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Perth Red

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What's the point of buying a newspaper if you cannot use it to create an environment that furthers your business interests?

You could ask whats the point of paying commentators handsomely to spend all the game being negative about it and telling us how bad it is or how bad it is being ref’d to the point we no longer want to watch it.

it seems to be a Ch9 thing!
 

TheFrog

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You could ask whats the point of paying commentators handsomely to spend all the game being negative about it and telling us how bad it is or how bad it is being ref’d to the point we no longer want to watch it.

it seems to be a Ch9 thing!
You're talking about Gus obviously. Quite often (certainly not always) he is right (which is to say I agree with him), but then he won't put his hand up to take on a leadership role in the sport. He prefers to stay safe in his media role.
 

King hit

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You're talking about Gus obviously. Quite often (certainly not always) he is right (which is to say I agree with him), but then he won't put his hand up to take on a leadership role in the sport. He prefers to stay safe in his media role.
Yet he took on a very challenging head position at Penrith and lead the ARL fight
 

TheFrog

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Could you give us an example of something you think he is right about?
I think the 2018 30+ penalties a game crackdown was ridiculous and achieved nothing. Also the way refs have a million voices in their ears, a situation that led to the fiasco in last year's GF. And he's been proven right in how the NRL handle its financial side as well. Having said that he flushed a lot of money down the toilet as Penrith boss.
 
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I’ll be very suprised if nrl live pass subscriptions reach 6 percent of our population but my point was to highlight how ridiculous it is mentioning Netflix in the same breath as the nrl digital rights. The market just is not there for the nrl and Kayo already gives better value than live pass. The nrl without free to air tv will end up like rugby union the game will not become more valuable taking the product off free to air, any train of thought along those lines is delusional. You lose a shit ton of sponsor value straight away for one thing, secondly you lose the interest of a shit load of casual fans.

So just because that is how the situation is now means it will always be like that eh? You should go work in the programming department for Channel 9 with that logic.
 

T-Boon

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One of the appealing aspects of digital is that if they wanted it could be marketed to British or NZ RL fans or Australians living elsewhere and they could subscribed if they want.

It doesn't have the limiting factor that Fox and Nine has that 20mill population within Australia is its max reach.

If the NRL was going to partner with someone partner with ESL or that dude in Canada with deep pockets.
 

T-Boon

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I think the 2018 30+ penalties a game crackdown was ridiculous and achieved nothing.

If the NRL/REFs stuck with that we would be in a way better position than we are now in that the coaches would have eventually got the message and we would be seeing better attack and more tries because they would be less likely to do the dirty red zone infringements they do.

Gould is ALWAYS wrong.
 

Timmah

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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/who-your-nrl-team-will-play-twice-in-2020-20200510-p54rkb.html

These are the non-negotiables. The 14 NRL match-ups that are all but guaranteed to be played twice in a significantly reduced 2020 season, as the broadcast partners prepare to sit down and nut out the draw over the next week.

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Latrell Mitchell versus his old club, Wayne Bennett against the Broncos, the grand final replay - they are just some of the blockbuster games that are expected to feature twice in a shortened 20-round season.

Clubs are anxiously waiting to find out who they will have to square off against, with the NRL to consider broadcast preferences, ratings, rivalries and competition fairness when allocating the five teams that each side will have to play twice.

Under the current broadcast arrangement, Channel Nine gets 65 picks (30 placed) of the 192 game season - selections that were made last August in preparation for the 2020 draw. That is expected to be reduced proportionally to the length of season. The NRL also picks 10 free-to-air games, while Fox Sports gets to provide its preferred time slot for certain games.

There were 12 fixtures that were scheduled to be played on free-to-air TV twice in the original draw, which were deemed the most valuable to the Nine network given they indicated a desire to broadcast both legs of the fixture.

Because Nine was asked to make its picks before the finals, its selections didn't include the Roosters-Raiders grand final rematch. It was later added to Nine's schedule by the NRL, who is given the authority to select 10 free-to-air games on top of Nine's 65.


While some may come as a surprise, Nine often choose two teams from different states to maximise ratings by reaching a wider audience.

It's why the Melbourne Storm, North Queensland Cowboys and Brisbane Broncos feature so regularly on free-to-air TV. The Parramatta Eels and South Sydney Rabbitohs are also a big hit with broadcasters.

Other key match-ups outside the non-negotiable list that are expected to be included twice include Valentine Holmes against the Sharks and the rescheduled traditional ANZAC Day game between the Roosters and Dragons.

The Herald looked at Nine's selections from the original draw and factored in television ratings and rivalries to compile a list of the teams that will most likely square off against each other twice in 2020. See chart below.

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RLPA boss Clint Newton was under immense pressure a fortnight ago when players began openly questioning his resolve in the midst of negotiations, concerned that he didn’t have the stomach to get dirty with Peter V’landys and the NRL.

So much so that several of the most outspoken RLPA delegates began sourcing external legal and financial advice, including from one of the biggest names in Australian media.


It boiled over when one high profile player voiced his frustrations at Newton while on a phone hook-up with 20-odd players on the day this newspaper broke the story of the planned player revolt.

All was forgiven when Newton managed to land the 80 per cent pay deal, but some players still have doubts over the former Newcastle and Melbourne forward.

While none of the players wants to see Newton lose the job he only received six weeks ago, there is a belief that he could benefit from some assistance as he continues to gain experience and learn lessons along the way.

Momentum is gathering from a section of the playing group to appoint a three-man committee to advise the RLPA, with former Nine boss David Gyngell atop the list.

Opportunity knocks
The NRL has moved salary cap auditor Richard Gardham out of the integrity unit and into his own office. Gardham is the beneficiary of chief financial officer Tony Crawford's demise, with the salary cap auditor taking on the added responsibility of running the game's finances.

Frizell free to go
After ending its six week contract freeze this week, the NRL finally approved Tyson Frizell’s contract with the Newcastle Knights from next season. Whispers won’t go away that he may be in the Hunter before the season’s out.

Donaghy in demand
Speaking of whispers, there’s strong mail around that Melbourne Storm chief executive Dave Donaghy will be departing at the end of the season. It’s unlikely he will be the next NRL CEO, but there are people in high places at head office who want him calling the shots alongside Andrew Abdo, or whoever it may be who end up as Todd Greenberg’s successor. But don't discard the Broncos, who are looking at Donaghy as Paul White's replacement at the end of the year.

Storm of protest
Albury council’s stance against the Melbourne Storm last week hasn’t been lost on a number of fuming clubs, who have scratched the New South Wales border town from their future plans.

The council often makes pitches to clubs to host NRL games - with Manly taking a game to the region in 2015. Don’t expect to see much NRL action in Albury over the next few years.

November bonanza
As revealed in this column three weeks ago, the International Rugby League is making plans around a three-game series between Tonga and New Zealand to run parallel to the State of Origin series in November.

Another idea on the table is potentially forming a Great Britain side to compete in a range of Test matches, using players based in Australia given the uncertainty around international travel restrictions.

James Graham, Tom Burgess, John Bateman, Josh Hodgson, George Williams, Elliott Whitehead, Ryan Sutton and Ryan Hall have all played in the NRL, while Matthew Johns’ two sons, Cooper and Jack, would also qualify given their Welsh heritage.

While the NRL broadcast value is set to drop in the coming weeks, the international game could receive a boost on the back of the success that followed the 2017 World Cup.

IRL director Troy Grant, who is also a member of the Project Apollo team, will meet with broadcasters to discuss the future of the international game.

Testing times
A number of potential rule changes for 2020 were put to the coaches in a vote recently. They included the potential for a 10-man interchange system, the introduction of an 18th man to be used as a replacement for a player concussed, drinks break at the 20 minute mark and the increase of game day squad sizes.

Fourteen of the 16 coaches took part, with the majority voting against the changes, bar one. There’s support among the coaches to carry an 18th man on the bench, who can only be used if a player leaves the field with a concussion as a result of foul play from the opposition that is placed on report.
 

mongoose

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channel 9 didn't want to show the grand final replay cause its the Raiders, f**k they are merkins.

Such a valuable asset to the game ....
 

Greenfields

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channel 9 didn't want to show the grand final replay cause its the Raiders, f**k they are merkins.
They pass on a lot of big games in favour of their pet clubs. Makes sense they’d prioritise ratings but they can’t come out like they did a few weeks ago and say how much they care about the game.
 
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Perth Red

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Alrght sure mate, NRL live pass will grow to Netflix size one day.

Very strawman of you. It doesnt need to be the size of netflix to give NRL a better and more secure revenue. It needs around 800k subscribers paying $20 a month. The way to achieve that is to increase the games popularity and following.
 
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They pass on a lot of big games in favour of their pet clubs. Makes sense they’d prioritise ratings but they can’t come out like they did a few weeks ago and say how much they care about the game.

I have to agree with you. They'd rather show say their pet teams play, even when you can tell before hand it is likely to be a slaughter (as one team is in far better form than the other) or it s a cellar dwellar battle than a GF replay. Nine could not pick a winner in a one horse race in my book.
 

Saxon

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I think the 2018 30+ penalties a game crackdown was ridiculous and achieved nothing.
That happened once. And in that game (Sharks / Storm) both the refs and the players were trying to assert dominance - the players going "they can't penalise us to death" and the refs going "yes, we can".
On the whole it was working well and the actual infringements were reducing. But Gould got on his high hiorse and Greenbug folded..
 

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