Cronulla to Perth

[The Great Dane]

“Every team in Sydney (*** except mine) should be considered to be relocated to Brisbane/Perth,” said every LU fan.

That's the problem though isn't it.

Everybody can see that there're too many teams in Sydney, but nobody is willing to do anything about it for fear it will effect them or their team.

 

[Smug Panther]

Tigers don't have a home and are the only side worth moving

 

[flippikat]

That's the problem though isn't it.

Everybody can see that there're too many teams in Sydney, but nobody is willing to do anything about it for fear it will effect them or their team.

The fate of the North Sydney Bears can't be overlooked too.. they VOLUNTARILY decided to relocate (OK, just up the road to Gosford), and paid a huge price for it.. then didn't get any support from the NRL to remain a standalone club at top tier when weather delays cruelled their plans.

I think if the Bears had received the support from the NRL to get through their relocation issues & gone on to thrive there, other clubs would perhaps be a little more open to moving too.

 

[The Mad Hatter]

Norths and Newtown.

Both tried moving and got FITA.

 

[Brick Tamland]

In the original story by Crawley, Dino says in it that we have actually now surpassed Parra and have the second biggest junior base in Sydney. I’m gathering he is including all participants in the tag games, women’s etc as they all come under the NRL umbrella these days.
Either way, our area has the second most participants after Penrith. We are a club that actually develops players. Yeah let’s move the club 1000kms away, loads of sense there.

The SMH recently put out this article:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/is...l-powerbrokers-concerned-20210519-p57tah.html

It includes this graph on the male numbers for tackle footy:




So Sharks have 3rd highest tackle #'s after Penrith and Parra

 

[titoelcolombiano]

The SMH recently put out this article:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/is...l-powerbrokers-concerned-20210519-p57tah.html

It includes this graph on the male numbers for tackle footy:

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So Sharks have 3rd highest tackle #'s after Penrith and Parra

And North Sydney has increased in the last 6 years. So it can be done without an NRL team - good to know.

 

[Perth Red]

And North Sydney has increased in the last 6 years. So it can be done without an NRL team - good to know.

WA has as many reg players as a number of Sydney regions looking at that graph, with no LC or NRL club, so yes it can be done. Its a misnomer that there has to be an NRL club in your suburb for you to want to play the game.

 

[bad boy bubby]

The SMH recently put out this article:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/is...l-powerbrokers-concerned-20210519-p57tah.html

It includes this graph on the male numbers for tackle footy:

View attachment 50043


So Sharks have 3rd highest tackle #'s after Penrith and Parra

Yeah I said that it probably included, tags and womens, which are included under the umbrella of the NRL, and said participants. So your discussion is for another point, not the one I made.

 

[flippikat]

And North Sydney has increased in the last 6 years. So it can be done without an NRL team - good to know.

Now there's an interesting observation...

 

[flippikat]

Norths and Newtown.

Both tried moving and got FITA.

Yep. I stand corrected - that's TWO foundation clubs that had the nous to realise their future was geographically elsewhere, but never got the support they needed to help them through the move.

Is it any wonder that current NRL clubs are so thoroughly against relocation, when this sport has never had a relocation that's been done well, with decent backing from league HQ?

 

[Perth Red]

Yep. I stand corrected - that's TWO foundation clubs that had the nous to realise their future was geographically elsewhere, but never got the support they needed to help them through the move.

Is it any wonder that current NRL clubs are so thoroughly against relocation, when this sport has never had a relocation that's been done well, with decent backing from league HQ?

Different times, different people in charge and both of them clubs moved because they wanted to, not because the game wanted them to. Gallop had $8mill on the table for years for a club to move and no one was interested despite some clubs literally running from week to week on cash flow. In this moment in time the ARLC have no interest in having a club relocate so its a pointless disucssion, no matter if it makes sense or not.

 

[The Great Dane]

The fate of the North Sydney Bears can't be overlooked too.. they VOLUNTARILY decided to relocate (OK, just up the road to Gosford), and paid a huge price for it.. then didn't get any support from the NRL to remain a standalone club at top tier when weather delays cruelled their plans.

I think if the Bears had received the support from the NRL to get through their relocation issues & gone on to thrive there, other clubs would perhaps be a little more open to moving too.

Norths and Newtown.

Both tried moving and got FITA.

As a contrast to them the Western Suburbs were helped by the NSWRL to move to Campbelltown in the 80s once they'd effectively stolen that opportunity from the Jets.

Look, I get what both of you are getting at, but I think given the circumstances in both cases that it's too simplistic to say that both the Bears and Jets weren't helped to relocate and that that is a big reason why other clubs refuse to relocate.

IMO it wouldn't matter if the Bears and Jets where the most successful clubs in the league right now, most clubs still wouldn't even consider relocation as a realistic option.

Take the AFL; the Swans have been a massive success, yet no other AFL team has even seriously considered relocation. Before you say it, despite what many think the Lions didn't really relocate, and they didn't willingly merge with the Bears either, which BTW was more a hostile takeover than a merger anyway.

 

[titoelcolombiano]

WA has as many reg players as a number of Sydney regions looking at that graph, with no LC or NRL club, so yes it can be done. Its a misnomer that there has to be an NRL club in your suburb for you to want to play the game.

Agreed

 

[myrrh ken]

Both St George and Tigers are struggling financially. They are the obvious choices.

Wests Tigers - keep the name, move them to WA.

St George - just keep shifting them south - South Coast Illawarra Dragons. Permanently based in Illawarra. Spiritual home at Jubilee.

 

[Perth Red]

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Both St George and Tigers are struggling financially. They are the obvious choices.

Wests Tigers - keep the name, move them to WA.

St George - just keep shifting them south - South Coast Illawarra Dragons. Permanently based in Illawarra. Spiritual home at Jubilee.

For as long as stupid people put their hard earnt into pokie machine Tigers will not be financially struggling. In terms of NRL operations generated revenue the Tigers would actually sit in top half of table.
Pre covid 2019 year they generated: $5.9mill in sponsorship and corporate sales, $1.4mill merch sales, $3.5mill memberships and ticket sales.

https://westsashfield.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/WAL_AnnualReport_201819-17Feb-V3-FINAL-1.pdf

 

[Jim Rockford]

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For as long as stupid people put their hard earnt into pokie machine

Well you're as stupid as they come so how much do you pump through the one-armed bandits?

 

[Vic Mackey]

Both St George and Tigers are struggling financially. They are the obvious choices.

Fcking wot?

We suck on field but off the field we've been in the black for a while, this is depsite making the finals 3 times in 21 years. Any other Sydney team would have folded with types of on field stats

 

[myrrh ken]

Fcking wot?

We suck on field but off the field we've been in the black for a while, this is depsite making the finals 3 times in 21 years. Any other Sydney team would have folded with types of on field stats

haha sorry - behind the times. Yeah you are doing all right off the field - Wests Ashfield going strong.

 

[ground zero]

Both St George and Tigers are struggling financially. They are the obvious choices.

Wests Tigers - keep the name, move them to WA.

St George - just keep shifting them south - South Coast Illawarra Dragons. Permanently based in Illawarra. Spiritual home at Jubilee.

 

[ground zero]

Dragons leagues club worth 60 million. 22 million in bank. plus the Gordons own 50% multi millionaires. so the dragons are not struggling financially. all lies.