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Crisis rocks Parramatta club as director quits

Poupou Escobar

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It's not a secret among some circles. That's not to say it is my place to mention it on LU.

Bullshit.

The press has nothing new since the story broke which is why they're going to outsiders like Hilditch.

They got their story from Duncan, and now he's on the outside they're not getting any more details.

They can't even find a new photo to run.
 

spiderdan

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Kearney was announced as Eels coach about a month after the Wallabies played in South Africa, which is when Osborne stated he was going to sign him.

Obviously Anderson was already on his way out then and of course he wouldn't have been consulted on recruitment.

But that doesn't mean he wasn't responsible for recruitment/retention earlier than that.

What kind of coach would join a club where he doesn't have a say in recruitment, besides shit one?
da still hadn't left and was still being assured of his spot at the same time as ossie was meeting qc about coming to parra. the fact ossie has stated they wanted qc and da wasn't sold on the idea but ossie still kept going for him tells me he didn't enjoy full support.
 

Poupou Escobar

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The reality is that any sponsor, whether or not they had a member on the board of cirectors, has serious doubts over their ongoing association when claims of this nature are made and then proven.

And it wouldn't mean Duncan was lying, it just means that opinions can change depending on the circumstances.

What's going to change?

He was on the inside and said they would continue to sponsor the club. Now he's on the outside he's not going to learn anything new, so why would he change his mind?
 

ParraAds

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What's going to change?

He was on the inside and said they would continue to sponsor the club. Now he's on the outside he's not going to learn anything new, so why would he change his mind?

That's specious reasoning to suggest that he had to know what was going on just because he was on the inside. Not sure if being at a montly board meeting constitutes the 'inside' in terms of the day to day running of the club where Osborne and the 'alleged' harrassment, loans, creative book keeping, affair etc were taking place.
 

Poupou Escobar

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da still hadn't left and was still being assured of his spot at the same time as ossie was meeting qc about coming to parra. the fact ossie has stated they wanted qc and da wasn't sold on the idea but ossie still kept going for him tells me he didn't enjoy full support.

I think it's pretty obvious the board had no confidence in him - they sacked him with a year to run.

Again, if your CEO is signing expensive players you don't want then why hang around?
 

Poupou Escobar

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That's specious reasoning to suggest that he had to know what was going on just because he was on the inside.

You're missing the point.

Whatever he knew while he was on the inside (even if it was very little), he's not going to know any more now that he's an outsider.

Whether or not he knew the full story is beside the point; if he didn't know it then he sure as shit won't know it now.
 

ParraAds

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You're missing the point.

Whatever he knew while he was on the inside (even if it was very little), he's not going to know any more now that he's an outsider.

Whether or not he knew the full story is beside the point; if he didn't know it then he sure as shit won't know it now.

Isn't that why there's an investigation going on? To get to the bottom and inform those in power so they can make a call on it?

He's obviously been there long enough to know he wants nothing to do with the place personally, and depending on how serious these allegations turn out to be then it might be enough for him to pull out professionally as well.

Sure, it would have to be something drastic for that to happen, but nothing would surprise me, and I think the journo was within their rights to mention it.
 

Delboy

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I have it on good authority that the only player Kearney was responsible in signing was Chris Walker, which was only after Eric decided to leave and he took a chance as he was about the only back left unsigned.

So DA can take credit for Maitua at least, you can tell the sort of player SK looks for, and that is why we have rebuilt and also why things are done on the quiet. DA had full recruitment responsibilities until the so called axe fell.
 

Poupou Escobar

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Isn't that why there's an investigation going on? To get to the bottom and inform those in power so they can make a call on it?

Bless your little heart.

Do you really think there's an investigation going on?

He's obviously been there long enough to know he wants nothing to do with the place personally, and depending on how serious these allegations turn out to be then it might be enough for him to pull out professionally as well.

Well I'll never say never but I doubt anything is going to come out that isn't out already. About the biggest crime so far is unprofessionalism, and Duncan was obviously already aware of that.

Sure, it would have to be something drastic for that to happen, but nothing would surprise me, and I think the journo was within their rights to mention it.

Well a journo's job is to stir up trouble and get as close to libel as they can without needing to issue a retraction. Of course they're within their rights to do their job.

But outside of this forum it's a bit of a non story. People who don't like the board are having a feeding frenzy but everyone else is meh. Most league fans are more concerned with what happens on the field so it's good that none of this is a distraction.

If it happened during the season it would be lucky to get more than one article (and only one run of that photo with Osborne on the phone outside the leagues club).
 

ParraAds

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Bless your little heart.

Do you really think there's an investigation going on?



Well I'll never say never but I doubt anything is going to come out that isn't out already. About the biggest crime so far is unprofessionalism, and Duncan was obviously already aware of that.



Well a journo's job is to stir up trouble and get as close to libel as they can without needing to issue a retraction. Of course they're within their rights to do their job.

But outside of this forum it's a bit of a non story. People who don't like the board are having a feeding frenzy but everyone else is meh. Most league fans are more concerned with what happens on the field.

Mate I could say the sky is blue and you'd still argue so let's just leave it.
 

HevyDevy

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Bullshit.

The press has nothing new since the story broke which is why they're going to outsiders like Hilditch.

They got their story from Duncan, and now he's on the outside they're not getting any more details.

They can't even find a new photo to run.

Actually I was referring to the relationship between Massoud/Buzz and the board.

But carry on.
 

born an eel

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I have it on good authority that the only player Kearney was responsible in signing was Chris Walker, which was only after Eric decided to leave and he took a chance as he was about the only back left unsigned.

So DA can take credit for Maitua at least, you can tell the sort of player SK looks for, and that is why we have rebuilt and also why things are done on the quiet. DA had full recruitment responsibilities until the so called axe fell.
which was about a third of the way into the 2010 season, he wasn't told about it until after the end of the 2010 season though
 

HevyDevy

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Well a journo's job is to stir up trouble and get as close to libel as they can without needing to issue a retraction. Of course they're within their rights to do their job.

To be fair, I don't think you have any idea what a journo's job is PP. More importantly, clumping 'the media' together as if they are one big mass is ridiculous.

That's like saying it doesn't matter whether you've got Johnathan Thurston or Jeff Robson at half because every player is the same.
 

Delboy

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Bornaneel, you can believe what you choose as you obviously have a point of view you want to push.

I can tell you that DA had recruitment under his control until the end of the season and into the off season. As I suggested, you can believe what you want, unfortunately it is not correct
 

HevyDevy

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Bornaneel, you can believe what you choose as you obviously have a point of view you want to push.

I can tell you that DA had recruitment under his control until the end of the season and into the off season. As I suggested, you can believe what you want, unfortunately it is not correct

Of course he did. Despite this, the board still chased players outside of DA's word.
 

Poupou Escobar

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which was about a third of the way into the 2010 season, he wasn't told about it until after the end of the 2010 season though

You're saying he lost control over recruiting in mid-2010 but thought he still had a job?

To be fair, I don't think you have any idea what a journo's job is PP.

Their job is to sell papers (or advertising space).

More importantly, clumping 'the media' together as if they are one big mass is ridiculous.

Since they're all getting paid, they are all the same in that their loyalty is to their employers.

If their employers don't make any money, they lose their jobs.

That's like saying it doesn't matter whether you've got Johnathan Thurston or Jeff Robson at half because every player is the same.

No it isn't.

Thurston obviously sells more papers than Robson, because he writes more scandalous articles that get more bogan deadshits to buy the paper. ;-)

Just because all journalists have the same job doesn't mean they're all equally good at it.
 
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i cant be bothered hunting backwards through the entire thread to look but is there a direct quote anywhere from duncan saying he quit because of osbourne? lots of smoke everywhere but i cant see any flames yet
 

born an eel

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Bornaneel, you can believe what you choose as you obviously have a point of view you want to push.

I can tell you that DA had recruitment under his control until the end of the season and into the off season. As I suggested, you can believe what you want, unfortunately it is not correct
actions do not seem to back your information though Delboy, if you are going to sign a player to be the highest paid squad member why would you only have the CEO and star player at the meeting, wouldn't the current coach be actively involved.

From the outside looking in, it seems verry much the standard ".....(insert coaches name) has the full support of the board" situation.

And yes you are right. my opinion will not change until I get to insert my hand in the wound to see for myself, just call me Thomas.
 

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