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Chris Benoit and Family Found Dead

Gene Krupa

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I think they are describing the Cobra Clutch/ Million Dollar Dream. It's a real, working hold. It would do exactly what they said it did.
 

Misanthrope

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I think they are describing the Cobra Clutch. It's a real, working hold. It would do exactly what they said it did.

Bah, stupid journalists. I've never even seen Chris Benoit use a cobra clutch :p
 

Eelementary

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Using such a hold would kill someone in a not overly painful manner...A mercy killing of sorts, perhaps? :?

I don't know. Still shocked by it.
 

PARANoIR

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Benoit death notice posted online 13 hours early
Friday Jun 29 07:00 AEST
By ninemsn staff

A notice announcing the death of pro wrestler Chris Benoit's wife Nancy was posted on Wikipedia at least 13 hours before police found her dead at her home nearby the bodies of her husband and seven-year-old son.

Employees at Wikipedia told FoxNews the posting came from an anonymous user on a computer in Stamford, Conneticuit on Monday at 12.01am. Police found the bodies on Monday at 2.30pm, in Benoit's Atlanta, Georgia home.

Stamford is the location of World Wrestling Entertainment's headquarters.




The posting was made in reference to Benoit's scheduled appearance on Sunday night at an Extreme Championship Wrestling event in Texas.

"Chris Benoit was replaced by Johnny Nitro for the ECW Championship match at Vengeance, as Benoit was not there due to personal issues, stemming from the death of his wife Nancy," the post reads.

The edit was deleted shortly after by a Wikipedia moderator, who wrote the comment:

"Need a reliable source. Saying that his wife died is a pretty big statement, you need to back it up with something."

About one hour later, a user located in Australia made another edit to the passage, writing: "which according to several pro wrestling websites is attributed to the passing of Benoit's wife, Nancy."

"Saying 'several pro wrestling websites' is still not reliable information," a moderator replied shortly thereafter.

Investigators so far have ruled the Benoit killings as a double homicide-suicide.

New reports show that former pro wrestler Sherri Martel, who was found dead on June 15, was linked to former wrestler Kevin Sullivan — the ex-husband of Nancy Benoit.

Police, who are still investigating Martel's death, say there is no foul play suspected — but she did not die of natural causes.



Now don't tell me that there is no one here that doesn't find it a little bit suss that two former lovers of Kevin Sullivan and a man whom it was no secret that he absolutely hated, are now dead. There is definitely still more to this. I'd like to know if anyone's seen Kevin Sullivan lately.
 

Misanthrope

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That Wikipedia thing was a little suss, especially given WWE Headquarters is located in Stamford, Connecticut (and isn't one of the branches from The Office US there!? :lol:)
 

Ridders

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he gets alotta bagging but i've really gained a lot of respect for Mr. McMahon after this. He's copping so much sh*t and yet he's still acting as the face of the business and taking all the shots from the effin media
 

Y2Eel

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News on the Wikipedia Entry from PWTorch.


Wikinews features a "confession" of sorts from the person who posted the item that Nancy Benoit had died - more than 12 hours before authorities discovered her body. It has been headline news in newspapers and cable TV shows across the nation (and world). The person, posting from the same IP address (which virtually confirms it is the same person), claims it was a lucky guess and now feels terrible about he commotion it caused.

Excerpt: "Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this."

The confessor did not reveal an identity, citing family privacy reasons. Wikinews said it is still attempting to contact and interview the individual responsible.

Apology/Confession Link

WK ANALYSIS: This is a story I sat on for two days (I got emails on it dating back to Tuesday) because I didn't consider anything more than a lucky guess and not worth pursuing in a busy news week. But once the IP was traced to Connecticut, it became intriguing and worth exploring. Then, when investigation through Wikipedia's history linked to that IP address revealed that the individual had previously edited just a month earlier a Chavo Guerrero entry on Wikipedia - not to vandalize it, but to eliminate vile and outlandish accusations - it seemed too big of a coincidence. The fact that a person who accurately predicted something that few people could have had insight into at that point had also come to the defense on Wikipedia of one person who had tons of insight into Benoit's situation that weekend, then it became a story.

The problem with the confession is that it fits two scenarios: One, a guy guessed right and is now sorry. Two, someone who broke confidence with someone who had inside info, who somehow has a tie with Chavo Guerrero, and is scared to death that he or she has just gotten into a lot of trouble and perhaps gotten Chavo or someone else who was a middleman between them in trouble because the Wikipedia entry indicates Chavo might have known more earlier than he let on. The only way to eliminate the potential tie-in to anyone who was privy to insight into Nancy's well-being or Benoit's potential actions or confessed actions is for this person to come forward and be investigated and then cleared of any such connection.

This confession, frankly, makes me more suspicious that there's more to it than I was before the confession was made. A prankster who used vile anti-black and anti-gay terms in previous Wikipedia posts (those sharing the same IP number) doesn't seem like the type who would want to end the media frenzy surrounding his attention-seeking posts so quickly. This confession comes across as more likely someone doing damage control to try to stop the attention because there is something to hide. That's just my take on it, nothing more or less.

taken from wrestling-edge.com
 

Game_Breaker

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Y2Eel said:
News on the Wikipedia Entry from PWTorch.


Wikinews features a "confession" of sorts from the person who posted the item that Nancy Benoit had died - more than 12 hours before authorities discovered her body. It has been headline news in newspapers and cable TV shows across the nation (and world). The person, posting from the same IP address (which virtually confirms it is the same person), claims it was a lucky guess and now feels terrible about he commotion it caused.

Excerpt: "Hey everyone. I am here to talk about the wikipedia comment that was left by myself. I just want to say that it was an incredible coincidence. Last weekend, I had heard about Chris Benoit no showing Vengeance because of a family emergency, and I had heard rumors about why that was. I was reading rumors and speculation about this matter online, and one of them included that his wife may have passed away, and I did the wrong thing by posting it on wikipedia to spite there being no evidence. I posted my speculation on the situation at the time and I am deeply sorry about this, and I was just as shocked as everyone when I heard that this actually would happen in real life. It is one of those things that just turned into a huge coincidence. That night I found out that what I posted, ended up actually happening, a 1 in 10,000 chance of happening, or so I thought. I was beyond wrong for posting wrongful information, and I am sorry to everyone for this."

The confessor did not reveal an identity, citing family privacy reasons. Wikinews said it is still attempting to contact and interview the individual responsible.

Apology/Confession Link

WK ANALYSIS: This is a story I sat on for two days (I got emails on it dating back to Tuesday) because I didn't consider anything more than a lucky guess and not worth pursuing in a busy news week. But once the IP was traced to Connecticut, it became intriguing and worth exploring. Then, when investigation through Wikipedia's history linked to that IP address revealed that the individual had previously edited just a month earlier a Chavo Guerrero entry on Wikipedia - not to vandalize it, but to eliminate vile and outlandish accusations - it seemed too big of a coincidence. The fact that a person who accurately predicted something that few people could have had insight into at that point had also come to the defense on Wikipedia of one person who had tons of insight into Benoit's situation that weekend, then it became a story.

The problem with the confession is that it fits two scenarios: One, a guy guessed right and is now sorry. Two, someone who broke confidence with someone who had inside info, who somehow has a tie with Chavo Guerrero, and is scared to death that he or she has just gotten into a lot of trouble and perhaps gotten Chavo or someone else who was a middleman between them in trouble because the Wikipedia entry indicates Chavo might have known more earlier than he let on. The only way to eliminate the potential tie-in to anyone who was privy to insight into Nancy's well-being or Benoit's potential actions or confessed actions is for this person to come forward and be investigated and then cleared of any such connection.

This confession, frankly, makes me more suspicious that there's more to it than I was before the confession was made. A prankster who used vile anti-black and anti-gay terms in previous Wikipedia posts (those sharing the same IP number) doesn't seem like the type who would want to end the media frenzy surrounding his attention-seeking posts so quickly. This confession comes across as more likely someone doing damage control to try to stop the attention because there is something to hide. That's just my take on it, nothing more or less.

taken from wrestling-edge.com



He's reading too much into it I think

IMO it looks like its just a racist wrestling fan in the U.S.
 

Eelectrica

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I think the wikipedia entry is a practical joke for want of a better term gone horribly wrong.
Had Chavo known anything like what the situation was he'd have acted on it immediately.
 

ParraDude_Jay

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Y2Eel said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYrAu0cYCYw

Vinny Mac is really taking it from the media... Must be hard for him to keep coming back and facing the media...

Meredith was dead set asking for a punch in the face the way she was carrying on. Rather than try to gain some insight into the mind of Benoit she spends the whole time trying to trick McMahon into saying something incriminating about steroids. She ran Vince off twice so she could get to the steroids quicker. Bloody media, a man has murdered his wife and child and all they can think about is trying to be the first one to uncover a big drugs scandal in pro wrestling.
 

PARANoIR

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Here's Wade Kellar, from PWTorch's analysis of the apology...

This is a story I sat on for two days (I got emails on it dating back to Tuesday) because I didn't consider anything more than a lucky guess and not worth pursuing in a busy news week. But once the IP was traced to Connecticut, it became intriguing and worth exploring. Then, when investigation through Wikipedia's history linked to that IP address revealed that the individual had previously edited just a month earlier a Chavo Guerrero entry on Wikipedia - not to vandalize it, but to eliminate vile and outlandish accusations - it seemed too big of a coincidence. The fact that a person who accurately predicted something that few people could have had insight into at that point had also come to the defense on Wikipedia of one person who had tons of insight into Benoit's situation that weekend, then it became a story.

The problem with the confession is that it fits two scenarios: One, a guy guessed right and is now sorry. Two, someone who broke confidence with someone who had inside info, who somehow has a tie with Chavo Guerrero, and is scared to death that he or she has just gotten into a lot of trouble and perhaps gotten Chavo or someone else who was a middleman between them in trouble because the Wikipedia entry indicates Chavo might have known more earlier than he let on. The only way to eliminate the potential tie-in to anyone who was privy to insight into Nancy's well-being or Benoit's potential actions or confessed actions is for this person to come forward and be investigated and then cleared of any such connection.

This confession, frankly, makes me more suspicious that there's more to it than I was before the confession was made. A prankster who used vile anti-black and anti-gay terms in previous Wikipedia posts (those sharing the same IP number) doesn't seem like the type who would want to end the media frenzy surrounding his attention-seeking posts so quickly. This confession comes across as more likely someone doing damage control to try to stop the attention because there is something to hide. That's just my take on it, nothing more or less.

The plot thickens.
 

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