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Chris Paul --> Lakers - (Vetoed again)

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So then it doesn't necessarily correlate to market size, which for some reason media experts always state as fact.

And to be fair to the Celtics and Knicks, they were shit for a long time before they acquired their teams. I mean the Knicks had to live through the Isiah era :lol:

The Lakers are the only team I can understand people having a gripe with, since they never seem to really hit rock bottom.

It does for exposure. Technically the Heat are a small market city but you can't deny they aren't a hot destination for players to go for the life style that comes with South Beach. The market size is also determined by TV's in homes IIRC so that is slightly flawed since there is the money available through investors and sponsors.

The Knicks and Celtics also went shit during an era where teaming up with 2 other superstars wasn't done until players were well past their peak and chasing a ring. Boston somewhat kept the trend of ring chasers but it's a new game since the decision.
 

BunniesMan

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Why do you think they want to be traded mate?

If they are traded before the deadline...and then opt out...they are able to sign for the max deal.

If they let the team's deal expire...and went to that team in Free Agency, they'd get less money.

THere was an article on Grantland breaking down how much money they'd lose in going to FA instead of trade & opt out...it was like $30m. I'm trying to find it.

These dipsticks don't want to take less money ffs. If they didn't care about the money...let the Hornets trade you for whatever they can get now from the freaking Timberwolves. Then you can leave in FA and go wherever. Its not about the money right? My freakin ass.

All I have to say is thank Christ for Kevin Durant. A guy who loves his team who took a chance and drafted him and is giving them all he has without being an egomaniac f**kwit. And NBA players wonder why people end up hating them? lol.
Obviously they want to have their cake and eat it too. But if they can't they'll just eat it. The stars want their max money and they want to go to the team of their choice. But if they don't get their way they'll just walk away in FA, sure they'll get a bit less money but the pros will outweigh the cons. The Hornets can offer Paul more money than anyone else, but he still won't consider them in FA, same with Howard in Orlando. The topline stars make so much money in endorsements, their contracts aren't as crucial. Paul and Howard will end up going precisely where they want to, the only unclear thing at this point is whether it'll happen now with their current teams getting something in return or later with their current teams getting nothing.
 

Ridders

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The New Orleans Hornets' three-team trade with the Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets that would land Chris Paul in L.A. has been resubmitted to the league office for approval, according to sources close to the talks.

The specific changes to the original trade scenario were not immediately available, but sources told ESPN.com that a reconfigured trade has been presented by the league-owned Hornets to NBA commissioner David Stern in hopes that he'll approve this construction after vetoing Thursday's trade in principle.

The NBA on Friday afternoon gave the Hornets clearance to re-open conversations with all teams about possible deals, one day after Stern nixed a deal Thursday that would have landed Paul with the Lakers, Pau Gasol with the Rockets and given the Hornets three new starters: Kevin Martin, Lamar Odom and Luis Scola.

Sources close to the talks told ESPN.com earlier Friday that the Hornets, Lakers and Rockets were hopeful of reconfiguring the trade to the point that Stern, after absorbing heavy and widespread criticism for intervening, signs off this time.

In the afternoon, Yahoo! Sports reported that New Orleans had re-engaged the Lakers and Rockets to try to make the needed changes to a trade that would have also delivered guard Goran Dragic and a 2012 first-round pick to New Orleans.

"Yes, we've been given autonomy to make another trade," Hornets general manager Dell Demps told reporters at a news conference Friday night.
"We're back to work and everything is on the table."

The National Basketball Players Association, meanwhile, has decided not to take immediate action on behalf of Paul, according to sources close to the situation.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7338172/sources-chris-paul-los-angeles-lakers-trade-resubmitted

Man imagine the lols if this gets vetoed as well :lol:

Interesting that they haven't released the details.
 

Special K

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Who cares if the thunder built through the draft? They have done an awesome job. If Westbrook wants to leave I'm sure they will get good value for him. The draft should be where these small market teams build from. Look at the spurs with the key players they have put around Duncan that they picked up in the 2nd half of the draft.

I think James would still be a cav if they put the right players around him. They just couldn't draft and tried to win right away rather than getting cap space and taking their time.

This 2nd Paul trade must happen.
 

ceagle

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Yeah OKC is doing ok. Because they drafted their guys.

What marquee Free Agent have they attracted?

Russell Westbrook has already come out and said "hey man I wanna go to LA once I'm done here".

Only Durant is the player with enough stones to repay the faith in drafting him.

Noone gave Westbrook a shot other than OKC...but now he's now a borderline elite guard....Man...I wanna get paid & play in LA.

As for Memphis...they got Marc Gasol through a trade with LA where they gave up heaps and got only him back in return. They got Zach Randolph after an 08/09 season where he played for 3 different teams in the same year. They got Tony Allen by overpaying. They got Rudy Gay and OJ Mayo through the draft. So I will ask again...what big time free agent is going to Memphis? Answer...NONE.

Battier went there because noone else wanted him. Now he had one decent year again...he's off...going to Miami to join the "dream team".

The fact is...if you are a small market team...you need 4 great draft's in a row....and then you have 4-5 years to win a title...after that...those guys are off to greener pastures. There are only so many Kevin Durants out there. For every Durant...there are 40 guys who want to play in big markets...but don't want to sacrifice the $ either.
Westbrook is a restricted agent, he isn't going anywhere for 5 years.
 

ByRd

First Grade
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Odom to the Mavs for the TPE. Must mean Howard is a lock to the Lakers now. Bynum and the TPE for Dwight and Hedo.
 

andrew057

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Mike_Bresnahan Mike Bresnahan
Source confirms that Odom is gone "for sure," and Paul trade has fallen apart. Not for Howard, either. Source: It's a straight salary dump.


:)
 

Big Mick

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If the proposed trade to the Clippers is right it is WAY better than the current deal.

Aminu, Bledsoe, Kaman & Timberwolves unprotected first round pick....for Paul.

Two really good young pieces to build around, a solid but over-rated center...but that Timberwolves pick could be gold. Way better than three aging players and a Knicks first rounder that'll likely be a late first.
 

Ridders

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Something trade has to be coming down the line?

FFS sad to see Odom go. To the Mavs as well. Fmd
 

Big Mick

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ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein



Deal w/LAL & HOU enables league-owned Hornets to stay competitive now. Deal w/Clippers is more along lines of what NBA wants: Youth/picks

I think the Clippers would turn into a contender instantly.

Him with Griffen?...even if Gordon doesn't stay...
 
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Interesting to see Kobe quoted as saying that not only does he not like Odom being traded but to the Mavs aswell.

I'd love to see how he would handle Gasol being traded and LAL missing out on D12 :lol:
 
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