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Chelsea F.C. II: Return of the Special One

HOw many trophies?


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Jimbo

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Here's another angle.

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Looks like he kicked the ball to me.

That's because you bothered to look

Unlike a few others on here...
 

whall15

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Has football gone mad? Hazard is sent off for kicking the ball under a ballboy attempting to smother the ball rather than return it. #CFC Tweet later deleted
Apologies for earlier ballboy tweet. Hazard has now met with the ballboy and has said sorry. #CFC


Didi Hamann @DietmarHamann
What has the game come to if you tell your ballboys to slow the game down.... Football is watched all over the world #Rolemodel


Michael Owen @themichaelowen
I'm not saying Hazard isn't in the wrong but I hate to see a person who instigates a situation then cry foul for next to nothing. How people can claim Hazard assaulted a kid is embarrassing. He shouldn't of kicked the ball out of his grasp but he hardly booted the lad as some people were suggesting. The lads antics were scandalous and no wonder he isn't taking any further action


Robbie Savage @RobbieSavage8
If the ballboy gives the ball straight back and does his job properly that doesn't happen!


Glenn Hoddle Sky Sports
"As a management team in European games you will tell the people who are instructing the ballboys that if you are winning the game, don't get the ball back quickly. That's your home advantage, in a way."


Steven Pienaar @therealstevenpi
I'm not saying its the correct thing 2 do but when in the heat of the moment u just want the ball


Stan Collymore @StanCollymore
Hazard deserved red (violent conduct rule). Kid is a prat. Ballboy job is to give ball quickly. End of. Is that enough of an opinion?


Gareth Bale @GarethBale11
Unbelievable decision by the referee to send Hazard off but congrats to Swansea. Who'd have predicted this final?!


Joseph Barton @Joey7Barton
After reviewing last nights footage, I've come to the conclusion that the games gone. Ballboys aged 17, time wasting, then rollin round like they've been shot. Games gone. He was actually claiming to be best time waster in the world on Twitter yesterday! WTF' that all about? ... Hazard only crime is he hasn't kicked him hard enough...


Rio Ferdinand @rioferdy5
17 year old ball boy… is that a wind up!!? Is being a ball boy now a career move??


Pat Nevin Radio 5 Live
I was very disappointed with the way that the ballboy acted. He must have been watching footballers with the way that he rolled around and pretended to be injured. He's only got one job and his job is to go and give the ball back. What does he do? He keeps the ball. I have to say I was absolutely amazed this morning to find he's 17. Not 12. Not 13. He should know what his actions should be in that situation. His behaviour was disgraceful. I would have kicked the ball out from underneath him if he was behaving like that, 100%."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2013/jan/24/swansea-city-ballboy-eden-hazard

Apologies in advance if any of this sounds harsh but there was a point, before Eden Hazard was shown the real thing, when it would have been no surprise if Charlie Morgan had bravely staggered to his feet and started waving an imaginary red card towards the referee.


That doesn't mean Hazard was right to deliver the sharp little kick with which he tried to dislodge the ball from beneath the Swansea City ballboy, even if it was a mix of naivety, impatience and silliness rather than anything genuinely malevolent. The basic fact – footballer kicks ballboy! – still represents something ignominious for Chelsea whatever the defence argument and however much the boy in question appears to have had a premeditated plan to annoy the hell out of Swansea's opponents.


They are, however, mitigating circumstances that should persuade the Football Association that it is probably better to leave it be rather than punishing Hazard any further than his automatic three-match ban for violent conduct.


Certainly this is not the story of some gnarled old professional booting a teary 11-year-old innocent. Charlie was not there because he had won a competition at school. He is 17, only five years younger than the Chelsea player, and sitting in a place surely more appropriate for children just coming out of that age when it is still acceptable to exchange milk teeth for pound coins.


The photograph on his Twitter account shows him clutching a can of Strongbow while his mate prefers Foster's. He is not a particularly big lad but still roughly the same size as Hazard and, plainly, he was willing to use every inch as he played dead on top of the ball instead of returning it the old-fashioned way. The Swansea Evening Post is calling him "a cult-hero" and, if he's not busy arranging a deal with a tabloid newspaper, one suspects Charlie might enjoy recounting the story to his mates this weekend, holding his ribs and pointing out where it hurts, much like Basil Fawlty used to reach for the old shrapnel wound.


Whatever the scale of thespianism, however, the bottom line is that Hazard was inviting trouble by kicking at the ball when he should have had the common sense to take a step back and point out to the referee what was happening. Various footballers have spoken out on his behalf, citing some form of teenage entrapment, and they would be right, to a degree, but Rafael Benítez's view on the matter was pretty accurate. They were both in the wrong, Chelsea's manager said. Charlie, the director's son who got the job as a family perk, thought he had the right to try to influence a sporting event watched by millions of people. Hazard, the professional who should have known better, let him do just that.


The irony here is both delicious and dismaying: a Premier League footballer sent off for kicking a ballboy (deliberately or not) who seems a dab hand in the art of time-wasting and exaggerating injury and who almost certainly learned these tricks from – that's right – watching the Premier League.


There was a time when a ballboy's basic duties were simple: get the ball and return it to the nearest player as quickly as possible. Very often that boy or girl would be so young they would have to use both hands to carry it. At times you would see them make a nervous, unco-ordinated attempt to catch the ball as it dropped from the skies. The crowd might even cheer a successful catch.


What happens now – not everywhere, but enough places for it to be a definite pattern – is very different. Rules have been put in place. Not official rules, but everyone is drilled with the same instructions. Ballboys are ball-teens now. They might be given towels if the pitch is wet and told to give the ball a quick dry if it is a throw-in to the home side. If it's the opposition, don't bother – keep the ball greasy, roll it back slowly rather than throw it. Don't worry if it's a few feet short, as long as it breaks the opposition's momentum. Neil Warnock's teams, particularly Sheffield United, have traditionally been very good at this – or bad, depending on where you stand.


But it's a common trend. "You tell the people who are instructing the ballboys that if you are winning, don't give the ball back quickly," Glenn Hoddle admitted during his television analysis of Wednesday's match. "That's your home advantage, in a way."
Charlie, it turns out, has been sitting by the touchline at Swansea's home matches for the past six years. Which puts himself alongside Leon Britton in terms of long service. Is this a regular thing then? Are Swansea in on the act? Naturally, they deny it but Charlie doesn't half give himself away on his Twitter feed, describing himself before the match as the "king of ballboys" and saying he was "needed for time-wasting."


None of this excuses Hazard's own decision-making but, at the same time, let's not demonise him as a flint-hearted bully. He was trying to get the ball, which was his right bearing in mind Chelsea were losing 2-0 in a cup semi-final with 12 minutes of normal time remaining. He went about it the wrong way and, for that, he will be fined, suspended and embarrassed. What this case does not need is an FA inquiry or the involvement of South Wales Police, unless it's a criminal offence these days to land Chelsea with another load of embarrassing headlines. In which case half the dressing room would be banged up.


As for Charlie, he is old enough to be playing professional football but also at an age when the odd moment of immaturity can probably be expected. Whatever his local paper says, though, when he is older and wiser he might realise, perhaps, that his sudden piece of notoriety actually went a long way towards shifting the focus from what should have been a night of immense celebration for Swansea.


The club Charlie supports have never been to a final in their 100-year existence, yet the first question for Michael Laudrup in his post-match press conference was nothing to do with Wembley or what it felt like to beat the Champions League winners over two legs. It was about a silly footballer and a silly boy, both of whom are probably old enough to have known a little bit better.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/24/eden-hazard-ballboy-chelsea-swansea
 

Haffa

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Would be nice if Swansea could control their children, either way pretty stupid from Hazard, he should have known better and it's all on him.
 

boxhead

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I agree. Luckily Hazard kicked the ball, which last time I checked forms a central part of the game.

So essentially Hazard was red-carded for kicking the ball during a game of football. Good times!

Only an idiot denies Hazard didn't make contact with the kid as well.
What the ball boy did was wrong and I sympathise that Hazard was trying to get the game going but per the rules you simply cannot make contact like that, regardless of intent. Hazard should have tried to grab the ball rather than kick it out. As soon as you put your foot in off the pitch or during a stoppage, you are done.

Try learning the rules of the game mate.
 
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typical

you and Joey Barton have alot in common

People pay good money to watch games not see some shithead ballboy slow the game down.

I bet you love it when players dive and all the cheating theatrics. f**ken biggest hypocrit if it was a shotface spurs player you'd say the same hahaha!!

f**k the spurs
 

Jason Maher

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I dunno why, but I love Joey Barton.

P.s. Don't suppose there has been a public comment from Eric Cantona?
 

Jimbo

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Possession stats from the match have been released

Swansea 30%
Chelsea 32%
Ball Boy 38%
 

Big Sam

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Rodgers laughs off Hazard incident

25 January 2013

Liverpool manager Brendan Rodgers has played down the now infamous clash between Chelsea winger Eden Hazard and a Swansea ball boy.

Belgium international Hazard was red carded during his side's Capital One Cup semi-final defeat to Swansea after kicking 17-year-old Charlie Morgan in an attempt to retrieve the ball.

Former Swansea manager Rodgers revealed that he knows the ball boy - who is son of a club director - personally, he insisted there is no need for charges to be brought against Hazard.

"I know Charlie well actually," he told reporters.

"He was great for me. He was taught well.

"He's a good boy, he loves his club and he loves his football. It was just an unfortunate incident to be fair. Hazard is obviously trying to get the ball back and, of course, none of us want to see (the incident) happen but I'm sure it wasn't intentional from Hazard.

"I've read all the ridiculous comments about whether (Hazard) should face criminal charges. It was just one of those incidents. Charlie's Twitter account has now got some more hits on it," he joked.

"Ball boys are well tuned-in to what's required in the game and it was maybe a wee bit of gamesmanship by Charlie but it's certainly nothing sinister. He's a real good kid. Any manager, player or coach would be happy if their ball boy did that."

The Northern Irishman also hailed his former club's achievement in reaching a first major cup final in their history following a 2-0 aggregate triumph over Chelsea.

"They are really passionate at Swansea about their football club and congratulations go to them," he said.

"It's a wonderful achievement over two legs to get through to the final and hopefully they will go on and have a chance to win their first major trophy.

"It was a great result, I haven't spoken to anyone - I have just exchanged messages with one or two of the people there."

Liverpool are in FA Cup fourth-round action away to Oldham on Sunday.

http://uk.soccerway.com/news/2013/January/25/rodgers-laughs-off-hazard-incident/
 

Twizzle

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People pay good money to watch games not see some shithead ballboy slow the game down.

I bet you love it when players dive and all the cheating theatrics. f**ken biggest hypocrit if it was a shotface spurs player you'd say the same hahaha!!

f**k the spurs

its such an evolutionary breakthrough that you can actually use a keyboard
 

WireMan

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OMG

The Chelsea fans can't find fault..

Imagine my surprise..

It's Chelsea, this is what they do. They will prob start a hate campaign so he has to retire from ball boying or something.

Also wait for the the defence that Hazard thought he saw the ball boy kicking out so was just repeating what he saw. Then the chelsea fans can boo ball boys whilst chanting "you know what you are"...


If Hazard ever takes longer than 3 seconds to take a throw when Chelsea are winning i'm assuming its ok for the nearest ball boy to kick him in the ribs?


I dunno why, but I love Joey Barton.

P.s. Don't suppose there has been a public comment from Eric Cantona?

He is probably thinking that when he kicked someone of the pitch he got banned for months. So given that United run the FA and consistency is everything we will see..

The only difference of course was Cantona kicked a gobsh*te cockney hooligan, whereas nasty Hazard kicked an innocent boy who was doing his job.

Oh and Joey Barton is a piece of sh*t.


As for his length of ban, i think he should get what ban Rooney would get if he kicked a ball boy. He got a two match ban for swearing as a comparison.

If we wanted to be really harsh, he should get whatever ban Suarez would get if he did it. i mean he was given so much sh*t for scoring a goal when a dopey ref didn't see a handball. He'd probably get his foot chopped off or something.
 

WireMan

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LOL @ Wireman still trying to justify a premeditated kung-fu king to the head...

Premeditated?

Your complex makes you say such silly things.

LOL @ that is all you took from a post that was about a Chelsea player.
Obsessed with United much.
 
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