Consolidation, reclamation and expansion with additional clubs in the NRL

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  1. Stallion

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    The NRL would have been absolutely struggling! That's what would have happened if Souths were not readmitted. Get that in your head and you may see some light ! Your negativity doesn't impress!
     
  2. Stallion

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    No! The NRL can consider themselves extremely lucky!
     
  3. The Great Dane

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    “Likely” is an understatement, they almost certainly would have gone under.

    Beside that, the fact that the biggest ‘success’ story of a Sydney club turning it around was only possible because of a one in a million scenario where a Hollywood A lister came along and was willing to bankroll the club is a huge indictment on the whole argument that if we are just patient they’ll all turn it around in my opinion.

    Also frankly I find the idea that Souths coming good “reinvigorated” the league to be utterly ridiculous and suggest that Stallion get out of his bubble...
     
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  4. The Great Dane

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    Actually the NRL would be much better off if they had kicked Souths straight back out after the dodgy court decision was overturned...

    They’d have one less club in Sydney, they wouldn’t have been forced to rush expansion when there weren’t really any suitable bids and before they were prepared to support an expanded competition.
     
  5. Stallion

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    I'd suggest your bubble needs bursting!
     
  6. Stallion

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    I note your destructive agenda hasn't changed?! Shame. Thought you were actually coming good.Proceed with your negativity and "falling deck of cards" logic or "paper house" logic. It suits you. Weakening an
    envied competition and still not working out why it's envied! Then proceeding to advocate it's dismemberment is a pathetic stance. But that's the 'path' you and a few others have taken. So be it. We continue on with a battle!
     
  7. Perth Red

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    Reality is most of the Syd year clubs are only surviving because of pokies, still. If poor saps ever wake up to the stupity of pouring their dole cheque’s into these machines most nsw clubs would be screwed. It’s kind of sad that most nsw clubs only exist because of gambling addicts.
     
  8. Stallion

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    Those Sydney clubs give immense pleasure and interest to the leisure time of millions of fans outside of Sydney. Something that is continually ignored in some comments!
     
  9. LeagueXIII

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    Real Estate billionaire Harry Triguboff
     
  10. MugaB

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    here come the TIGERS wearing black and gold, all fit and bold
     
  11. Foreign Legion

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    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sp...s-to-tv-rights-expansion-20190321-p516db.html

    Netflix and Stan will decide the fate of Sydney’s nine NRL clubs in any move towards expansion.

    The streaming services have nothing to do with rugby league but, ultimately, the money secured in the next TV rights deal will guide the game. And with consumer money pouring into streaming, there might not be a big pot left for league.

    This situation will influence every decision about the game, including expansion and/or relocation.
    Australian Rugby League Commission chairman Peter Beattie and NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg have declared expansion and the game’s footprint to be at the top of the agenda
    It’s not. Topping the list is what TV money can be secured beyond 2022. Everything falls in line behind it.

    That’s where Netflix and Stan come in.

    The existing five-year NRL broadcast deal is in its second season and is worth $1.8 billion with Channel Nine and Fox Sports sharing the load across free-to-air and pay TV. The cash component is in excess of $300 million a season.

    But free-to-air and pay TV are under siege from streaming platforms. Television executives are concerned by the trend. Viewers are making their own choices. It’s not going to slow down.

    Yes, league rates, but if the networks don’t have the cash to keep paying more for it, they won’t. They can’t.

    Foxtel is trying to get ahead of the trend by offering sport on streaming service Kayo – at between $25 and $35 a month, which is far less than you pay for access to Fox Sports.

    How this will affect overall revenue at Foxtel in the next five to seven years is unknown. But less is less.

    All of this adds up to the strong possibility that the next five-year NRL rights deal from 2023-2027 may be worth LESS than $1.8 billion.

    Which would be disastrous. Clubs would receive lower annual grants, player payments would stagnate. The game would stagnate.



    The ARLC is acutely aware of this; acutely aware operating budgets may fall.

    In all the expansion and relocation debate, there really is only one certainty: there will be a second Brisbane team. It's a no-brainer and the powers that be know it.

    The growing talk about Perth is just that, talk.

    The NRL winces at how much money the AFL has pumped into the GWS Giants and Gold Coast Suns: $100 million each. And rising. The prospect of less, or even the same, TV money will end the hopes of any Perth NRL team. Getting excited about a packed house for a one-off Origin match in a new AFL/cricket stadium will get us nowhere.


    How will it look when Perth play the Titans on a Saturday afternoon?

    The game most likely will not have the luxury of matching the AFL and pump $100 million into a team in a non-heartland state.

    Phil Gould this week spoke about 20 teams in two conferences. In a perfect world, this would be the future. But are there enough good players for that? Is there anywhere near enough cash around for that? Sadly, no.

    Money will drive all decisions and the uncomfortable truth for fans is the Sharks and Manly are the two clubs most vulnerable to relocation as a possible second Brisbane team. To a lesser extent, Wests Tigers. Financial viability, or the lack thereof, will be the only factor that results in a club being moved.


    There is zero appetite among the ARLC to forcibly move a club. Memories of the South Sydney protest in 2000 burn bright. The last thing the game needs is fans marching down George Street.

    The Sharks and Manly have teetered on the edge of financial disaster seemingly forever.

    They continually rely on 11th-hour saves from benefactors and, in the case of the Sharks, promises of developer money for apartments and shops on adjacent land. A story/promise that goes around and around …

    Manly have the Penn family, but how deep is their commitment? They don’t want to pump big money into the Sea Eagles, but can’t part with the club either.


    Wests Tigers looked dreadfully shaky a few years ago when the NRL propped them up. Under former chair Marina Go, the club righted itself. The Balmain side is on life support, but the Wests side is strong. Money from the powerful Wests Ashfield club helps.

    Greenberg has put himself under pressure, declaring he has this season to put together a concrete plan.

    There won’t be one by the end of the season because uncertainty about TV revenue will remain.
     
  12. Stallion

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    An extra game with an 18 team competition will generate more revenue. An extra two clubs will increase junior participation with talent ready to play. And an aim toward a twenty team conference system is positive for the code going forward. Rugby league is a very entertaining sport to watch. People enjoy it! It deserves to genuinely grow and prosper in whatever medium or realm.
     
  13. Mr Spock!

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    Nah.

    Looking at the teams this year most of them have gotten worse. Not sure how long Titans can survive or if Moanly will. There's a real gulf between the top 3-4 clubs and the rest and with the retirement of stars the talent just isn't there.
     
  14. Stallion

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    States the talent scout expert! Lol.
     
  15. titoelcolombiano

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    I can just picture the mascot now ;)
     
  16. T-Boon

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    Balmain Boffs
     
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  18. Stallion

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    States the very guys whom oversaw the destruction of this competition. Mind you they didn't agree with it but they pandered to those in control. News ltd.
     
  19. titoelcolombiano

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    How can they have overseen the destruction of the code if it is not destroyed? It is bigger today than it has ever been.
     
  20. Perth Red

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    There are more holes in that article than in Stallion's addled brain lol
     

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