Corona Virus and NRL Games

[jeffdragon]

There are a lot of people saying why the nrl should start again so early with what's going on
If like most of us you are a fan, that doesn't have anything to do with the teams or involved with them.
If they can get it off the ground again safely. Good for them
Racing is still going and hasn't had any cases.

 

[TruSaint]

NRL comeback plan in fresh doubt as QLD premier says she’ll stop clubs travelling interstate

QLD PREMIER POUR SCORN ON NRL PLAN

Queensland premier Annastacia Palaszczuk has put the NRL’s plans to resume on May 28 in serious doubt, stating that any decision made on the competition resuming will be based on the support of doctors.

Palaszczuk said she has not spoken to the NRL about rebooting the competition. She said she would wait for advice from healthcare professionals. She also said she would not give NRL sides from Queensland exemptions to travel to NSW.

“There has been no discussions with me about it,” she said.

“I think we all have to abide by the same rules and I think we have to have very clear health advice about this.

“I would like to see the footy returned as much as everyone else.

“I would love to see the State of Origin played this year.

“But, unless we get firm health advice that it is OK, I think it sends the wrong message to the public.

“They would not meet the criteria, and secondly – as I said – we would need to have clear health advice.

“And I say to all the sporting organisations, let’s just take a break, let’s get this ‘flattening the curve’ under control.

“And then we can talk to the health officers about getting advice.

“Let’s not rush this. Let’s take this slowly.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...t/news-story/e1a25548baeaea6caff753cb09dab901

 

[Frank Facer]

Hey Everyone, I suggest you all go to *removed* and do as much research into the Coronavirus and everything associated with it, as you possibly can. If you do so, you will know that you can not trust the mainstream media, government or so called experts. You have to all educate yourselves.

Research 5G as well.

 

[muzby]

You’re an anti-vaxxer, aren’t you Frank?

 

[BLM01]

Hey Everyone, I suggest you all go to *removed* and do as much research into the Coronavirus and everything associated with it, as you possibly can. If you do so, you will know that you can not trust the mainstream media, government or so called experts. You have to all educate yourselves.

Research 5G as well.

I agree with you only to the fact I believe the figures and yes do you own research.

.. it’s those stats and the make up of those alone on how they are sold via media and measured or can be broken down and rationalised in context to other Outbreaks, illnesses and deaths just here alone , even the 1000+ casualties of flu in 2018 / 2029 season in Aust

 

[Frank Facer]

You’re an anti-vaxxer, aren’t you Frank?

Of course I am and if you did your own research into vaccines you would be too. lol I foresee forced vaccinations world wide, but if the vaccines really do work, than those who are vaccinated shouldn't be worried about catching anything from those who aren't vaccinated. You will probably just keep believing what ever the mainstream media, governments and so called experts tell you.

BTW the term anti-vaxer is bigotry, meaning that those who calls others anti-vaxxer are intolerant of those who have done their research into vaccines and hold views and beliefs that they disagree with and when they call others anit-vaxxer they do so in a derogatory manor.

 

[Willow]

BTW the term anti-vaxer is bigotry, meaning that those who calls others anti-vaxxer are intolerant of those who have done their research into vaccines and hold views and beliefs that they disagree with and when they call others anit-vaxxer they do so in a derogatory manor.

So you believe you are suffering discrimination. I feel for anyone who has to take a peek inside your head.

 

[Dragon David]

We've been on a high rise site in Brisbane for the last 3 weeks. Working on the roof. The job has slowed down because they are limiting the number of people allowed in the lifts and there are more exclusion zones, so you have to be extra organised (sometimes takes a good 20 minutes to get in and another 20 minutes to get out).

I've got the boys regularly spraying their hands with sanitiser as well as wearing masks. But there are others who don't care as much. Social distancing is difficult at the best of times.

Only a few more days to go on the job. Will be sticking to domestic and service work for the foreseeable future, that way we have a lot more control over the site.

I only mentioned it because Wayne Pearce used construction as an example of industries that are still open. I agree with him in principle, but feel that we need to raise the bar much higher before they can start isolating players from the public.

 

[Dragon David]

If those who are involved in determining a start date for rugby league to come back on the airwaves believe that 28 May is the date, they could be thinking that by then the pandemic would be more or less under control and the players can run onto the field and tackle each other. Well, considering that there will need to be pre games training and skills and set moves etc to enable the guys to get back into the swing of things, they will need to start doing this in say 3 weeks time - which is putting the guys in close touch with one another too soon.

If there are no pre games training and the players just run onto the field on 28 May, at the end of the comp whoever wins it will have a hollow victory because I am sure that the losers will be saying they were not properly prepared for the games. No doubt McGregor will be one of them to say this.

 

[Frank Facer]

If those who are involved in determining a start date for rugby league to come back on the airwaves believe that 28 May is the date, they could be thinking that by then the pandemic would be more or less under control and the players can run onto the field and tackle each other. Well, considering that there will need to be pre games training and skills and set moves etc to enable the guys to get back into the swing of things, they will need to start doing this in say 3 weeks time - which is putting the guys in close touch with one another too soon.

If there are no pre games training and the players just run onto the field on 28 May, at the end of the comp whoever wins it will have a hollow victory because I am sure that the losers will be saying they were not properly prepared for the games. No doubt McGregor will be one of them to say this.

I am very sceptical of them playing again by May 28. The NRL wants to, but I believe it will be blocked.

 

[Dragonslayer]

IMO the May 28 start is the only viable start date for the NRL. After then, and as each week passes the opportunity for the big $$$ games becomes more remote. This is the big driver. The GF and SOO are the income cash cows for the NRL. Without them, the whole sordid fiasco of mismanagement will again raise its head.

How could a premiership be decided on playing 15 games or less, plus allowing for the 2 games already played?

 

[muzby]

Of course I am and if you did your own research into vaccines you would be too. lol I foresee forced vaccinations world wide, but if the vaccines really do work, than those who are vaccinated shouldn't be worried about catching anything from those who aren't vaccinated. You will probably just keep believing what ever the mainstream media, governments and so called experts tell you.

What a rather defensive post from a simple question.

I’m glad my kids won’t catch the measles, rubella or polio

What logical reason can anyone put forward to say that kids should be put under such risk as catching any of those?

And I do love my flu jab each year. I got the proper flu about 15 years ago and I completely knocked me about.

What logical reason could I have for wanting to experience that again? Particularly as I’m considered high risk for complications from it.

BTW the term anti-vaxer is bigotry, meaning that those who calls others anti-vaxxer are intolerant of those who have done their research into vaccines and hold views and beliefs that they disagree with and when they call others anit-vaxxer they do so in a derogatory manor.

I apologise. I didn’t realise that was your word and that only other a**i-v*****s can call each other that.

What’s the more politically correct version to use? Natural-selectionists? Virus-hosts?

 

[Willow]

Once we get easy and accessible testing mechanisms in place, then virus control mechanisms will become 10x easier. At that point I'm willing to say we've turned the corner.

And btw, and I'm fully aware that forummers already know this, please beware of scammers selling testing kits. If it's not from a trusted source, then ignore it.

By trusted sources, I mean government outlets, doctors, chemists... and my cousin Freddy.

 

[Frank Facer]

1984

Covid 1984

 

[Crush]

What a rather defensive post from a simple question.

I’m glad my kids won’t catch the measles, rubella or polio

What logical reason can anyone put forward to say that kids should be put under such risk as catching any of those?

And I do love my flu jab each year. I got the proper flu about 15 years ago and I completely knocked me about.

What logical reason could I have for wanting to experience that again? Particularly as I’m considered high risk for complications from it.


I apologise. I didn’t realise that was your word and that only other a**i-v*****s can call each other that.

What’s the more politically correct version to use? Natural-selectionists? Virus-hosts?

I don't do flu shots anymore. Had my last one 3 years ago and it made me sick as a dog. I was completely knocked out for weeks.
I know doctors state that you can't get the flu from the flu shot which may be true but I got awfully sick just after my last jab.

 

[Frank Facer]

Here is a very famous quote from Benjamin Franklin, who is one of America's most famous presidents, that is applicable to today's situation.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

JFK also mentioned the same quote in his famous speech that some title JFK's Secret Society Speech.

 

[Frank Facer]

I don't do flu shots anymore. Had my last one 3 years ago and it made me sick as a dog. I was completely knocked out for weeks.
I know doctors state that you can't get the flu from the flu shot which may be true but I got awfully sick just after my last jab.

I have never had a flu shot and I can't remember the last time I had the flu.

 

[muzby]

Here is a very famous quote from Benjamin Franklin, who is one of America's most famous presidents, that is applicable to today's situation.

Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

JFK also mentioned the same quote in his famous speech that some title JFK's Secret Society Speech.

I’m not really sure the quote is as relevant to your argument as you think.

One definition of liberty is the freedom to make your own choices. If people choose to make lifelong (not temporary) choices to achieve safety from a killer disease - how does that fit in?

In addition to that, if vaccination has liberated humankind of diseases like polio how does that work with your argument?

 

[Frank Facer]

I’m not really sure the quote is as relevant to your argument as you think.

One definition of liberty is the freedom to make your own choices. If people choose to make lifelong (not temporary) choices to achieve safety from a killer disease - how does that fit in?

In addition to that, if vaccination has liberated humankind of diseases like polio how does that work with your argument?

Our country and many if not most others are all in Lock Down, which is a term used for locking down a prison. I think it is a massive over reaction to something that is not as life threatening as the media, governments and so called experts have led us to believe. I think it is insane the measures that the governments have exerted on our societies. We have lost our liberty in the process. People have not been given the choice. Also the economic ramifications are going to be extreme, to say the least.

People are not even allowed to visit their friends and their families. They have not been given the choice. Businesses are going broke due to these measures. They have not been given the choice. People have been laid off work, they have not been given the choice.

If you want to self isolate due to your fears, then that should be your choice. If you want to social distance due to your fears, that should be your choice, but it should not be the governments and police forcing people to do these things.

Some say that plumbing has been the major cause of many diseases being greatly reduced or eradicated.

People die from the flu every year and from what I am seeing, the numbers are not very different from previous years. Based on my recent research, they are attributing deaths to Coronavirus that aren't really due to coronavirus. Add to that they are now not resuscitating those over 60 or not providing ventilators to them. That would have to lead to increased deaths. Based on my recent research Coronavirus is extremely unlikely to kill those under the age of 60 and those over 60 that it does kill usually have other aliments that contributed to their deaths.

I believe that strengthening the immune system is a very good idea.

As per usual, you go along with the political correct narrative. lol

 

[muzby]

Our country and many if not most others are all in Lock Down, which is a term used for locking down a prison. I think it is a massive over reaction to something that is not as life threatening as the media, governments and so called experts have led us to believe. I think it is insane the measures that the governments have exerted on our societies. We have lost our liberty in the process. People have not been given the choice. Also the economic ramifications are going to be extreme, to say the least.

People are not even allowed to visit their friends and their families. They have not been given the choice. Businesses are going broke due to these measures. They have not been given the choice. People have been laid off work, they have not been given the choice.

If you want to self isolate due to your fears, then that should be your choice. If you want to social distance due to your fears, that should be your choice, but it should not be the governments and police forcing people to do these things.

Some say that plumbing has been the major cause of many diseases being greatly reduced or eradicated.

People die from the flu every year and from what I am seeing, the numbers are not very different from previous years. Based on my recent research, they are attributing deaths to Coronavirus that aren't really due to coronavirus. Add to that they are now not resuscitating those over 60 or not providing ventilators to them. That would have to lead to increased deaths. Based on my recent research Coronavirus is extremely unlikely to kill those under the age of 60 and those over 60 that it does kill usually have other aliments that contributed to their deaths.

I believe that strengthening the immune system is a very good idea.

As per usual, you go along with the political correct narrative. lol

Out of curiosity, are the social media posts from people in places around the globe where this has hit hard also part of some mainstream media conspiracy?

Couple of other things to ponder.. Given the political issues across the globe, why are traditional enemies suffering the same issues? If it was fake wouldn’t one be calling the other out?

And economically, what do governments have to gain from lock downs? They’re printing money to keep things afloat.

Outside of simple “don’t believe what you hear” messages from conspiracy theorists, I’m yet to hear or see any valid arguments as to how this is a fake issue..