Campese : Five years of failure coming up!!!

[CC_Eagle]

He fired regulary during the latter 20 minutes of yesterdays game imo. Made our defence look quite silly a few times.

On another note, Kelly V JWH = Hit of the year.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

:lol::lol: at those bagging Campo. Have a watch of the Raiders game , the times we do something it is because of Campo.
Our forwards on a week to week basis havent aimed up. No use bagging herb either , who handles the ball more more as a 1st receiver. Tongue. The way we are structure confuses Herbert with Tongue interference. Look how good Herb looked against Warriors and Souths. Tongue didnt play in one and was off the bench in the other. no coincidence.

Also Campo's defence sh*ts all over most 5/8 , his defence was good in SOO . Wallace was sh*t in both attack and D , yet he escapes ant scrutinity

Wallace hasn't escaped scrutiny, he was worse than Campese and was pretty lucky to get picked again. Campese IMO has looked flat this season, he hasn't been given much support but his running game isn't anywhere near what it was last year. His short kicking game has always been diamonds or dust. He needs support in the side, but one thing is for sure, Campese and Wallace as a combination were a terrible decision for SOO, neither have consistent kicking games to mount any pressure. Campese is a solid player, but in reality hasn't been great this year but any game which is marginally above average and the media go into a frenzy over him. In the five-eight stakes for NSW, Mullen and Soward have been far more consistent than Campese, but after last season he was always going to be picked in the hope to recapture that form.

Signing him up for 5 years is a huge gamble IMO, he has never shown consistency through his career. The talent is there, without question, but without a good team around him it's hard to judge where he truly is at. Much of Canberra's problems lay around a very inconsistent kicking game making the forward's do more work than would normally be necessary, and it's costing them in the backend of games. Canberra have a huge pack, they should be winning the field position game more often than they are.

 

[nickraider]

He's a very good player in a pretty sh*thouse team. That's about the crux of it. Throw him at 5/8 for the Bulldogs or the Storm and he'd dominate.

Also, Stuart Flanagan has turned out to be the biggest dud signing of the century, which hasn't helped Campese at all.

What he said.

 

[Edwahu]

The cap is going to have to go up a fair bit by the time 5 years are up. Go 5 years and you could be getting a bargain by the back end of a half decent players contract.

 

[CJG 182]

I just don't get the hype.

Yes he is a good player.

However he has played just over 50 games now and less than half of those have been top notch.

He earned an Origin jersey he did not deserve yet and is getting the over rated tag because of this.

That and the way the Raiders fans on here were carrying on like he was the second coming of christ.

 

[Loudstrat]

Knockers. :lol: The best NRL players have proven to be the one clubbers - or the long term clubbers. Not a bad list when you include the likes of Hindy, Lockyer, Ryan, Patten, Cooper, Slater, Tongue etc.

Raiders struggle to sign players. And they lock up their best player last year and a bloke who's got test and origin jumpers. Should they have offered him a 2 year deal and seen the likes of Manly or the Chooks pinch him?

FFS - what do you expect them to do?

 

[Apey]

Five years is just too long imo, would have been better suited to three.

 

[CJG 182]

The problem I have with the 5 year contract is you can bet should he ever consistently reach the heights Raiders fans think he is at, you can bet he'll want to renegotiate for more, however the club won't be able to renegotiate for less if he keeps playing at an average standard.

If they continue to play like reserve graders for the next couple years he may want out like others have before him.

It's just the simple opinion that the current 5 year deal won't stick.

 

[hellteam]

Knockers. :lol: The best NRL players have proven to be the one clubbers - or the long term clubbers. Not a bad list when you include the likes of Hindy, Lockyer, Ryan, Patten, Cooper, Slater, Tongue etc.

Raiders struggle to sign players. And they lock up their best player last year and a bloke who's got test and origin jumpers. Should they have offered him a 2 year deal and seen the likes of Manly or the Chooks pinch him?

FFS - what do you expect them to do?

Ryan -- Parra and Bulldogs... don't you go for Parramatta?
Patten -- Dragons and Bulldogs

 

[Loudstrat]

You reckon a club cannot find a way to cut short a contract they don't want to keep? *cough* Kimmorley *cough* Reynoldson *cough* Finch *cough* Mason *cough*

 

[mongoose]

His form last year is about the equivalent of what Jamie Soward is doing this year.

Nah, Soward is in great form but campese in the back half of 08 was something else. The media jumped all over him because he was tearing teams a new a*hole practically by himself.

 

[zaku]

Guys, actually watch a Raiders game or two.

Campo is busting a gut out there for us, and there are 16 blokes giving him no help.

He's got a halfback who has very questionable skill and a hooker who is very raw. That was supposed to be solved by Stu Flanagan's arrival at the Raiders, but he has struggled with form and fitness.

Yesterday he played behind a pack who got monstered by a smaller opposition. When our pack goes forward, Campese is free to play his natural game. It's the same as any club - if your forwards get smashed, it doesn't matter how good your halves are, they'll do nothing.

There are rumours that we may be looking to sign a proven half for next season (I'm praying it's Mick Monaghan wanting to come home) and that coupled with Flanno hopefully regaining form and fitness will allow Campo to play his natural game. Our forwards will not get belted like that on a regular basis. Yesterday all of them - Shillington, Tilse, Logan, Tom LL, Harrison - all of them were beaten. That is a once in a season performance from them I'm sure.

One X factor which is stifiling him is the coach. A lot of Raiders fans (myself included) did not want Furner as head coach. We all remember the fiasco that was Mal Meninga as our head coach and sadly Furner, club legend and all, is shaping up to be Mal V 2.0. I don't ever see him getting axed though, due to our club being run by the Furner mafia. Best I can hope for is big brother Don Jr. recognising that Furnace is out of his depth and hiring a veteran, skilled coach as a coaching co-ordinator to pull Furner's strings and run the show. I can dream at least.

Well said mate, he is clearly their best player, Trying to do his job with a bunch of dead set toilers around him!!
Let Campese and herbert form their combo, bring in Dugan at full-back. and give those forwards a kick up the a##e!!!

 

[Firey_Dragon]

Knockers. :lol: The best NRL players have proven to be the one clubbers - or the long term clubbers. Not a bad list when you include the likes of Hindy, Lockyer, Ryan, Patten, Cooper, Slater, Tongue etc.

Raiders struggle to sign players. And they lock up their best player last year and a bloke who's got test and origin jumpers. Should they have offered him a 2 year deal and seen the likes of Manly or the Chooks pinch him?

FFS - what do you expect them to do?

Sign a 3 year deal and re-negotiate at the halfway point...

5 years is a VERY long time in footy, and Campese is still yet to prove he can perform on a consistent basis. That's not to say that he won't, but it is still a fairly large gamble

 

[Loudstrat]

What isn't a gamble? Last year Campo showed form and ability not seen in a Raiders junior since Mullins.

If you are a club that doesn't make gambles, you are a club that is filled with 'solid' first graders all on $150k - and not a match winner among them.

 

[Firey_Dragon]

What isn't a gamble? Last year Campo showed form and ability not seen in a Raiders junior since Mullins.

If you are a club that doesn't make gambles, you are a club that is filled with 'solid' first graders all on $150k - and not a match winner among them.

Or you're at a club with no depth, paying overs for players and got no room to move in the cap. ie the Roosters.

Signing any player like Campese to a lucrative 3 year deal is a gamble unto it's own. 5 years has the potential to be monumentally poor mis-management. I'm not saying it will, but for Canberra's sake I hope it pays off, they've had cap issues in the past, this may give them more headaches. If our club had Campese, I'd be concerned over the length and value of the contract at this point, if I had another year to evaluate that performance, then I'd have less concern. In saying that, I really don't understand the logic in 5 year contracts, injury is just one of many issues that can strain a club financially

 

[bluesbreaker]

Terry Campese's the best junior to come through the Raiders system since... Todd Carney. And noone else.

Carney makes Campo look like a hack. I'd offer Carney a 10 year contract (assuming he could pull his head in - which he obviously can't), he's the best half to come out nrl wide in a long, long time.

 

[beave]

I reckon Graham Murray would be a good fit down there as an assistant coach for the Raiders. There are a lot worse people out there you could have as an assistant.

 

[Loudstrat]

Or you're at a club with no depth, paying overs for players and got no room to move in the cap. ie the Roosters.

Signing any player like Campese to a lucrative 3 year deal is a gamble unto it's own. 5 years has the potential to be monumentally poor mis-management. I'm not saying it will, but for Canberra's sake I hope it pays off, they've had cap issues in the past, this may give them more headaches. If our club had Campese, I'd be concerned over the length and value of the contract at this point, if I had another year to evaluate that performance, then I'd have less concern. In saying that, I really don't understand the logic in 5 year contracts, injury is just one of many issues that can strain a club financially

I understand your argument. But lets not bemoan the lack of loyalty in the game and then whinge at this contract - fair?

 

[Cockadoodledoo]

KShould they have offered him a 2 year deal and seen the likes of Manly or the Chooks pinch him?

Exactly, just like Justin Poore :sarcasm:

 

[Hanscholo]

I cant really understand a contract term longer than 2-3 for any player these days. Its just too big a risk. What if the bloke has chronic injury issues over the next 5 years? If it was Johns or Langer I could see why the risk was worth it...but campese?