CC Bears Should take Legal Action

[BunniesMan]

Now that Tinkler is pouring millions upon millions into Newcastle and the region I'd rate the Bears 100/1 to get into the comp when it is expanded.
Can't see that he'd be too keen on fresh competition up the road and anyone who believes this bloke won't have some considerable pull is kidding themselves.
Perth and Brisbane are the odds on favourites.

You'd think a club with Tinkler behind it would support a rivalry. Thanks to the Fatman the Bears aren't a threat to the Knights financially, and the rivalry would be a benefit to both clubs.

 

[Ziggy the God]

I'll re-phrase that;

The NRL didn't want Souffs back in the comp, and the NRL sure as hell don't want another Sydney based team(Norffs).

Yeah, Souffs is the reason the 'Vision' was destroyed.

We could have had the Moscow Vipers playing the Los Angeles Crowns.

League would have taken over the World.

BUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURP

 

[Stagger Lee]

This still pisses me off.

The NRL told Souffs to f**k off, so what do they do? Take the NRL to court.
They LOSE the court case, they still don't get the message and appeal.
They get a judge who happens to be a souffs supporter and win on appeal.
The NRL then says fair enough, we'll let you back in.

We didn't want Souffs back in the comp and we sure as hell don't want Norffs.

FFS :roll:
Sorry Danny boy - and others, time for FACTS


The Facts are News limited won the The High Court Decision. Souths LOST

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/JCULRev/2003/6.html


The NRL allowed South’s back in even though the case was still before the high court. Souths were NOT illegally kicked out. The high court found on a 4 -1 majority that the NRL had the right to exclude them ( and any other team) even on purely subjective grounds.


Or do you know more about law than the high court? :lol:

 

[redvscotty]

You know an organisation isn't as professional as it makes out to be when they allow a Youtube video of some dingbat in a black beanie and sunnies doing a terrible rap / easy listening song about your club to continue to grace the pages of said website.

Florimo should have raged hard at that and had it pulled down immediately, saving the Bears from any further embarrassment.

 

[Spanner in the works]

Best call Erin Brockovich. I'm thinking a class action. The NRL served the Bears supporters a poisoned chalice. Poisoned with their lies. Key witness - Pinocchio.

Why would you want a court case? Shithouse publicity, ostracizing potential fans and very, very expensive. Why put a nail in your own coffin? If you went ahead with it, you may as well change your name to Central Coast Martyrs.

 

[Noa]

If theyre going to sue anyone it should be whoever decided to set up Sydney and Newcastle an hour either side of them

 

[AlwaysGreen]

Court would in my opinion be a bad move. The Central Coast Bears will keep signing members and sponsors. Build out credentials and fan base. That's all we can do.

But before the naysayers have an orgasm, let me remind you that the CCBears recently signed on more sponsors. While you all might have a field day today, rest assured that the bid is going in the right direction. 7000 members, 25000 fans and 50 sponsors can't be wrong.

People like goddo and alwaysgreen have your little victory today. I'll have mine on the weekend when more people pay their hardearned cash to join the bid.

I'm not having a victory of any sort. My view on the subject of expansion is clear, the bears is not my first choice for a team. My argument is not against norths fans putting in the hard yards, it's against the ridiculous propaganda and exaggeration put up by norths fans. If their bid is successful I will congratulate the bears, if unsuccessful I will not be gloating or dancing on their grave.

 

[BDGS]

Get over it you tosser, you have been turkey slapped by reason time and again.

Why not get out and support your local bid, the Ispwich Jets? After all, you don't even live in NSW.

that post has to be against the members guidelines surely!

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Good luck Ronnie...this certainly isn't one for no win-no fee. If I were representing Norths, I know I'd be maintaining the fee structure to charge at per 6min increments or part thereof of work completed. Let's have a look at your points:

1. You talk about promises - do you mean that the NRL and News Ltd instigated non-performance of their "contract", as Norths relied on a promissory statement? Sorry big dog, not all agreements are contracts, and this one is NOT a contract. For it to be a contract, (and hence enforceable by law), it needs what's called contractual consideration (i.e. both parties putting something into the contract exchange).

2. How was the "insolvency call" in 1998 (that's when it was decided) fraudulent? The NRL has the right to grant and revoke licences to whoever it wants within its own competition. I don't know a lot about the Souths case, but it's of my understanding it was very Souths-specific. If that case did set a precedent and gave rise to further action from other clubs, then why didn't they do so back in 2002?

3. Says who? And besides, this rationalisation was to be concluded BY 2000....11yrs ago. So no longer relevant, Ronnie.

Congratulations - you've done one class on Contracts Law at Brookvale TAFE - and now you're lecturing on the subject.

The fact is - the Bears were promised a regional licence meaning they would not be reviewed under the criteria in 1999. the only loophole was that, if any club was considered insolvent at the time, they were out of the picture.

Fact is - with a future at gosford supported by north shore - the Bears were never going to be insolvent. In fact, their future was brighter than most NRL clubs - still is. Yet - magically, a "likely to be insolvent" decision was made literally days before the criteria was to be decided. An absolute crock - which then resulted in a Norths/Manly "JV" whereby Manly got Gosford.

You wouldn't quite understand all of this - but try to think it through.

 

[shaggs]

I think it would be great for the game and continued development/expansion of the NRL if they sue. Hopefully they can do it before the next Tv deal. Hopefully it is for millions and millions of dollars, that the NRL doesnt have. That way the NRl will fold and then the CC Bears can run the game. HQ can be at Killarney Vale.

Seriously, why would you sue the hand that feeds you. Without the NRL the CC Bears would be a figment of someones imagination. What would all of the "members" do then?

 

[Patorick]

Perth and Central Coast for me, but I can certainly see the argument for Brisbane II.

BTW, any tips for the premiership this year Ronny?

 

[Red Bear]

Doesnt get mentioned often, but second qld is not a great move whilst the Titans are still very much in the establishment phase, IMO anyway.

 

[Talons]

Hey Ronny..Come and support "The Mighty Sea Eagles" you know you want to !

 

[Danny-Boy]

Sorry Danny boy - and others, time for FACTS


The Facts are News limited won the The High Court Decision. Souths LOST

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/journals/JCULRev/2003/6.html


The NRL allowed South’s back in even though the case was still before the high court. Souths were NOT illegally kicked out. The high court found on a 4 -1 majority that the NRL had the right to exclude them ( and any other team) even on purely subjective grounds.

For two long years South Sydney, led by former club player, coach and current president and legend George Piggins, waged a war against News Ltd to get justice, the campaign commencing with a march in Sydney City in 1999 of over 85,000 fans from many clubs, followed by a court loss in 2000 and subsequent appeal in 2001 which South Sydney won.

 

[izzo]

LOL@N0rff$, they had a chance for their day in court but chose to roll over and merge with Manly.

New CC team > CC Bears.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

My argument is not against norths fans putting in the hard yards, it's against the ridiculous propaganda and exaggeration put up by norths fans.

It only seems like 'ridiculous propaganda' because the Bears bid is so much better than any of the other ones out there. Apart from the Reds, none of the other bids have even bothered organising a team name, jerseys, sponsors, home grounds or memberships. The Bears have had all of that for ages, and deserve a spot in the NRL.

 

[El Diablo]

The BEARS should be the LAST club to be admitted into the NRL.

f**k off Central Coast.

qft

Perth and Brisbane II

 

[Red&BlackBear]

LOL@N0rff$, they had a chance for their day in court but chose to roll over and merge with Manly.

New CC team > CC Bears.

Thanks for the input, however you could have atleast be informed before doing so.

CCBears >> CC team in regards to sponsors, fanbase, population in represented area, corporate support, junior numbers, infrastructure.. but none of that is important is it?

 

[Rockin Ronny]

It only seems like 'ridiculous propaganda' because the Bears bid is so much better than any of the other ones out there. Apart from the Reds, none of the other bids have even bothered organising a team name, jerseys, sponsors, home grounds or memberships. The Bears have had all of that for ages, and deserve a spot in the NRL.

All true - but this was precisely the position 5 years ago. Gold Coast had nothing (no name, ground, money) but suddenly they get the nod.

I can see the same fraud about to happen all over again.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Hey Ronny..Come and support "The Mighty Sea Eagles" you know you want to !

Look, I've said this before:
I do not have a criminal record; I have an IQ over 10; I have my own teeth; I am well educated.
On these criteria, I do not fit the mould of a Manly supporter.