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Stranger

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Charlie Saab said:
Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
yeah johns is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THAT and yet he still has only one comp to his name. FORGET 1997. I have and i am a broncos supporter.Heck, Michael Jordan at least won 6 finals in the NBA and he was the greatest in his sport.

:lol: :lol: :lol: At least Johns has won 3MVPs how many has Lockyer won again ???? :lol: :lol:

could have been 4, but his temper got the better of him in 2001 and he elbowed dykes in the head at shark park.
Great leadership that was wasnt it? What a fine example to set for your team mates. "hey boys, if you get frustrated, just elbow them in the head on the ground" :roll:
Gee it was deliberate wasnt it :roll:
 

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Stranger said:
And it was a drawn series with Joey getting man of the match in the first game. how bad is that for a captain to get MOM

and langer getting it in game 3.
the match where everything was on the line
playing in sydney
1 all
joey went missing and Langer showed who is the big match player when the pressure is on
 

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Stranger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
yeah johns is ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL THAT and yet he still has only one comp to his name. FORGET 1997. I have and i am a broncos supporter.Heck, Michael Jordan at least won 6 finals in the NBA and he was the greatest in his sport.

:lol: :lol: :lol: At least Johns has won 3MVPs how many has Lockyer won again ???? :lol: :lol:

could have been 4, but his temper got the better of him in 2001 and he elbowed dykes in the head at shark park.
Great leadership that was wasnt it? What a fine example to set for your team mates. "hey boys, if you get frustrated, just elbow them in the head on the ground" :roll:
Gee it was deliberate wasnt it :roll:

here we go. Blatant newcastle bias.
It was as deliberate as one can get when it comes to delivering an elbow.
You have conjunctiviatas
 

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Charlie Saab said:
Tiger...i have no time for you.

Why the reply then :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Its clear that when anyone makes a valid points which you wouldn't agree with ignore them (like above twice)

I make a valid point and yet its clear your argument has been blown out of the water by a person who has an unbiased view on this topic wet dream boy ?? :lol: :lol: :lol: But hey we wouldn't want facts to get in the way of this topic now would we :lol: :lol: :lol:

Charlie Saab said:
You are someone who thinks laughing in games is a crime :roll:

Where did I state it was a crime ???

Maybe you should look at what a definition of a crime is before using that word ;-)

But hey wouldn't want facts to get in the way of a good argument now would we :lol: :lol:

Charlie Saab said:
Go play with neighbours cat or something. You have NFI about league

Really so why don't you answer the above questions, given your inabillity to do so it would indicate that you wet dream boy are infact the one who has "NFI" about rugby league :oops:
 

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Guys, enough already :lol:

Let's agree to disagree eh?

Razor, Johns Magic, Stranger, MT - Lockyer is a poor captain, Johns is the better option.

Charlie Saab, JW - Lockyer has done fine as captain, deserves to keep captaincy.

This is just turning into a shit-flinging fight between two packs of Gorillas.

But if you must persist, by all means...

;-)

Cheers.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
could have been 4, but his temper got the better of him in 2001 and he elbowed dykes in the head at shark park.
Great leadership that was wasnt it? What a fine example to set for your team mates. "hey boys, if you get frustrated, just elbow them in the head on the ground" :roll:

I thought you had no time for me :lol: :lol: :lol:

At least Johns is in the position to have a chance of winning 4 how many has Lockyer won again ??? :lol: :lol:
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
Tiger...i have no time for you.

Why the reply then :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Its clear that when anyone makes a valid points which you wouldn't agree with ignore them (like above twice)

I make a valid point and yet its clear your argument has been blown out of the water by a person who has an unbiased view on this topic wet dream boy ?? :lol: :lol: :lol: But hey we wouldn't want facts to get in the way of this topic now would we :lol: :lol: :lol:

Charlie Saab said:
You are someone who thinks laughing in games is a crime :roll:

Where did I state it was a crime ???

Maybe you should look at what a definition of a crime is before using that word ;-)

But hey wouldn't want facts to get in the way of a good argument now would we :lol: :lol:

Charlie Saab said:
Go play with neighbours cat or something. You have NFI about league

Really so why don't you answer the above questions, given your inabillity to do so it would indicate that you wet dream boy are infact the one who has "NFI" about rugby league :oops:

amnesia getting the better of you is it? I had this argument with you a few days ago with players laughing in a game.
I have more an idea about league than you could ever dream about
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
could have been 4, but his temper got the better of him in 2001 and he elbowed dykes in the head at shark park.
Great leadership that was wasnt it? What a fine example to set for your team mates. "hey boys, if you get frustrated, just elbow them in the head on the ground" :roll:

I thought you had no time for me :lol: :lol: :lol:

At least Johns is in the position to have a chance of winning 4 how many has Lockyer won again ??? :lol: :lol:

do change the babies nappie will you.
 

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:lol: but its so much fun... im argueing cause im right and cause its fun



Sabb- he went missing in game 3 didnt he- setting up the first for the blues
 

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Leaders must rely on actions not words
Posted Sunday, April 25, 2004
By Wayne Bennett

Leadership comes in many forms from political and business to sporting teams and, in my experience, the best leaders have been the doers, not the talkers.

North Queensland’s decision to take the captaincy off Paul Bowman - and let’s be clear from the start about it being their decision and their business - raises the question of what makes a good captain in the sporting sense.

The first thing we have to acknowledge is that being a leader in the business world - and they don’t call them captains of industry for nothing - is completely different from being the leader in a football team. The CEO of a company leads largely by words while the captain on the football field needs to lead by deeds.

The perfect sports team captain would need to lead from the front, be a good communicator, be someone who could articulate the coach’s instructions to his team-mates and be a good guy off the field. But, as we’ve learnt down the years, we don’t live in a perfect world and I’m yet to find the perfect captain.

Given that we’re unlikely to find anyone to fill those requirements to the letter, we have to look for someone who at least gets close and that usually means choosing between the guy who leads from the front and the guy who can deliver a magnificent pre-match or halftime speech.

I’ll take the first guy every time because he’s the one who can lift his team-mates by example.

The only pressure I’ve ever placed on my captains over the years has been that they go out and play to their own ability. We’ve all heard stories about sportsmen and women giving up the captaincy of their team "because it was affecting their own game" but I reckon in those cases the wrong person was chosen as captain in the first place. A good leader doesn’t concern himself with his team-mates’ games until his own house is in order.

One of the reasons given for Paul Bowman’s demise as Cowboys captain has been that he’s not a big talker on the field but that got me thinking about a little bloke named Allan Langer.

Alfie wasn’t a talker, either ... well, not on the field, anyway (he did plenty of talking elsewhere) ... but he captained the Broncos for eight years, captained Queensland and Australia and won premierships, State of Origin matches and Tests. He led by example and there was never any question that his team-mates would follow him.

I understand, Bowman has also been criticised for not more confrontational with the whistleblowers but Alf was never over-aggressive with referees and I never wanted him to be.

As I said from the start, the decision to take captaincy off Paul is the Cowboys’ business and the rest of us aren’t close enough to the team to know the whole story but I will say this, replacing the captain in any team in mid-season is not a great policy, especially when he’s been captain for a long time, as Bowman was.

In my experience, taking the captaincy of someone will leave a sour taste in the deposed captain’s mouth and any amount of PR and toe-ing the party line won’t change that. The dumped captain will eventually get over it but it makes a lot more sense to make the change in the off-season when he, and the team, have time to adjust.

As a final thought on captaincy and leadership, I’ll leave you with this: “True leaders are similar to eagles: they don’t flock - you find them one at a time”. And I might add, they let their deeds do the talking.
 

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Charlie Saab said:
amnesia getting the better of you is it? I had this argument with you a few days ago with players laughing in a game.
I have more an idea about league than you could ever dream about

No its not, we had an argument about improper behaviour on the field whilst representing your country however I never said it was a crime something which is clear your fantasy would indicate otherwise ;-)

Here is a tip, get your mummy to put you back into your cot so you can see your Lockyer poster on your ceiling and enjoy the wet dream whilst it lasts ;-)
 

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Charlie Saab said:
I have more an idea about league than you could ever dream about

You do ??? Who do you play for again ??? Have you played in any rep teams ??? What club are you affiliated with again ??? What club do you coach again ??? and I have no doubts the list can go on if you would like them too but hey why kick a boy whilst he is down :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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Mighty Tiger said:
Charlie Saab said:
I have more an idea about league than you could ever dream about

You do ??? Who do you play for again ??? Have you played in any rep teams ??? What club are you affiliated with again ??? What club do you coach again ??? and I have no doubts the list can go on if you would like them too but hey why kick a boy whilst he is down :lol: :lol: :lol:

oh so you have to have played the game to have some idea huh?
who do you play for? who do you coach?
 

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:-k intersting though you have to took at the fact its by Bennett

You're kidding.

And if the exact same article was written by, say, Warren Ryan?

Cheers.
 

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Stranger said:
Ohh and by the way Sabb get of your high horse
i love my high horse.
go play with your joey ball.
Did you go and buy one? You know they one with the hand imprints on it so "you too can kick like Joey"
 

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Stranger said:
:lol: but its so much fun... im argueing cause im right and cause its fun

Sabb- he went missing in game 3 didnt he- setting up the first for the blues

and after that? where was he?
Where was Langer when the game was on the line? I tell you where, throwing a great left to right ball to Dane Carlaw who scored in the corner.
It should not have been a draw anyway as Lockyer was denied a fair try by the vid ref under the posts with 6 minutes left.
 

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Stranger said:
what so Because joey didn't set-up the last try for the blues he went missing? :roll:

but a "true leader" shouldnt lose should he?
I mean joey johns is the best captain of all time the way it comes across from you newcastle goons.

Players, as good as they are, lose!!!!! Wally Lost, Mal lost, Langlands lost, Johns has lost, lockyer lost...all players lose sometime or another.
You are a bloody hypocrite. Lockyer shouldnt lose, but every player is allowed to.
ITs called SPORT...sh!t happens
 
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