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CHN wants out of Bulldogs

Brutalitops

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Yep and why wouldn't he want Canberra over us ?
It's only journo talk at the minute but it makes sense.

Don't like CHN's apparent sudden wish to leave the Dogs.

Don't know why he should be pissed off at his Club. They did not de-register him initially, the NRL did. Now that the penalty has been softened and he can play, seems he just wants to leave a sinking ship.

No sympathy for Canterbury, but does not sit well with me.

Anyway, like I said it may be all irrelevant and maybe its his manager NOT him saying he wants out as Canterbury are down and out.
I don't blame him for being pissed at the club. The Bulldogs are the ones who set the media and fan shitstorm regarding CHN and Okunbor having "done the same thing" in motion, by using a joint statement and lumping both offences into one sentence. A very short sighted thing to do considering one offence involved a child solicited during school hours and the other did not.

Their continued insistence to treat them as one issue merely pushed the notion he was a "pedo" instead of making things clearer.
 

TruSaint

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I don't blame him for being pissed at the club. The Bulldogs are the ones who set the media and fan shitstorm regarding CHN and Okunbor having "done the same thing" in motion, by using a joint statement and lumping both offences into one sentence. A very short sighted thing to do considering one offence involved a child solicited during school hours and the other did not.

Their continued insistence to treat them as one issue merely pushed the notion he was a "pedo" instead of making things clearer.

They were both stood down by the Club. That's all the Club did.
They both received show cause notices from the NRL.
The penalties laid down by the NRL initially reflected the difference in their actions, as you highlighted.
 

Dragonslayer

First Grade
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So, 3 points here
1. The Dogs want him to stay and technically he's under contract for 1 or 2 more years with them. They can just deny his request for release.

2. We would look at a swap deal, CHN for Lafai.

3. Apparantly, CHN wants to go to the Raiders.

If he wants the Raiders then there is a possibility they may offfer up Cotric as the swap deal. So, if you were the Dogs which swap is 'better', us offer Lafai, Raiders offer Cotric. I know which one I'd take.
This is why I think we will add another player into the deal (2 for 1). The other player could be someone who has already indicated they want out, but are under contract with us for next year ie: CHN for Lafai now and guaranteed release of the other player for 2021.

Which deal is more atteactive to the Dogs?
 

Warabrook saint

Juniors
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So, 3 points here
1. The Dogs want him to stay and technically he's under contract for 1 or 2 more years with them. They can just deny his request for release.

2. We would look at a swap deal, CHN for Lafai.

3. Apparantly, CHN wants to go to the Raiders.

If he wants the Raiders then there is a possibility they may offfer up Cotric as the swap deal. So, if you were the Dogs which swap is 'better', us offer Lafai, Raiders offer Cotric. I know which one I'd take.
This is why I think we will add another player into the deal (2 for 1). The other player could be someone who has already indicated they want out, but are under contract with us for next year ie: CHN for Lafai now and guaranteed release of the other player for 2021.

Which deal is more atteactive to the Dogs?
Let's hope so, the other player won't be with us next year anyway
 

possm

Coach
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So, 3 points here
1. The Dogs want him to stay and technically he's under contract for 1 or 2 more years with them. They can just deny his request for release.

2. We would look at a swap deal, CHN for Lafai.

3. Apparantly, CHN wants to go to the Raiders.

If he wants the Raiders then there is a possibility they may offfer up Cotric as the swap deal. So, if you were the Dogs which swap is 'better', us offer Lafai, Raiders offer Cotric. I know which one I'd take.
This is why I think we will add another player into the deal (2 for 1). The other player could be someone who has already indicated they want out, but are under contract with us for next year ie: CHN for Lafai now and guaranteed release of the other player for 2021.

Which deal is more atteactive to the Dogs?
Lafai and Aitken for CHN; Lafai and Aitken now, CHN now.

Norman to Broncos;
for D Fifita or
for a first grade prop or
for a left-centre or
for a fullback.

Dufty to five-eighth in place of Norman.
 

Jersey No 14

Juniors
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I'm more interested in SBW if he has further visa problems.
there is no way the roosyters can afford him.
If they do - they will be in breach of - everything!
 

possm

Coach
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I'm more interested in SBW if he has further visa problems.
there is no way the roosyters can afford him.
If they do - they will be in breach of - everything!
SBW will go to the Roosters if he decides to play NRL again. The Roosters will find a way even if it means letting one of their backrow forwards go and aggranging a big TPA for SBW.
 

redv13

Bench
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3,038
Lafai and Aitken for CHN; Lafai and Aitken now, CHN now.

Norman to Broncos;
for D Fifita or
for a first grade prop or
for a left-centre or
for a fullback.

Dufty to five-eighth in place of Norman.
Your going cray cray again possm.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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20,863
The Dogs have just sacked their coach. This is the time for them to talk to player and manager, and indicate that a new experienced coach will be there next year, that they have ample money for additional players under the cap, and do their best to keep him.

We cant do that, as Mary is still contracted, and whilst we had a decent win or two, remain an unattractive proposition.

Pretty sure they are mending the wounds as we speak. If he does leave, momentum has gathered that it will be the Raiders.

Confident he wont be with us.
 

True_Believer

Juniors
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The Dogs have just sacked their coach. This is the time for them to talk to player and manager, and indicate that a new experienced coach will be there next year, that they have ample money for additional players under the cap, and do their best to keep him.

We cant do that, as Mary is still contracted, and whilst we had a decent win or two, remain an unattractive proposition.

Pretty sure they are mending the wounds as we speak. If he does leave, momentum has gathered that it will be the Raiders.

Confident he wont be with us.

Agree Tru - it's the fact that we are an unattractive club at the moment with no clear indication of what the future may hold for any player coming on board. The only thing that we can offer at the moment is money. I'm concerned that we'll end up paying overs for more players just to attract them here.
 

Slippery Morris

First Grade
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Saints should use Jack De Belin money for CHN. If the NRL has compensated Saints for him sitting out then what better way to use it. Unless they can use it to pay out Mary.....

He will make a difference to the pack that is for sure.
 

Dragsters

First Grade
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More likely Aitken will stay here and host may go imo

If they keep Aiken and sign him to more than a one year deal at a time then they have rocks in their heads.

If the last 5 or so years has shown anything when it come to Aitken, it's that he can only be motivated by the prospect of another contract and closer he gets to the end the more effort he displays.

Not good enough...
 

muzby

Village Idiot
Staff member
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If they keep Aiken and sign him to more than a one year deal at a time then they have rocks in their heads.

If the last 5 or so years has shown anything when it come to Aitken, it's that he can only be motivated by the prospect of another contract and closer he gets to the end the more effort he displays.

Not good enough...
Give him a week to week contract.

Simples.
 

TruSaint

Referee
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20,863
Agree Tru - it's the fact that we are an unattractive club at the moment with no clear indication of what the future may hold for any player coming on board. The only thing that we can offer at the moment is money. I'm concerned that we'll end up paying overs for more players just to attract them here.

Yes, and therein lies the problem IMHO.

Bringing CHN on overs, achieves exactly what ? A better looking squad on paper to fill the void in the forwards ?

Interesting that most want this signing, but at the same time acknowledge that the coach we have couldn't get the best out of people like Frizzell / Luc / etc .

In addition, signing him in a pay war, will lead to other promising forwards looking elsewhere.

Until and when we have clear direction on the coaching status, any decent signing is improbable. We have what we have for this season. We need to deal with that. Players considering to come to us will be guided by pay, and opportunity. At the moment we offer only the former.
 

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