Complaint of racial abuse in Roosters v Broncos

[Nutz]

What I can't understand is how a Samoan born fella makes a racist taunt against another indigenous fella [born in Sydney]. Surely Spencer knows the gravity of this or is he the dummy.
Is this something that happens between people with similar backgrounds...like a tribal thing. Is it something that is common and is a community problem.
I've been called all sorts of names in my life in pubs by mates but it's just an Aussie thing... it's just banter. Aussie traditionally sledge each other in pubs and in sport... I'm not saying it's right though, one can go too far.
Years ago people were called "ya mad Mediterranean Descendant" in jest, or ya winging pom to their mates and the banter would continue. These days things are slowly changing.
If it stayed on the field then after the game, Spencer went to Ezra and apologised, would it be ok? Probably not but I doubt it would have escalated.
I think the whole racial slurs bit is slowly being eradicated by education and cohabitation. This country has come along leaps and bounds regarding racism, especially over the last 10 years but we still have a long way to go.
Until our kids continually see and hear it's not ok to make racial slurs from their peers and there's ramifications for saying it then the longer our country will do it.

 

[Eion]

Small price to pay
Tv money
Tv audience
Media backlash
100s of millions India fan's upset
Tickets sale's. Holders
The list just goes on
The big picture is more important
The old saying
The game must GO ON

Could not disagree more.
But CA agreed with you

 

[Eion]

What I can't understand is how a Samoan born fella makes a racist taunt against another indigenous fella [born in Sydney]. Surely Spencer knows the gravity of this or is he the dummy.
Is this something that happens between people with similar backgrounds...like a tribal thing. Is it something that is common and is a community problem.
I've been called all sorts of names in my life in pubs by mates but it's just an Aussie thing... it's just banter. Aussie traditionally sledge each other in pubs and in sport... I'm not saying it's right though, one can go too far.
Years ago people were called "ya mad Mediterranean Descendant" in jest, or ya winging pom to their mates and the banter would continue. These days things are slowly changing.
If it stayed on the field then after the game, Spencer went to Ezra and apologised, would it be ok? Probably not but I doubt it would have escalated.
I think the whole racial slurs bit is slowly being eradicated by education and cohabitation. This country has come along leaps and bounds regarding racism, especially over the last 10 years but we still have a long way to go.
Until our kids continually see and hear it's not ok to make racial slurs from their peers and there's ramifications for saying it then the longer our country will do it.

There seems to be a view by some that only whites can be racist. Not saying Spencer is or isn’t, but the reality is, every race has racists in their ranks and probably in more or less equal measure.

 

[JamesRustle]

What happened to the girl who said it to Adam Goodes?

She's a staffer at one nation.

 

[Iamback]

There seems to be a view by some that only whites can be racist. Not saying Spencer is or isn’t, but the reality is, every race has racists in their ranks and probably in more or less equal measure.

It is never excusable BUT you can see why an old white guy who is out of touch would say it.

An islander that has done a heap for his community against such things as racism should know better.

IF he did say it that is the part that is the head scratcher for me

 

[Vlad59]

There seems to be a view by some that only whites can be racist. Not saying Spencer is or isn’t, but the reality is, every race has racists in their ranks and probably in more or less equal measure.

My club had a touchie level racist abuse against my players (Polynesian/indigenous) during a game. I approached him about it at half time and he said ‘not possible . I’m indigenous’. I went to the lads, pointed at him, let them know his response loudly so he could hear me. They collectively glared at him with a mixture of disgust anger and disbelief. He metaphorically shat his pants and pulled his head in. We got a few good decisions from him after that.

 

[Nutz]

I think that it's a personal thing. Some people react to small seemingly insignificant taunts and others take it as mere. That's what it use to be.
If at pub or at a bbq with your mates and someone said something to ruffle your feathers you'd simply say "hey mate, steady on" and if he was a true mate he would know he's overstepped the mark and would say sorry... everyone knows where everyone stands. That's a personal example between mates.
In a community, we all can't assume anything.
In this case, his assumption was way off and disgraceful if indead he said it.
Respect is the key word here.
I also believe respect and tolerance [or the lack thereof] is something we learn as a toldler thru to high school and onwards. So education is important.

 

[King-Gutho94]

I dont normally agree with Paul Kent but i did last night on 360.

In that no matter what you think of the incident Spencer deserves a fair trial and if found guilty the book and kitchen sink should be thrown at him.

Someone like Latrell Mitchell to come out and comment on possible punishments before the case by saying he deserves half the season is an utter disgrace.

Support Ezra Mam but to be publicly putting pressure on the judicary shouldn't be happening.

While he deserves half the season it if found guilty no player or administrator should be commenting on the matter until the case is heard.

I am sure the hypocrite Blake Solly the souths CEO will keep his mouth shut this week. I recall him whinging about a similar scenario when Latrell bashed Manu's head in and he didnt get a fair hearing as everyone had him hung, drawn and quartered before the hearing was set.

 

[Canard]

The NRL not convening the Judiciary until next Tuesday, is just adding fuel to the fire.

It's going to be in the news cycle all week, and commentators, players and punters will give there opinion all week.

Who is running the NRL? The Roosters football manager?

 

[Captain Apollo]

The NRL not convening the Judiciary until next Tuesday, is just adding fuel to the fire.

It's going to be in the news cycle all week, and commentators, players and punters will give there opinion all week.

Who is running the NRL? The Roosters football manager?

Considering the players from both clubs didn't get back to Australia until yesterday what did you expect? Lenui and his reps to work out his submissions whilst sitting on a plane? FHS, you completely ignore realistic logistical issues, and had it been convened yesterday as the original announcement of it seemed to imply, could have lead to appealable grounds by Lenui for denial of due process.

I've been on the receiving end of lack of due process more than once in my life, and on things far graver than this. It is one of the worst things that you can have happen.

 

[soc123_au]

I dont normally agree with Paul Kent but i did last night on 360.

In that no matter what you think of the incident Spencer deserves a fair trial and if found guilty the book and kitchen sink should be thrown at him.

Someone like Latrell Mitchell to come out and comment on possible punishments before the case by saying he deserves half the season is an utter disgrace.

Support Ezra Mam but to be publicly putting pressure on the judicary shouldn't be happening.

While he deserves half the season it if found guilty no player or administrator should be commenting on the matter until the case is heard.

I am sure the hypocrite Blake Solly the souths CEO will keep his mouth shut this week. I recall him whinging about a similar scenario when Latrell bashed Manu's head in and he didnt get a fair hearing as everyone had him hung, drawn and quartered before the hearing was set.

It was a bit different from Kent. Not sure if it was because Roosters or a change of attitude due to his personal experiences. Time well tell.

 

[King-Gutho94]

It was a bit different from Kent. Not sure if it was because Roosters or a change of attitude due to his personal experiences. Time well tell.

Personal experience can change how you see the world.

I am sure most people had PK guilty from the start due to not liking the bloke and he knew that.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Personal experience can change how you see the world.

I am sure most people had PK guilty from the start due to not liking the bloke and he knew that.

It was definitely a more measured PK last night. Good to see.

 

[Vlad59]

Considering the players from both clubs didn't get back to Australia until yesterday what did you expect? Lenui and his reps to work out his submissions whilst sitting on a plane? FHS, you completely ignore realistic logistical issues, and had it been convened yesterday as the original announcement of it seemed to imply, could have lead to appealable grounds by Lenui for denial of due process.

I've been on the receiving end of lack of due process more than once in my life, and on things far graver than this. It is one of the worst things that you can have happen.

Yep. It’s soul destroying when you know the process is being used against you mate. It can cruel your mental health terribly. It’s why I am a pain in the ass over the importance of natural justice, fairness, and due process.

 

[yobbo84]

I dont normally agree with Paul Kent but i did last night on 360.

In that no matter what you think of the incident Spencer deserves a fair trial and if found guilty the book and kitchen sink should be thrown at him.

Someone like Latrell Mitchell to come out and comment on possible punishments before the case by saying he deserves half the season is an utter disgrace.

Support Ezra Mam but to be publicly putting pressure on the judicary shouldn't be happening.

While he deserves half the season it if found guilty no player or administrator should be commenting on the matter until the case is heard.

I am sure the hypocrite Blake Solly the souths CEO will keep his mouth shut this week. I recall him whinging about a similar scenario when Latrell bashed Manu's head in and he didnt get a fair hearing as everyone had him hung, drawn and quartered before the hearing was set.

There's only one utter disgrace here and it's the racist, not the people who "come out and comment".

People are acting like Latrell called a press conference. He commented on an Instagram story. Someone else wanted a big suspension if found guilty and all Latrell wrote was "and then some". That's it. Written by a guy who was literally racially abused at Penrith last year.... in just the latest incident. I think you can understand his point of view.

Reporting that in the manner it has been is just rage bait from the media. Seems it's working, though.

 

[Vlad59]

There's only one utter disgrace here and it's the racist, not the people who "come out and comment".

People are acting like Latrell called a press conference. He commented on an Instagram story. Someone else wanted a big suspension and all Latrell said was "and then some". That's it. Three words.

Reporting that in the manner it has been is just rage bait from the media. Seems it's working, though.

Players should just pull their heads in when it’s comes to pending tribunal hearings. Problem solved.

 

[yobbo84]

There seems to be a view by some that only whites can be racist. Not saying Spencer is or isn’t, but the reality is, every race has racists in their ranks and probably in more or less equal measure.

I had a former colleague tell me with a straight face that only white Europeans can be racist.

My answer? I invited her to my Lebanese family's next BBQ.

 

[soc123_au]

Personal experience can change how you see the world.

I am sure most people had PK guilty from the start due to not liking the bloke and he knew that.

I'm hoping that is the case with Kent. He is actually decent when not being a knob, so a new improved version wouldn't be a bad thing.

Next time Ricky needs a white knight will be the true test.

 

[Get Rid of The Donkeys]

What I can't understand is how a Samoan born fella makes a racist taunt against another indigenous fella [born in Sydney]. Surely Spencer knows the gravity of this or is he the dummy.
Is this something that happens between people with similar backgrounds...like a tribal thing. Is it something that is common and is a community problem.
I've been called all sorts of names in my life in pubs by mates but it's just an Aussie thing... it's just banter. Aussie traditionally sledge each other in pubs and in sport... I'm not saying it's right though, one can go too far.
Years ago people were called "ya mad Mediterranean Descendant" in jest, or ya winging pom to their mates and the banter would continue. These days things are slowly changing.
If it stayed on the field then after the game, Spencer went to Ezra and apologised, would it be ok? Probably not but I doubt it would have escalated.
I think the whole racial slurs bit is slowly being eradicated by education and cohabitation. This country has come along leaps and bounds regarding racism, especially over the last 10 years but we still have a long way to go.
Until our kids continually see and hear it's not ok to make racial slurs from their peers and there's ramifications for saying it then the longer our country will do it.

There was a lot of gang-related violence between Africans, Polynesians and Aboriginals in Logan 16 years ago. It culminated in the murder of Jonathan Thurston's uncle at a park in Woodridge.

 

[bad boy bubby]

What I can't understand is how a Samoan born fella makes a racist taunt against another indigenous fella [born in Sydney]. Surely Spencer knows the gravity of this or is he the dummy.
Is this something that happens between people with similar backgrounds...like a tribal thing. Is it something that is common and is a community problem.
I've been called all sorts of names in my life in pubs by mates but it's just an Aussie thing... it's just banter. Aussie traditionally sledge each other in pubs and in sport... I'm not saying it's right though, one can go too far.
Years ago people were called "ya mad Mediterranean Descendant" in jest, or ya winging pom to their mates and the banter would continue. These days things are slowly changing.
If it stayed on the field then after the game, Spencer went to Ezra and apologised, would it be ok? Probably not but I doubt it would have escalated.
I think the whole racial slurs bit is slowly being eradicated by education and cohabitation. This country has come along leaps and bounds regarding racism, especially over the last 10 years but we still have a long way to go.
Until our kids continually see and hear it's not ok to make racial slurs from their peers and there's ramifications for saying it then the longer our country will do it.

I was at an A-Grade game once where one team were majority Samoan background, the other side Tonga background.
It was full on racist against each other. I heard the Samoans continuously calling the Tongans "coconuts" and not in a laughing way