him.

For some reason people just seemed to have it in their mind that this would make a difference. As such, there was indeed a bit of a hint of "Hayne will be our saviour" in the discussion. It was more implicit than explicit, however.

 

[Suitman]

Considering it was the major topic of discussion here and considering the severity of the heat in the debate, it's not drawing too long of a bow to suggest that the feeling (from some) was that the major change that needed to be made was for Burt to go and Hayne to replace him.

For some reason people just seemed to have it in their mind that this would make a difference. As such, there was indeed a bit of a hint of "Hayne will be our saviour" in the discussion. It was more implicit than explicit, however.

Suity

 

[bartman]

Bart, the article doesn't actually say he wasn't dropped. It is not very specific.

You're right. Despite the headlines and carry-on in here, Hagan's only quote in this article
http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/story/0,20797,24031009-5016286,00.html
was "I am considering some changes."

Hence why I'm saying he may not have been dropped at all, but in people's desperation to latch onto any hope - which I termed Hayne-will-save-us hysteria, apparaently controversially ;-) - we are acting like Burt was dropped and is now reinstated?

Maybe he was dropped but then couldn't play for Wenty due to a personal matter. We just don't know.

Maybe.... same goes for any position or idea anyone has. But it seems pretty clear now that Burt's absence last week was not as sinister or exciting as was made out here, and all I'm saying is neither should his reinstatement at #1, if it indeed happens.

 

[bartman]

For some reason people just seemed to have it in their mind that this would make a difference. As such, there was indeed a bit of a hint of "Hayne will be our saviour" in the discussion. It was more implicit than explicit, however.

That's how I remember it HJ. having been taken to task in many threads that week or two for not sharing the same opinion of Hayne at the back, and being compared to ParraPete in terms of not giving into the masses, it seems to me a bit strange of some to say it didn't go on.

 

[fish eel]

I dont think, Barty, that moving Hayne to fullback was seen to be the move that would save us, or tha Hayne would be the saviour by playing fullback, it was more a belief that Burt wasnt playing well, and Hayne's best position would be fullback. Just a wish to see that change made.

I think saying people were claiming Hayne would be a saviour is reaching a bit IMO. In fact, I believe the consensus has been there is NO saviour, in the backline anyway, and our problems lie up front.