What's new
The Front Row Forums

Register a free account today to become a member of the world's largest Rugby League discussion forum! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

Central Coast Bears - Stand Aside

Status
Not open for further replies.

adamkungl

Immortal
Messages
42,971
so out of 300,000 people on the central coast, there are 3,923 members which is only, just over one per cent of the population

and only 1,681 for the upper and lower north shore, and other areas

how long have you guys been pushing the bid on the central coast

mmm....when you put it into perspective, it does not look too good

What a rubbish point. That isn't perspective at all. No team has signed up a large percentage of their local population, this may seem crazy but lots of people don't actually give a crap about football.
 

Red&BlackBear

First Grade
Messages
5,621
wow 51% of people in a Sydney paper voted for a NSW team, nice fluff piece!

That's true. The DT is a Sydney based publication but it's still accessible easily online and it is linked with other publications like the Couriermail, Herald Sun etc.

I'm not going to argue that the results wouldn't be different had the poll been originated in the Couriermail instead of the Daily Telegraph. But I can guarantee you, the Central Coast would still have gotten a very strong response from the the public.

You look at what the Central Coast Bears and also the Western Australia Reds have had to do to prove their case for a franchise.;-)
 
Messages
1,695
What a rubbish point. That isn't perspective at all. No team has signed up a large percentage of their local population, this may seem crazy but lots of people don't actually give a crap about football.


and yet the bears supporters here, keep talking about how the people of the central coast and the upper and lower north shore want the bears back.....the figures do not show this
 

adamkungl

Immortal
Messages
42,971
and yet the bears supporters here, keep talking about how the people of the central coast and the upper and lower north shore want the bears back.....the figures do not show this

The figures don't show that an area wants an NRL team, if that's the tactic you want to take. Brisbane have 12000 members out of a city of 2 million...less than 1%. Quick, dump them :roll:
 

BDGS

Bench
Messages
4,102
Wake Bears from hibernation




299768-central-coast-bears-logo.jpg

Source: The Daily Telegraph



RUGBY league fans have spoken. They want NRL expansion in 2013 - and the Central Coast Bears top their bid list.

That's the verdict to come out of The Daily Telegraph's exclusive online survey, with more than 8000 fans issuing an emphatic message to the game's administrators.

Of the votes polled so far, an astonishing 66.9 per cent want expansion, with 62.8 per cent declaring 18 was the magic number of NRL teams.

On top of that, 68.9 per cent voted for expansion to take place in 2013, while 51.4 per cent say the Bears must return to the NRL.

"David Gallop has said to us all along that he will let us know mid-year what our chances are," said Central Coast Bears head of football operations David Fairleigh.

"They have said all along, 'present us with a compelling case' ... and we've got a compelling case."


And here it is.

The heartland

From Sydney to the Central Coast, you can make the trip by car in just over an hour.

So why then has it taken so long to drive home to the game's bosses that this footballing heartland deserves its own team?

It's the one question Fairleigh asks himself every day of his life - and by the looks of our survey results, he's not on his own.

As he said: "The biggest point is what can we bring to the game? How can having an NRL team on the Central Coast add value to the game? And show us how you guys can be sustainable for the next 50, 100 years ... forever?"
HAVE YOUR SAY IN THE NRL FAN SURVEY HERE

But Fairleigh outlined a compelling argument that includes statistics like:

THE Bears have a catchment stretching from Kirribilli to Lake Munmorah, taking in one million people, nearly 20 per cent of NSW's population;

THE bid provides an opportunity to grow the game via re-engagement of the entire northern corridor of Sydney;

ALL up, the region boasts 23 rugby league clubs and more than 7000 junior players;

BUSINESSMAN Ken Sayer from Mortgage House is prepared to bankroll the bid for "whatever it takes";

SAYER is also almost certain to take ownership of the franchise, similar to Nathan Tinkler's plan at the Newcastle Knights; and
THE Bears have just under 5600 financial members and 62 foundation members chipping in $5500 each.

"There is no doubt we are going to be sustainable as a club. There is no grey area about that whatsoever," Fairleigh said. "We've just got to keep the pressure on."

The defence

How can David Gallop make a commitment to expansion in 2013 if the independent commission is not yet up and running?

Only last week Gallop said he would be willing to look at expansion mid-year - but said there were no guarantees.

"As I've said to the various bid teams, they need to have a sustainable model not just for their own district but they need to be bringing something to the table that everyone can benefit from," Gallop told The Daily Telegraph.

"Be it increasing the game's national profile which will help with the broadcasting sponsorship, or it's shoring up a strategic area ...

"The merit of a team at Gosford is obvious. You've got a ready-made stadium, a population that loves the game, potential to reconnect to the traditional North Sydney fans, the corporate support of the North Shore.

"But to be fair, they are still working on their financial model. I think they would say it is not quite ready to present."But Fairleigh maintains it's close to complete.

TV rights

Regardless of when the independent commission is finalised, the timing of the next TV deal is set in stone. And 2013 is shaping up as the ideal time to bring in new NRL bargaining power.

Because Brisbane represents the third-biggest population market in Australia, there will be a huge push for a second Brisbane team. Gallop has also admitted that Perth represents a wonderful market to grow the game.

But if you take the results in our survey into consideration, people power is well and truly behind the Bears.

"Look, they're all compelling reasons," Fairleigh said.

"I don't think there is any doubt there will be expansion. It's just a matter of timing.

"The AFL's expanding, soccer's expanding, the Mariners' foothold on the Central Coast gets stronger and stronger, the Sydney Swans have just announced they are introducing an enormous program on the Central Coast. So we feel our timing is right.

"The longer we hold off, the more ground rugby league loses. And if you break down our membership, of 5600 members, it's a 70/30 split. So 70 per cent of those members are Central Coast-based people.

"We think we can add value to the game by reconnection to the North Shore. We know that other codes are trying to make inroads on the North Shore.

"The business districts in North Sydney are in the top five commercial regions in Australia. There are a number of businesses that are looking to get back into the game.

"And this is a rugby league heartland. But to be fair, the NRL knows that, and they have said that."

The verdict

The fans have spoken - now Gallop must wait for the independent commission before a final decision is made.

But comments recently from Gold Coast boss Michael Searle hit a nerve with all expansion bid teams. Searle has played a significant hand in the development of the commission, but his comments that expansion wouldn't happen for at least five years didn't go unnoticed.

"It does annoy me," Fairleigh said. "We can deliver an NRL team to a region of one million people. We can deliver a sustainable team.

"We can deliver pathways for the 7000 juniors. We can be self-sufficient. We've got all the support we need."

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/wake-bears-from-hibernation/story-e6frexnr-1226003334396

So nothing has changed then.

slight bending of the truth again.......the Question in the survey reads where should the next expansion team be......one of the options is the central coast


nowhere does it mention the Bears, they would have been better off asking do you support the Bears on the Central Coast

The Central Coast Bears bid is the Central Coast bid.
The Central Coast Bears team is the Central Coast's team.
 

Rockin Ronny

Juniors
Messages
1,769
and yet the bears supporters here, keep talking about how the people of the central coast and the upper and lower north shore want the bears back.....the figures do not show this

Sorry, Manly - your attempt to steal Gosford Stadium by stealth failed. Your future is at Brokeback Oval - the greatest dump in the world - money running out - and with the dumbest fans in professional sport.
 
Messages
1,695
The figures don't show that an area wants an NRL team, if that's the tactic you want to take. Brisbane have 12000 members out of a city of 2 million...less than 1%. Quick, dump them :roll:

but Brisbane is not trying to get into the NRL and needing to prove that the people in a new area want a team
 

Beowulf

Juniors
Messages
720
so out of 300,000 people on the central coast, there are 3,923 members which is only, just over one per cent of the population

and only 1,681 for the upper and lower north shore, and other areas

how long have you guys been pushing the bid on the central coast

mmm....when you put it into perspective, it does not look too good

mmm.....Brisbane has 2 million people and around 10,000 members. Do the math. Epic fail!
 
Messages
1,695
mmm.....Brisbane has 2 million people and around 10,000 members. Do the math. Epic fail!


and as i said earlier the current Brisbane team are not trying to enter the NRL and are not trying to show the NRL that an area want a team there, you guys are, you and other supporters here keep saying that the central coast and the north shore want the bears back.....on the figures i supplied it does not show this

by the way, nice try at deflection by you and adam........i seen what you did there :lol::lol:
 

RedVee

First Grade
Messages
7,285
Anyone know if the NRL is going to apply the 'sell memberships' test to the other franchise bidders?
 

Red&BlackBear

First Grade
Messages
5,621
Anyone know if the NRL is going to apply the 'sell memberships' test to the other franchise bidders?


Truth is no other bid is quite ready to sell memberships. Nor do they have volunteers ready to volunteer their time for the bid's case (which have made the CCBEARS membership drives a success and will make the WAREDS successful eventually).

I personally think the NRL should test all bids for memberships. Because regardless who gets in, they are going to have to sell memberships anyways. It's inevitable.
 

Red&BlackBear

First Grade
Messages
5,621
"David Gallop said to me that there will be at least one Queensland team in expansion plans and I asked him to go back and have a look at what he said and then he said there could be two," says Denis.

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2011/02/09/3133817.htm

What does this mean for the Central Coast Bears and WA Reds?


That the QLD bids are scrambling due to behind right behind the 8 ball and not organized? David Gallop says alot of things but what he has been most consistent in is the W.A. Reds & Central Coast Bears positions. The two bids which are seemingly ready for action.

As a matter of fact both bids are well advanced that it's really about polishing the bid documents before handing them in. Boxes ticked, money in the bank and support base ready.

Plus it's Dennis Keefe, he has been speaking the most s**t out of all the bid's CEO's and seemingly seems more concerned about other bids rather then Central Queensland's bid. Like I said in the other forum, Central Queensland should have never appointed this man as their CEO.
 
Last edited:

BDGS

Bench
Messages
4,102
That the QLD bids are scrambling due to behind right behind the 8 ball and not organized? David Gallop says alot of things but what he has been most consistent in is the W.A. Reds & Central Coast Bears positions. The two bids which are seemingly ready for action.

As a matter of fact both bids are well advanced that it's really about polishing the bid documents before handing them in. Boxes ticked, money in the bank and support base ready.

Plus it's Dennis Keefe, he has been speaking the most s**t out of all the bid's CEO's and seemingly seems more concerned about other bids rather then Central Queensland's bid. Like I said in the other forum, Central Queensland should have never appointed this man as their CEO.

My thoughts exactly, it's got no weight until Gallop says it himself.

The NRL would be mad to not give the Central Coast a team particularly when they have been screaming out for it for so long and the recent attacks by other codes. most recently the Swans Academy's now open on the Central Coast and in Wollongong.

And if the NRL really want the best they can get for the TV deal then WA is a no brainier straight off the bat.

That before you get into direct quotes from Gallop that seem to be him grooming the two areas for a team.
 

Red&BlackBear

First Grade
Messages
5,621
My thoughts exactly, it's got no weight until Gallop says it himself.

The NRL would be mad to not give the Central Coast a team particularly when they have been screaming out for it for so long and the recent attacks by other codes. most recently the Swans Academy's now open on the Central Coast and in Wollongong.

And if the NRL really want the best they can get for the TV deal then WA is a no brainier straight off the bat.

That before you get into direct quotes from Gallop that seem to be him grooming the two areas for a team.


Every bid has been guilty of misquoting someone. However CQ take the trophy in this regard and I support the CQ region, however I think the way D.Keefe has been handling this bid has been slighty poor. They have alot of potential but it won't be reached with this man as their CEO. Maybe as part of the board but definitely not as a CEO.

CCBEARS & WAREDS aren't worried. This ride is only going one way... forwards.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top