Changes Are Necassary

[Earl]

Michael Hussey has been an opener for 95% of his cricketing career. The only time he doesn't open is in One Day Domestic games in Australia and for Australia.

 

[borat]

Michael Hussey has been an opener for 95% of his cricketing career. The only time he doesn't open is in One Day Domestic games in Australia and for Australia.

Yeah I was thinking of where he bats ODI's.

 

[Timbo]

Timbo, Warne would just about open for his County side at the moment. Di Venuto does not even open for Tassie. Rodgers has only played a handful of county games and is more of a number 3 anyway which is where he plays for WA.

I was wrong about Hussey but IMO you cannot drop soemone with the experience and runs on the board that Hayden brings to the team.

Like it or not Katich is our worst performing batsman on tour. So if we are going to make changes to the batting line up then katich deserves to be the first to go. He is also so out of touch its just not funny.

It's been 28 innings since Hayden's last 100. In that time he's scored 865 runs at 33 with a best of 70 with only 5 half centuries. He's had one streak of 7 innings without a 50, and another streak (which he is presently in) of 8 without a hundred. It's also worth noting that his two highest scores in that streak of 28 innings were against an injury decimated NZ at Adelaide last summer.

If he doesn't deserve to be dropped noone does.

 

[borat]

It's been 28 innings since Hayden's last 100. In that time he's scored 865 runs at 33 with a best of 70 with only 5 half centuries. He's had one streak of 7 innings without a 50, and another streak (which he is presently in) of 8 without a hundred. It's also worth noting that his two highest scores in that streak of 28 innings were against an injury decimated NZ at Adelaide last summer.

If he doesn't deserve to be dropped noone does.

Timbo, the facts are his average this series is still better than Katich, by a cats whisker, but better none the less. I have faith that a guy who has scored 380 has another big score around the corner. He at least deserves 1 if not 2 more tests to come good. Katich hasn't got that record to fall back on. Surely you agree something needs to be done with our batting atm with Warne being our 3rd best batsman on tour.

 

[Timbo]

I could have gotten 380 against that Zimbawean attack.

In that same time-28 innings-Katich has two tons and 6 half tons.

 

[borat]

Timbo, he is still the worst performing batsman in this series. Do you think that 2 tons in 32 innings is OK for a specialist batsman, who now averages under 40. Whilst hayden still has a +50 average Our batting is rubbish right now and Katich is top of the list. Even in the first test our batting was pretty ordinary. The way I see it we either do nothing and England continue to dominate or we change things up.

I am not saying Hayden shouldn't be dropped but he deserves to have this series to redeem himself. Katich must be the first to go.

 

[Timbo]

Hayden has had a TWENTY EIGHT innings to redeem himself!

On one hand you're saying Hayden deserves a chance to work himself back into form, but then because of four poor innings you're saying Katich deserves to go?

 

[borat]

Hayden has had a TWENTY EIGHT innings to redeem himself!

On one hand you're saying Hayden deserves a chance to work himself back into form, but then because of four poor innings you're saying Katich deserves to go?

Yes I am. When you have a +50 test average you deserve extra consideration because you have proven yourself. Katich has not proven himself as a test batsman. 2 tons in 32 innings and an average of less than 40 is not good enough. He deserves to go FIRST.

 

[Timbo]

Hayden's average has dropped eight runs in the last season. Katich's has dropped 2.

Why are people so willing to carry dead wood!

 

[blackfriday]

hayden is all class and people all have rough times. hayden is a proven champion and hayden/langer combination cannot be underestimated. it is up there with hobbs/sutcliffe and haynes/greenidge.

katich has been patchy and undependable, and we cant avert our gaze any longer. he hasnt got a clue where to move his feet and he's playing terribly.

 

[Alan Shore]

Bring in Hussey and Hodge.

 

[borat]

Hayden's average has dropped eight runs in the last season. Katich's has dropped 2.

Why are people so willing to carry dead wood!

Because if you were averaging 60 with over 5000 runs to your name you can afford to drop to 52.

Katich's average has been plummeting from 60 since the beggining of 2004 to what it is today at 39. He has the worst test average of any Australian batsman and the worst average in this series. If there are problems in the Australian Batting that need addressing it starts with Katich.

 

[JoeysChiropractor]

Hayden has also scored runs in the tour matches and had a solid one day series. It's not as if he isn't scoring any runs at all. The fact that he is opening and has averaged 30 over the last 28 innings with a HS of 70 with only 5 50's shows he's getting starts, but not converting them.


If Hayden has averaged 30 during this dry patch and Katich's career average is just 39, that doesn't say much for Katich's consistency or ability to perform at the top level.

As for Hayden's 380, don't rubbish it as though you would have scored that many against them. Many players around the world have played the likes of that Zimbabwe side and also weaker Bangladesh sides and no one has come close to scoring 380.
I think they need to look at the bowlers because England scoring over 400 in the last 2 matches without much trouble is a concern. That doesn't happen to Australia and it has put the batsmen under a lot of pressure.

 

[fish eel]

at one all, there is no need to panic and make mass changes to the side.

Hayds, while not getting big scores is getting starts. At the very least, thats what you want from your opener. He is a champion and you don't discard champions lightly. He has earnt the right in my view to fight his way back into the form.

I'd make one change to the batting line up. Brad Hodge in, Simon Katich out. Katich looks shot to me, like a rabbit in the headlights with no confidence at all.

I like Katich and think he has been hardly done by in the past, and on this ashes tour he has been harshly treated in the one dayers, however he has now gone 5 innings without getting a run, at least Hayden is making a start. Katich looked really poor at old trafford.

 

[aussies1st]

Hayden was looking solid in the 2nd inns until he came across Flintoff and his reverse swing. But Katich had the same problem. If he can find a way to combat flintoff he could be in for a 100.

 

[Stuart]

Gillespie has to go. Bring in Tait. Katich IMO also has to go, he looks completely out of his depth against Flintoff and Jones, bring in Hussey. Hayden stays by the skin of his teeth, but if he doesnt score a big score soon bring in Jaques who has been in good form for a while now.

1-Hayden (Jaques)
2-Langer
3-Ponting
4-Martyn
5-Hussey
6-Clarke
7-Gillchrist
8-Warne
9-Lee
10-Tait
11-McGrath

 

[Johns Magic]

1. Langer
2. Jaques
3. Ponting
4. Martyn
5. Hussey
6. Clarke
7. Gilchrist
8. Warne
9. Lee
10. McGrath
11. MacGill

Australia needs more firepower in the bowling stakes and MacGill will provide that.

Two fresh faces in the batting order will do the team the world of good.

 

[aussies1st]

Gillespie has to go. Bring in Tait. Katich IMO also has to go, he looks completely out of his depth against Flintoff and Jones, bring in Hussey. Hayden stays by the skin of his teeth, but if he doesnt score a big score soon bring in Jaques who has been in good form for a while now.

1-Hayden (Jaques)
2-Langer
3-Ponting
4-Martyn
5-Hussey
6-Clarke
7-Gillchrist
8-Warne
9-Lee
10-Tait
11-McGrath

Perfect side. Hayden desevers one more go and we can't chuck a debuton as opener when we are 1-1. If he stuffs up again and we lose then he has to go. Hussey would be awesome at 5. He showed in the ODIs he could save our team when needed and the way our top order is going he maybe needed again.
Tait I hear can reverse swing it. Imagine England tasting some of their own medicine

 

[JoeysChiropractor]

You are dead set kidding if you think Jaques deserves a spot in this Australian side.


The same Australian side that has seen players who have been successful for years on years such as Love, Maher, Elliott, Lehmann, Bevan, etc etc not even get a look in with the test side.

At least Hussey has got the runs on the board and has consistency and success at a first class level.

 

[aussies1st]

Love, Lehmann, Bevan aren't opener. Elliot is past his time and Maher isn't in form. If they picked any of those players they are taking a step backwards. It is as bad as them keeping Dizzy for 3 tests.