CC Bears Should take Legal Action

[RHCP]

The best part about his bid is how it's only a North Sydney bid when it suits them. Whenever somebody even begins to say the word 'nine', they distance themselves as far away from Sydney and the Bears as possible.

But in all seriousness, the fact the Central Coast doesn't have a team is an absolute farce. NSW is the heart of rugby league and expansion is secondary to making sure ever man in this great state can stand on a hill and say 'That's my team, the one getting beaten 30-0'. The Central Coast is an isolated area. It takes an hour or less (Did you get that? AN HOUR) to get there from Newcastle, and well if you wanted to go down to Sydney it's simply excruciating. Often it can be upwards of 60 minutes.

The AFL is swiftly encroaching on this great rugby league heartland. There's bucketloads of talent, but they have no pathways. They can't play SG Ball or Harold Matthews, the closest teams are...well they're in the Central Coast, but still. The travel time needed to scout CC talent is just ludicrous, even for Manly or Newcastle. Soon all these players will be lost to the all powerful GWS, and rugby league will lose these beautiful heartland area it never cared about in the first place, giving AFL a knockout blow to the NRL.

So please David Gallop, listen to the people and admit the Central Coast, because the NRL is nothing without them.

 

[applesauce]

Bring on another abortion of a team like the Gold Coast Blaze or better still, establish one in an area where nobody gives two shits about league. We should consolidate our strongholds before venturing into potentially apathetic or hostile markets.

By over-saturating a NSW market leading to the law of diminishing returns...:roll:

 

[SEAT 1A]

It would be great to see Norths back in the comp however, any new club is going to draw from the NRL pie. BNE may be the only club that could survive on it's own.

The Dragons are one of the most followed teams and has a large club behind it. I read an artical on here they made 400,000 last year and they won the comp in 2010 and won the WCC and received millions from governments to upgrade their grounds. It can't get much better than that for a club.

Any profit is a good result however, your not going to win the comp to often, you are going to be running up hill most of the time.

 

[POPEYE]

Stuff Norths, they're buried in the same crypt as Balmain and Newtown. Manly should be influenced to move away from the Brookvale swamp and play out of Gosford. Two clubhouses supplying revenue

with the occasional return to the swamp. Don't need to litter the east coast when the west coast is crying out for a revival.

 

[BDGS]

You have no right to demand anything. I'd like to see the Bears back, don't get me wrong. But its not your right and its not for you to be telling the NRL the right time to expand.

That goes for all bids, not just the Central Coast bid. At least it is only the Central Coast bid fans who are doing this and not the person in charge. Take note Davidson.

 

[Beowulf]

Won't have to take legal action, Craig Davison is doing a great job of ensuring no Brisbane side for a while...he's pissing David Gallop off no end! Reminiscent of Bears last expansion round. History repeats......

 

[Doug2234]

Peter Peters to eat all the pies.

I lol'ed at this...

 

[applesauce]

Won't have to take legal action, Craig Davison is doing a great job of ensuring no Brisbane side for a while...he's pissing David Gallop off no end! Reminiscent of Bears last expansion round. History repeats......

Looking forward to seeing a pissed off Gallop have to read out BNEII to the media after the COMMISSION DECIDES THE TEAMS...:roll:

 

[Frailty]

I still don't understand on what basis that people believe the Bears could sue the NRL.

It's all well and good to say Souths got in, but in the end the decision in favour of Souths was overturned but the NRL committed to keep them in.

They won't do that again.

 

[bottle]

I've always had a soft spot for the Bears readmission as the CC, this thread and the 'Super League' post are regrettable contributions by some of their supporters. Either actions are the last things the game would need.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

I've always had a soft spot for the Bears readmission as the CC, this thread and the 'Super League' post are regrettable contributions by some of their supporters. Either actions are the last things the game would need.

It's simple. the "game" has f**ked us over for 11 years - so legal action would be payback time.

If the Bears get rorted again like we did 5 years ago, then we're gone.

the Beasr were made sacrifical lambs for NRL and News limited who needed to cull team quickly before the criteria. There were 2 big differences in the situations.

Souths were never given a promise or a regional licence. the Bears were.

Souths board combined with members and supporters to fight for reinstatement. The Bears board and management, in a complete shock move to everyone, voted in secret to put the bears into administration as 'likely to be insolvent" - which was complete rubbish. It alos happened just before teh "criteria' decisions were to be made. Conincidence eh?

Clearly there were Bears management who liked the idea of a Norths/Manly powerhouse - BUT members and supporters had vetoed this often in the weeks and months preceding.

It was a rort.

 

[Beowulf]

It's simple. the "game" has f**ked us over for 11 years - so legal action would be payback time.

If the Bears get rorted again like we did 5 years ago, then we're gone.

the Beasr were made sacrifical lambs for NRL and News limited who needed to cull team quickly before the criteria. There were 2 big differences in the situations.

Souths were never given a promise or a regional licence. the Bears were.

Souths board combined with members and supporters to fight for reinstatement. The Bears board and management, in a complete shock move to everyone, voted in secret to put the bears into administration as 'likely to be insolvent" - which was complete rubbish. It alos happened just before teh "criteria' decisions were to be made. Conincidence eh?

Clearly there were Bears management who liked the idea of a Norths/Manly powerhouse - BUT members and supporters had vetoed this often in the weeks and months preceding.

It was a rort.

Don't agree with legal action but think it would make a great book. One would hope there are people in the game with a conscience. Luckily Souths understand. Everything you say re the events of the Bears demise is correct. Amazing that some of the Norths Board ended up on the Manly Board, isn't it???!

 

[Talons]

Possibly part of problem is Bears supporters are taking the rejection of their readmission personally when in truth it's just geographical.

If Manly had gotten the short end of the stick with the Northern Eagles merger, I'd be busting my gut for readmission as the Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles.

Ipswich or Subshine Coast Bears would have been a shoe in IMHO, at least then you would still have had your name and colors. I realise this is not perfect but sometimes we all have to compromise.

 

[Rockin Ronny]

Possibly part of problem is Bears supporters are taking the rejection of their readmission personally when in truth it's just geographical.

If Manly had gotten the short end of the stick with the Northern Eagles merger, I'd be busting my gut for readmission as the Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles.

Ipswich or Subshine Coast Bears would have been a shoe in IMHO, at least then you would still have had your name and colors. I realise this is not perfect but sometimes we all have to compromise.

No - "geographical" is just the latest excuse after:

• Gosford is part of Sydney;
• there's not enough decent players for expansion;
• it doesn't help with Tv rights bidding;
• the world is flat - so it causes an imbalance.

11 years of corruption, cowardice and cronies in rugby league - proppping up genuinely bankrupt clubs whilst defrauding an establishment club.

The Bears have compromised - 11 years in the wilderness - time for someone else to 'compromise".

 

[Frailty]

Who promised the regional licence? When did this occur? Is there still evidence of this?

How and why should the NRL be held responsible for poor decisions from Bears directors?

Bears care only about themselves and not the game. Your attitude demonstrates this perfectly. No side has a 'right' to be in the NRL - I would rather see the NRL thrive than my club try to steal its way in with by suing them.

 

[Spanner in the works]

No - "geographical" is just the latest excuse after:

• Gosford is part of Sydney;
• there's not enough decent players for expansion;
• it doesn't help with Tv rights bidding;
• the world is flat - so it causes an imbalance.

11 years of corruption, cowardice and cronies in rugby league - proppping up genuinely bankrupt clubs whilst defrauding an establishment club.

The Bears have compromised - 11 years in the wilderness - time for someone else to 'compromise".

What a load of bollocks. There is not a club, player or official in the game who will compromise just so a poorly located Bears can get into the competition. Great work trying to ostracise fans. You need our support to get in.

I can tell you right now, as a journalist, that your location does impact on TV rights, and the only thing that matters to broadcasters is reaching the largest audience possible, not some sentimental heartfelt thing that you seem to be relying on. As far as broadcasters are concerned, the Central Coast is not far removed from Sydney, and in 10 years time will be Sydney. It's not personal. It's business.

 

[BuffaloRules]

Possibly part of problem is Bears supporters are taking the rejection of their readmission personally when in truth it's just geographical.

If Manly had gotten the short end of the stick with the Northern Eagles merger, I'd be busting my gut for readmission as the Sunshine Coast Sea Eagles.

Ipswich or Subshine Coast Bears would have been a shoe in IMHO, at least then you would still have had your name and colors. I realise this is not perfect but sometimes we all have to compromise.

Coudnt agree more...

I think the Bears names & colours being associated with a new team from SEQ would be a great compromise... They would still get to play in Sydney at least half a dozen times a year...

The Bears fans obviously think that 100% of nothing is better than 50% of something...

Luckily the IC will be making expansion decisions based on purely businesss reasons and not tyring to right any perceived injustices from 12 years before their time...

 

[Rockin Ronny]

What a load of bollocks. There is not a club, player or official in the game who will compromise just so a poorly located Bears can get into the competition. Great work trying to ostracise fans. You need our support to get in.

I can tell you right now, as a journalist, that your location does impact on TV rights, and the only thing that matters to broadcasters is reaching the largest audience possible, not some sentimental heartfelt thing that you seem to be relying on. As far as broadcasters are concerned, the Central Coast is not far removed from Sydney, and in 10 years time will be Sydney. It's not personal. It's business.

two points;
1. poorly located? The Bears were the only club who agreed to get a regional licence and relocate to gosford thus bring both regions to the NRL. It has always been perfectly located for these purposes. Great work trying to rewrite demographics, you clown.
2. Being a journalist nowadays is not a profession that carries any weight - especially if you work for such quality organisations like News Limited. So - to hear your expertise on broadcasting reach is laughable.

 

[Alan Shore]

Good luck Ronnie...this certainly isn't one for no win-no fee. If I were representing Norths, I know I'd be maintaining the fee structure to charge at per 6min increments or part thereof of work completed. Let's have a look at your points:

1. You talk about promises - do you mean that the NRL and News Ltd instigated non-performance of their "contract", as Norths relied on a promissory statement? Sorry big dog, not all agreements are contracts, and this one is NOT a contract. For it to be a contract, (and hence enforceable by law), it needs what's called contractual consideration (i.e. both parties putting something into the contract exchange).

2. How was the "insolvency call" in 1998 (that's when it was decided) fraudulent? The NRL has the right to grant and revoke licences to whoever it wants within its own competition. I don't know a lot about the Souths case, but it's of my understanding it was very Souths-specific. If that case did set a precedent and gave rise to further action from other clubs, then why didn't they do so back in 2002?

3. Says who? And besides, this rationalisation was to be concluded BY 2000....11yrs ago. So no longer relevant, Ronnie.

Estoppel? Deceit?

 

[applesauce]

What a load of bollocks. There is not a club, player or official in the game who will compromise just so a poorly located Bears can get into the competition. Great work trying to ostracise fans. You need our support to get in.

I can tell you right now, as a journalist, that your location does impact on TV rights, and the only thing that matters to broadcasters is reaching the largest audience possible, not some sentimental heartfelt thing that you seem to be relying on. As far as broadcasters are concerned, the Central Coast is not far removed from Sydney, and in 10 years time will be Sydney. It's not personal. It's business.

Woh woh woh... Slow down there. So your saying that no matter how much "need" an expansion team has - from groundswell support from fans in the area - if doesn't add enough value to the sport there shouldn't be expansion there???

So that's why the AFL put a team in it's biggest heartland, Tasmainia, where 15% of the entire popultation tune into each each on average, making it the biggest heartland state of any sport in this country. Oh wait....:sarcasm: