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Cronulla - Foldy McFold Fold?

Alex28

Coach
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A move would be the best thing for both the club and the game - the club gets a cash injection and a clean slate (to an extent). The game stays at 16 clubs, no need for risky new ventures and no need to spread the talent too thin through the competition. Win win.
 

1 Eyed TEZZA

Coach
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If the Sharks move anywhere, Id like them to go to Wellington and be renamed the Orcas. Perth is reserved, CC is reserved, Sunshine Coast isnt ready, CQ isnt ready, SEQ maybe but???
 

Alex28

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Has anybody actually thought the game doesn't have the money or the talent to warrant any more than 16 teams?
 

Dogs Of War

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Most worried should be the Bears. Only viable relocation is to CC for the $7mill NRL offer and I'm confident the NRL would rather that than the new CC Bears (mind you that is also a big worry for us)

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Gallop has said that the NRL does NOT have that $8mil relocation money. So you can take that off the table.

It's why the NRL needs to ask for nominations for expansion. I am sure one of the bids would be directed to talk to the Sharks if they have enough money to take that franchise and relocate with there own money.
 

beads6

First Grade
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Sucks for the Sharks fans but if the club can't afford to go on there is no option!
 
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i'd rather see Melb/G.Coast/Cowboys fold before Sharks - those theams have only been here 5 minutes....history=ZIP!!

I hate the fact that after being propped up many times by the NSWRL that the Sharks jumped to Super League. Any respect I had for the club died with that decision.

When the 2 parties came back together it should have been a condition placed by the NSWRL that the Sharks were out; we lost far better clubs with the biased criteria.

In my opinion they should be left to die. Bring in the Bears next year, they would be ready.
 

Goddo

Bench
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The Sharks looked good after SuperLeague, and had mates at News Corp that ment they weren't going anywhere.

They had their debt payed for them by NSWRL, been given $12m just like every other SL club, and owned their own stadium, and had crowds comparable to the rest of the comp. On paper they looked good in 1997-98.

So with the "criteria" not looking at long term viability, past finacial failings or traditional value of clubs (or premiership sucess), and ARL and News keen to axe clubs that didn't offend the other, the sharks were locked in, and clubs like Perth, Crushers, and Gold Coast didn't stand a chance.
 

bartman

Immortal
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Miller - one of the five greatest Cronulla players of all time - believes his former club could be the next side to disappear from the top flight if they continue to struggle on and off the field.
:lol: No sh*t Sherlock, that writing's been on the wall for a few years.
 

Slackboy72

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They have to go. People who support neither side will care about the result of a Dogs v Parra game or a Broncos v Dragons match. Penrith v sharkies, pfft. Noone cares about them. They are stealing a spot on the ladder from a team that could be better supported and holding back the game which is trying to evolve into the 21st century. The sharks belong in the 80s, let them go back there with a spot in the Jim Beam cup.
 

DubaiSaint

Juniors
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Cronulla call for partners in bid to save club

CHRIS BARRETT

April 21, 2010

CRONULLA officials are set to step up their grand plan to save the embattled club by launching a public campaign for commercial partners in the proposed $110 million development next to Toyota Stadium.
Without the estimated $7m a year it could attract to Cronulla’s coffers the debt-ridden Sharks may go under, club insiders say.
The future of the Sharks has been the subject of constant speculation, with Cronulla Sutherland Leagues Club having an estimated debt of $12m.
The development, which would include 145 apartments for over-55s as well as a hotel, a supermarket and speciality shops, is the cornerstone of the Cronulla board’s goal to shore up the club's future.
The Sharks have spent the past five months working with a property consultancy firm in an effort to complete the details of a package to put to prospective joint venture partners.
That process is almost finalised, the Herald has been told, and the club will soon begin an expressions-of-interest campaign in a bid to attract potential commercial partners to take to members at the next annual general meeting at the end of next month.
The extent of the cash crisis at Cronulla was reignited on Sunday when coach Ricky Stuart said in the wake of a 44-16 loss to Brisbane – the Sharks’ fifth in six games this year – that the club was not spending to the full amount of the $4.1m NRL salary cap.
Sharks chief executive Richard Fisk has since said that the club had in fact cut spending on its NYC and NSW Cup sides, not its top 25 players.
But the clarification has done little to dull the spectre of gloom surrounding Toyota Stadium, where cash previously leaked by the football club – including pay-outs to past coaches Chris Anderson and Stuart Raper – has left the Sharks in a precarious financial position and led to mounting speculation that the club could fold.
Cronulla chairman Damian Irvine would not comment on the Sharks' latest efforts to get the hotel and residential development moving but he has conceded previously that the ambitious project, which received approval from Sutherland Shire Council last August, was not "the panacea to our financial problems".
But unless the development goes ahead, the club’s future is bleak. The development, club sources say, would be irrelevant if the Sharks continued to spend in the unrestrained fashion that landed them in a financial heap.
The new administration, headed by Irvine and Fisk, has made no secret of its mission to alleviate the club’s cash-flow problems since they took over the reins in the Shire.
In their efforts to correct their revenue streams there have been staff cuts, reworking of flawed commercial deals, a vigorous membership drive and cuts to spending on their lower-grade teams.
However, it is acknowledged that it will all come to nothing if the development – on land next to the Sharkies Leagues Club car park – does not attract commercial partners and proceed as planned.
The club has ruled out selling the land in a straight-out fire sale, with the move seen by the board as a short-term fix that would likely keep them afloat for only two to three additional years.
They have 18 months to act on their development application before it expires


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rtners-in-bid-to-save-club-20100420-sruu.html


The end is nigh!
 

Goddo

Bench
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and here is what their hero Rothfield is saying today:

Bring Bird back to Sharks

GREG Bird is the man to save the ailing Cronulla Sharks.
And there’s mail around Bird has been in touch with some of his old teammates to sound out a possible return.
Join me at 1pm today to discuss the Sharks crisis and whether Bird should be allowed back to the club he left in disgrace.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/bring-bird-back-to-sharks/story-e6frexnr-1225856157060

One player won't save them.
 

BIKER_DRAGON

Juniors
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Cronulla call for partners in bid to save club

CHRIS BARRETT

April 21, 2010

CRONULLA officials are set to step up their grand plan to save the embattled club by launching a public campaign for commercial partners in the proposed $110 million development next to Toyota Stadium.
Without the estimated $7m a year it could attract to Cronulla’s coffers the debt-ridden Sharks may go under, club insiders say.
The future of the Sharks has been the subject of constant speculation, with Cronulla Sutherland Leagues Club having an estimated debt of $12m.
The development, which would include 145 apartments for over-55s as well as a hotel, a supermarket and speciality shops, is the cornerstone of the Cronulla board’s goal to shore up the club's future.
The Sharks have spent the past five months working with a property consultancy firm in an effort to complete the details of a package to put to prospective joint venture partners.
That process is almost finalised, the Herald has been told, and the club will soon begin an expressions-of-interest campaign in a bid to attract potential commercial partners to take to members at the next annual general meeting at the end of next month.
The extent of the cash crisis at Cronulla was reignited on Sunday when coach Ricky Stuart said in the wake of a 44-16 loss to Brisbane – the Sharks’ fifth in six games this year – that the club was not spending to the full amount of the $4.1m NRL salary cap.
Sharks chief executive Richard Fisk has since said that the club had in fact cut spending on its NYC and NSW Cup sides, not its top 25 players.
But the clarification has done little to dull the spectre of gloom surrounding Toyota Stadium, where cash previously leaked by the football club – including pay-outs to past coaches Chris Anderson and Stuart Raper – has left the Sharks in a precarious financial position and led to mounting speculation that the club could fold.
Cronulla chairman Damian Irvine would not comment on the Sharks' latest efforts to get the hotel and residential development moving but he has conceded previously that the ambitious project, which received approval from Sutherland Shire Council last August, was not "the panacea to our financial problems".
But unless the development goes ahead, the club’s future is bleak. The development, club sources say, would be irrelevant if the Sharks continued to spend in the unrestrained fashion that landed them in a financial heap.
The new administration, headed by Irvine and Fisk, has made no secret of its mission to alleviate the club’s cash-flow problems since they took over the reins in the Shire.
In their efforts to correct their revenue streams there have been staff cuts, reworking of flawed commercial deals, a vigorous membership drive and cuts to spending on their lower-grade teams.
However, it is acknowledged that it will all come to nothing if the development – on land next to the Sharkies Leagues Club car park – does not attract commercial partners and proceed as planned.
The club has ruled out selling the land in a straight-out fire sale, with the move seen by the board as a short-term fix that would likely keep them afloat for only two to three additional years.
They have 18 months to act on their development application before it expires


http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...rtners-in-bid-to-save-club-20100420-sruu.html


The end is nigh!

Swamp land with a bad drainage problem who will invest big bucks in that....Sounds like Russell Island on the main land.:lol:
 
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With an UP TO 18 months timeframe for the Sharkies to act on the DA and then of course the ensuing timeframes for builder tendering and then of course the construction process itself, the real question is can the administration maintain solvency for that long. You would have to think 2-3 years minimum.
 

Feej

First Grade
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They have to go. People who support neither side will care about the result of a Dogs v Parra game or a Broncos v Dragons match. Penrith v sharkies, pfft. Noone cares about them. They are stealing a spot on the ladder from a team that could be better supported and holding back the game which is trying to evolve into the 21st century. The sharks belong in the 80s, let them go back there with a spot in the Jim Beam cup.
Ahh look, another Illawarra supporter passionately pleading for our removal. Surprise, surprise......
 

Goddo

Bench
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Yep. sounds like they need divine intervention.

Oh save the Sharkies oh wonderful Pirate god! Flying Spaghetti Monster, spare them!
Ramen

Did it work?
 
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I wouldn't like to see the Sharks fold but the fact of the matter is, they've been a basket case for many years now and have been bailed out more than any other club.

If they do fall over, the Dragons and the Roosters will be picking over the carcass in no time at all and it will only benefit these two, already strong teams.

Ideally, it should have been the Sharks and the Dragons that were merged back in Super League days and Illawarra should have been left on their own. That would have been a much better fit for the competition.
 

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