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Corey Norman??

Saint_JimmyG

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The leadership group actually approached Nathan Brown and told him that they wanted Ben Rogers as 5/8 instead of Soward.

I’m aware.

History shows that in two short years, Soward would be a premiership winner while Rogers would face assault charges after a career curtailed by injury.

Such is life.
 

Frank Facer

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From memory it was Gasnier who pushed for him instead of Soward.
And when Gasnier came back, I recall Soward saying in an interview something like Gasnier would have to fit into how we play now. Gasnier was playing outside of Soward when he returned and Soward could not set him up well as he was too afraid to go to the line and commit defenders to create space for his centre. Gas even went to the opposite side of the field to try and get some decent ball. I think Soward was a major factor in Gasnier not regaining his form that he had before he left to play French rugby.

Another thing to consider is, maybe Gasnier wasn't enjoying playing outside of Soward and that was a factor in him retiring early?
 

gitano

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And when Gasnier came back, I recall Soward saying in an interview something like Gasnier would have to fit into how we play now. Gasnier was playing outside of Soward when he returned and Soward could not set him up well as he was too afraid to go to the line and commit defenders to create space for his centre. Gas even went to the opposite side of the field to try and get some decent ball. I think Soward was a major factor in Gasnier not regaining his form that he had before he left to play French rugby.

Another thing to consider is, maybe Gasnier wasn't enjoying playing outside of Soward and that was a factor in him retiring early?
Normally a half running to the line helps a centre no doubt.

Gasnier was unique though. He was never a hole runner, he preferred early ball and standing his man up. Soward's style complimented it.

Gaz came back from France half the physical presence he was when he left. Everyone wants to talk footwork when they mention him, but it was his size that allowed him to beat people. Some acceleration too obviously.

Gaz was never the same after the ruptured pec in my opinion, but he came back from Paris a completely different athlete.
 

blacksafake

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Looking at the replay of the Dufty try the other day I noticed how quickly Norman got there in support. He surprised me with his speed.
 

Brutalitops

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I really like Widdop. So far I'm liking Norman. He's definitely gelling quite well with Hunt since Widdop went out, that Doggies game in particular they looked like they had played every games together for 6 years.

But the speed with which people are throwing Widdop under the bus is absolutely shocking. Always gave his all for us, one of the most naturally talented footballers in the league, absolutely among the best 5/8s in the NRL the last few years. But because he never delivered us a premiership that already appears to have been forgotten.

Playing for the Red V is a great honour, and always will be. Sometimes, I wouldn't wish our fans on any player though.
 

getsmarty

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Corey Norman with nothing to prove ahead of St George Illawarra's clash with former club Parramatta
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    Moving on: Dragons five-eighth Corey Norman says he doesn't have anything to prove to his former club Parramatta. Picture: Adam McLean

  • Corey Norman says he does not have anything to prove to his former club ahead of St George Illawarra's clash with Parramatta on Sunday.

    The Dragons have the opportunity to become the first visiting team to conquer the Eels at the new Bankwest Stadium. But to do so they will need to overcome their horrific record against the blue and golds.

    St George Illawarra have lost seven of their last eight matches against Parramatta and will be desperate to bounce back after their Anzac Day defeat to the Sydney Roosters which punctured their four-game winning run.

    With St George Illawarra's 10-day turnaround between the Roosters and Eels matches, Ben Hunt will likely be fit to play for the Dragons alongside halves partner Norman after suffering a contusion to his shoulder against the reigning premiers.

    Norman has been outstanding for the Dragons this season.

    He has won St George Illawarra two games with clutch field goals and has settled into the red V's spine alongside Hunt since captain Gareth Widdop suffered his potentially season-ending shoulder injury.

    And Norman told the Sydney Morning Herald he would be focused simply on securing the two points for the Dragons rather than any external pressure around returning to Parramatta. The Eels earned the wooden spoon last season before Norman was squeezed out.

    "I don't really have to prove anything to them, to be honest," he said.

    "What I need to do is my job for the Dragons and we need to get the win.

    "Things like that happen in life and you just move on. It worked out well for [both parties]. That's about as much as I thought about it, to be honest. It's actually good and I'm looking forward to it.

    "Who knows? I will probably get booed. We'll see what I get. I'm looking forward to it. I don't take that stuff too seriously, so I'd laugh and get on with the job.

    "That new stadium looks unreal. It's going to be packed again and the atmosphere will be good."

    "Their game [against the Tigers] was outstanding. The stadium looks unreal. It's going to be a good crowd there and a good atmosphere. I'm really looking forward to getting back there."

    The Dragons could also have Jack de Belin included in their line-up should the 28-year-old be successful in his bid to have his standing down under the NRL's new no-fault policy overturned in the Federal Court this week.

    The NRL though are likely to block de Belin being named in the Dragons' official 21-man squad if a court decision in his case against the governing body does not come before Tuesday's team list deadline.

    That would mean the Dragons would be required to apply for a special exemption to play de Belin against the Eels.

https://www.theleader.com.au/story/6094666/norman-with-nothing-to-prove-ahead-of-eels/?cs=1633
 

Saint_JimmyG

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2008?
Geez mate, you've got me thinking....
I had hair.
A flat stomach.
Teeth.
Less flatulence.
A healthy liver.
Earned the big bucks.
Seems such a long time ago!

May I do a comparison?

I didn’t have hair.
Overweight
Had my “Bucky Beavers” (still do)
If only farting was an Olympic sport, I’d be a household name alongside Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps.
Liver was (and is) considered fatty.
Was in my third (out of four and a half) year unemployment stint due to many circumstances outside my control.

A few other comments regarding that time in 2008:

1. I sprained my left ankle very badly following the Dragons defeat against the Chooks in the last round of that year. While walking down Martin Place, I slipped head over arse on the footpath near whatever bar it is diagonally opposite Channel 7. It had been raining and I was wearing a new pair of red/white Nike high tops which are deeply shithouse in wet conditions. After catching a taxi home in agony, my ankle was akin to a tenenrous balloon the next morning.

Fast forward to a wonderful early October evening in 2010, and I’m falling on my bum a couple of times wearing the same shoes while trying to leave ANZ after the Dragons have won its 16 premiership.

Funnily enough, this time I didn’t have a care in the world,

2. in the same seven day timespan, I was “skimmed” by a dodgy ATM in Spit Junction. Fortunately, I noticed this early on while checking my bank statement. Going to Canada is on my “bucket list” but I haven’t been there...yet.

One day though,

Anyway, the perpetrator seemingly attempted to drain my savings and purportedly did so from “Little America”. Thankfully, due to some understanding from my back (St. George...who else?), my funds were expeditiously refunded in a short period, so all’s well that ends well.

3. The Dragons lose to the team I hate the most: bloody Manly.

At their cesspool too.

Not good.

It was a flogging, Gasnier’s (apparent) last game before buggering off to rugby yawn-ion, Rogers has a shocker, and there I am trying to traverse the Mary Try Stand hoping on one leg because of my injury. Sea Eagle fans failing badly with childish remarks; myself making correlations between inbreeding, dental health care, and of course, the Manly Football Club and its fan base.

I’m sure you can picture my disposition. It certainly wasn’t a kind few days.
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

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Mate apparently you are only a shadow of the man that you once were ( and your not the only one ) but I believe I can help you out with one of your problems . . . .

Thanks mate but l blame my father.

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Me as a child ........
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my early 70's look..............
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Fast forward to 2019 ...........

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Me worry............. Dragons to WIN!
 

Old Kogarah Boy 1

First Grade
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May I do a comparison?

I didn’t have hair.
Overweight
Had my “Bucky Beavers” (still do)
If only farting was an Olympic sport, I’d be a household name alongside Usain Bolt or Michael Phelps.
Liver was (and is) considered fatty.
Was in my third (out of four and a half) year unemployment stint due to many circumstances outside my control.

A few other comments regarding that time in 2008:

1. I sprained my left ankle very badly following the Dragons defeat against the Chooks in the last round of that year. While walking down Martin Place, I slipped head over arse on the footpath near whatever bar it is diagonally opposite Channel 7. It had been raining and I was wearing a new pair of red/white Nike high tops which are deeply shithouse in wet conditions. After catching a taxi home in agony, my ankle was akin to a tenenrous balloon the next morning.

Fast forward to a wonderful early October evening in 2010, and I’m falling on my bum a couple of times wearing the same shoes while trying to leave ANZ after the Dragons have won its 16 premiership.

Funnily enough, this time I didn’t have a care in the world,

2. in the same seven day timespan, I was “skimmed” by a dodgy ATM in Spit Junction. Fortunately, I noticed this early on while checking my bank statement. Going to Canada is on my “bucket list” but I haven’t been there...yet.

One day though,

Anyway, the perpetrator seemingly attempted to drain my savings and purportedly did so from “Little America”. Thankfully, due to some understanding from my back (St. George...who else?), my funds were expeditiously refunded in a short period, so all’s well that ends well.

3. The Dragons lose to the team I hate the most: bloody Manly.

At their cesspool too.

Not good.

It was a flogging, Gasnier’s (apparent) last game before buggering off to rugby yawn-ion, Rogers has a shocker, and there I am trying to traverse the Mary Try Stand hoping on one leg because of my injury. Sea Eagle fans failing badly with childish remarks; myself making correlations between inbreeding, dental health care, and of course, the Manly Football Club and its fan base.

I’m sure you can picture my disposition. It certainly wasn’t a kind few days.

Great story, mate ................ Thanks for posting it.
OKB
 

getsmarty

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KICKOFF: Norman and Moses a battle of star potential
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TIME IS NOW: "At 28, and with two more years to run on his contract, it looks as if Corey Norman could finally deliver on what he's always promised." Picture: NRL Imagery


WHEN Corey Norman was swamped by teammates after nailing the match-winning field goal against Brisbane in round three he shouted "that's why you signed me" - or so certain media reports go.

Hang around Norman and you'll know it's entirely plausible and was no doubt said with tongue in cheek - as are most things the noted larrikin says. He enjoys a piss-take, even of himself.

Norman's sense of humour aside, the reality is the Dragons signed him because he was available after being deemed surplus to requirements by the Eels at the end of last season.

He'll play against his former club for the first time on Sunday. As he's said himself he'll likely be "spraying" some of his former teammates, and copping it in return with good humour.

Still, you can expect the battle between him and Mitchell Moses to be a fierce one. It's well known they didn't gel as a pair last season. One seemingly had to go and the Eels chose Moses just a year after Norman had spearheaded their Eels charge to the top four.

Moses joined the Eels midway through that season to make the only two finals appearances of his career thus far.

The fact just a year later it wasn't working and one of them was forced to move on continued what's been a frustrating run of false starts in both their careers - frustrating because of the obvious talent both possess.

Kickoff can vividly remember Norman's NRL debut with Brisbane - this chilled 19-year-old chewing gum and setting up tries like he'd been doing it for years.

He looked a star in the making. He's seemingly been that way ever since, producing flashes of brilliance and brief explosions of form only for off-field incidents - hiccups more than atrocities - to trip him up.

Dragons fans, and management, were given a reminder of that when an old video resurfaced upon his arrival in Wollongong in the preseason.

It was something he had to rehash on a dozen occasions when he first fronted the media in his new colours. He took, and answered, the questions well.

Most indications are that he has turned the corner and, at 28 and with two more years to run on his contract, it looks as if he could finally deliver on what he's always promised. His early-season form points to that fact and he may yet show the Eels they backed the wrong horse.

Moses has certainly started the season in good form as well, but it's nothing new. Like Norman he's produced isolated runs of form in the past - it's normally coincided with him being off-contract as he is now.

In fact most of the talk that's surrounded Moses throughout his entire career has centred on contract negotiations - that and his potential, on which most of those negotiations have been based.

His arrival at Parramatta came amid a false narrative of being unwanted by the Tigers. Truth was the Tigers were moving heaven and earth for him and Luke Brooks long before either had even debuted in first grade.

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TIME'S RIGHT: Mitchell Moses finally has a team to himself, there's no more excuses. Picture: AAP Image

Their manager Isaac Moses had both perpetually in the shop window with price tags many considered inflated. The irony was they couldn't click as a pair - much like Moses and Norman couldn't.

In their defence, they came into first grade in the wildly unstable reigns of Mick Potter and Jason Taylor but you couldn't argue the Tigers didn't make a host of major decisions around accommodating Moses (just ask Taylor). Now the Eels have done the same in moving Norman on.

It may yet be win-win. Moses finally has a team all to himself and, false starts aside, he's only 24. Norman has found a long-term home and looks the goods with a side eyeing a top-four finish.

They'll go head-to-head on Sunday. The last laugh is still to be had. But ask anyone about Norman and they'll tell you - he loves a good laugh.


https://www.illawarramercury.com.au...and-moses-a-battle-of-star-potential/?cs=3713
 

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