Crowd Watch 2012 Mk II

[Cumberland Throw]

They reckon 38000 at anz for afl tonight...

Creative number from the look of it

 

[elbusto]

They reckon 38000 at anz for afl tonight...

Creative number from the look of it

22565 is the official crowd. The rest is spin.

 

[Dresden Dan]

@GWS_Giants

Official crowd at @ANZStadium tonight is 22,565 #thinkbig #aflswansgiants

https://twitter.com/GWS_Giants/statu...33803153354753

 

[Cumberland Throw]

22565 is the official crowd. The rest is spin.

Shit thats a bit better, the commentator some Victorian said 38000, then the other numb nut said, looks like 25k ...

 

[elbusto]

Shit thats a bit better, the commentator some Victorian said 38000, then the other numb nut said, looks like 25k ...

They lie. It is that simple.

 

[Dresden Dan]

They reckon 38000 at anz for afl tonight...

Creative number from the look of it

Rabs was on MMM this morning telling all that Manly & Roosters in league couldn't crack 10000. I think he said something similar during the game call. Not that 13500 is a good number but its more than 10000.

 

[Yosemite Sam]

Parra Stadium is quite deceptive, it looked pretty packed tonight for only 12K.

22,565 was the AFL crowd, and even that looked a bit generous.

 

[Cumberland Throw]

Rabs was on MMM this morning telling all that Manly & Roosters in league couldn't crack 10000. I think he said something similar during the game call. Not that 13500 is a good number but its more than 10000.

I think this week showed a pure case study into the certain views of the media and sport.

Roosters v Manly gets 13500, Rabs who works for official broadcaster spruiks 9000.

Swans v Giants gets 22000 and Anthony Hudson spruiks 38000...


RL really needs to purge itself of all the haters, most people hate to admit it, but we have a baseload of over a million people who absolutely love RL, not for what RL can do for them but for what RL does for them.

We need fans in the media, not washed up journalism students from Bendigo or Perth writing and talking about RL.

Im f**king over this shit...

 

[clarency]

Rabs wasn't being negative.. just realistic. There's nothing wrong with that.

I would hate having numb nut zombies making outlandish claims over the artificial dominance of a manufactured (failing, mind you) rivalry they are trying to build over at the AFL.

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I was at the Parra game last night. I agree that smaller crowds are deceptively big, which is a good thing in my opinion.

I hate the f*cking parking.
I hate the f*cking parking.
I hate the f*cking parking.

They shouldn't even think about upgrading the stadium until they build proper facilities to support the people that go there now.

 

[Brutus]

So the AFL get the free public transport thing for the Swans v GWS derp fest yet the crowd was only 22k.

Was the bulldogs v dragons game earlier in the a free public transport game? It got 30k.

You could go to the ticketek website and print out 4 free tickets to the Swans game if you put in 'swans' or 'gws' in the promo code box. It instantly gave you free public transport for the night as well. What a rort.

 

[Goddo]

Rabs was on MMM this morning telling all that Manly & Roosters in league couldn't crack 10000. I think he said something similar during the game call. Not that 13500 is a good number but its more than 10000.

I have noticed that Rabs has been very negative about crowds in recent weeks before games, making comments like "the crowd is small" when its aroud 13-14k, as well as the example you provided.

The old karmichael is past it. I don't mind him being a realist about crowds, but he seems to be talking them down recently by several thousand.

Kind of the opposite to what the AFL commentators do from what others have said here.

 

[Raiderdave]

I have noticed that Rabs has been very negative about crowds in recent weeks before games, making comments like "the crowd is small" when its aroud 13-14k, as well as the example you provided.

The old karmichael is past it. I don't mind him being a realist about crowds, but he seems to be talking them down recently by several thousand.

Kind of the opposite to what the AFL commentators do from what others have said here.

a bit of cross thread info here from the TV rights discussion

Rabs probably has been told on the quiet that 9 has lost the TV rights to 10 &
he is bitter & disgrunteld
watch for even more unfavourable comments in the coming weeks leading up to an announcement as 9 go down like squealing b.itches

 

[Timmah]

After I openly bagged the Swans/Giants crowd on Twitter last night I had a couple of people saying "oh fair go it's a new team"...

Other sports seem to actually build local derbies up when in their infancy - Broncos/Titans first season got 47k and 48k at Suncorp, the following season Skilled Park sold out for the Titans home match as well.

I know in A-League the Melbourne Derby at AAMI is routinely a sellout or near enough.

Simple fact is, IMO, AFL will never gain true traction in Western Sydney.

 

[azza29]

Other sports seem to actually build local derbies up when in their infancy - Broncos/Titans first season got 47k and 48k at Suncorp, the following season Skilled Park sold out for the Titans home match as well.

I know in A-League the Melbourne Derby at AAMI is routinely a sellout or near enough.

League is huge in QLD, soccer is big enough in Melbourne so it makes sense that these derbies would get sizeable crowds. For a city where nobody cares about AFL, and the match result was known before it started, 22k isn't an amazing crowd but isn't terrible either.

Simple fact is, IMO, AFL will never gain true traction in Western Sydney.

GWS will always be the laggard of the AFL, small loyal band of supporters but nothing more.

 

[Frailty]

League is huge in QLD, soccer is big enough in Melbourne so it makes sense that these derbies would get sizeable crowds. For a city where nobody cares about AFL, and the match result was known before it started, 22k isn't an amazing crowd but isn't terrible either.



GWS will always be the laggard of the AFL, small loyal band of supporters but nothing more.

For the Giants - its a big crowd.
For the Swans - it's a shit crowd.

 

[Cletus]

For the Giants - its a big crowd.
For the Swans - it's a shit crowd.

Your spot on, the vast majority were Swans fans and 22k is about the season average for the Swans. The GWS aren't going to get over 10 thousand for the rest of the season and if it wasn't for the 38,000 who turned up to the first Swans vs GWS game and massive fudging of crowd figures they would average well under 10 thousand. They're going to be a money pit for the AFL for years to come.

 

[Brutus]

Your spot on, the vast majority were Swans fans and 22k is about the season average for the Swans. The GWS aren't going to get over 10 thousand for the rest of the season and if it wasn't for the 38,000 who turned up to the first Swans vs GWS game and massive fudging of crowd figures they would average well under 10 thousand. They're going to be a money pit for the AFL for years to come.

Anyone who wanted a free ticket to the GWS v Swans game last night could have got one. Free public transport as well.

 

[Perth Red]

Is that a bad thing for a new team? AFL has the financial luxury of being able to fund it. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if the ARLC funded free tickets for Pirates games and we were attracting 22k because of it!

 

[elbusto]

Is that a bad thing for a new team? AFL has the financial luxury of being able to fund it. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if the ARLC funded free tickets for Pirates games and we were attracting 22k because of it!

Yes it is a bad thing. A new Club usually has a big year for crowds before the novelty wears off. Surely you knew that.

The AFL are going to have to throw 100s of millions at this Club. It is a pending disaster.

 

[Perth Red]

Yes they are, as they have done with Swans and Lions, but they see the long term investment reaping more than it costs. I have no idea if they will be right or wrong but I do applaud them at least trying to spread their game and have a much stronger capital city presence. We are still trying to play catch up from the disaster of 1996 and have spent 15 years pretty much negelcting any area outside the heartlands. Even Victoria still receives very little funding for grass roots and Jnr development.

It is hardly marketing rocket science to offer free or discount products for a new business trying to build a customer base.

The advantage we have is we actually have people in places like Perth, Melbourne and Darwin that want to go to games. Doesn't mean to say we shouldn't be doing as much as we can to fill stadiums in those areas, especially targetting potential new fans to the game.