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Crowd Watch 2012

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Timmah

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I came home disappointed in 29,641 not knowing the Titans crowd.

Now I'm wondering what the NRL is thinking of it's now farcical decision to award the Gold Coast a franchise six years ago. What a basketcase the GC is to not be able to even HALF fill a stadium a week after a season-opening win, first home game of the season, with a bunch of new recruits.

What's doing Titans?
 

ParraEelsNRL

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No i am a maths teacher. Brutus seemed interested but noe he has wandered off.

A numbers man eh?

Could you work out how much each forum member here would need to chuck in to get a decent WS stadium of say 50k with a roof?

Biggest state in the nation with the worst stadiums.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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I came home disappointed in 29,641 not knowing the Titans crowd.

Now I'm wondering what the NRL is thinking of it's now farcical decision to award the Gold Coast a franchise six years ago. What a basketcase the GC is to not be able to even HALF fill a stadium a week after a season-opening win, first home game of the season, with a bunch of new recruits.

What's doing Titans?

As I said in another thread, they need to show the mob running the stadiums in QLD they will not take their shit any more with the outrageous prices. Move the games to Ballymore for a season or two, and yes I read that the lighting isn't up to scratch, but the money they'd save playing elsewhere could possible be much much cheaper to install decent lighting.
 

beave

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I pray to god we get 16-17k against Parra next weekend, I shant bag the titans too much on tonights crowd because it's obvious something is wrong down there.
 

Timmah

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I don't think the stadium prices are the sole problem anymore.

The stadium itself is too far from the glitter strip for people to want to trek out there... the people in the area aren't caring as much anymore, and you can bet the soccer malarky at the moment is probably putting people off all sports in the area (apart from surfing lol).

I just think the Gold Coast is a recurrent problem area in the NRL... while there's a joint between Sydney and Newcastle consistently showing it wants a team on a number of levels being essentially ignored.
 

ParraEelsNRL

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Could be, you're right, it may just be the black hole we've all thought it was beforehand.

Interesting to see how the Thuns go this year then seeing as it's their second and all that.
 

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I just think the Gold Coast is a recurrent problem area in the NRL... while there's a joint between Sydney and Newcastle consistently showing it wants a team on a number of levels being essentially ignored.

100% agreed. To think that when the talk of having a 16th team originated around 2003/04, the Central Coast bid was rejected even though it ticked all of the boxes in the criteria. Apparently, it was rumoured at the time that the NRL waited for the Gold Coast stadium arrangement to be sorted out before immediately giving them the green light (as the Gold Coast franchise did not meet the stadium requirements, which was the last piece in the puzzle for them).

If the Gold Coast does go under, I can't feel sorry for the NRL. They dug themselves a hole, they can get themselves out of it for all I care. This is the 4th attempt at a Gold Coast franchise (well, technically 2 if u count the Giants and Seagulls as being based in Tweed Heads) and it also seems the ppl of the Gold Coast are apathetic when it comes to support for professional sporting teams. They'd much rather be at the beach. I think the Titans will be more worried than the Sharks if they keep drawing low attendances.
 

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they need to show the mob running the stadiums in QLD they will not take their shit any more with the outrageous prices. .

Your idea sounds good at face value, but when you have things called 'contracts', it's not so easy to just jump onto another boat whenever you feel like it. The bastards at Stadiums QLD will play hardball and take non-stop legal action. They'll do anything to get the exorbitant amount of money they have been raking for the last few years. If anything, you can blame Mr "I have all the ideas to set up the IC, save RL and build a useless Centre of Excellence building I cannot repay the loan on" Searle et al. for signing off on one of the WORST stadium agreements that they themselves now have to deal with (the fact that they got that deal, yet the stadium were able to negotiate a good deal during the RLWC says something).

When I saw the ticket prices for Skilled Park back in 2008, I knew that the ppl of the GC weren't going to fork out those prices in the long-run (and this was before the GFC, declining GC economy, bad on-field form from the Titans etc.). I'm sorry if this sounds disrespectful to the genuine GC supporters (not the fair-weathered ones), but only a fool would get sucked into paying those ridiculous prices that have been heaped upon you. And as Timmah correctly said, convincing first round win, first home game of the season, a lot of off-season signings (Idris being the star signing), perfect weather....and only 11k...not looking good for the Titans. They sure as hell will try to win many games, because a repeat of last year's form-slump will result in crowd attendances half of what they got against the Raiders. And to see a top-class stadium like the one they have (and one that clubs like Manly would die to have) approximately 1/4 full will be EMBARASSING to see on tv. Even 1/2 full and seeing the plethora of blue seats on the eastern side of the ground is not acceptable
 
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ParraEelsNRL

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Your idea sounds good at face value, but when you have things called 'contracts', it's not so easy to just jump onto another boat whenever you feel like it. The bastards at Stadiums QLD will play hardball and take non-stop legal action. They'll do anything to get the exorbitant amount of money they have been raking for the last few years. If anything, you can blame Mr "I have all the ideas to set up the IC, save RL and build a useless Centre of Excellence building I cannot repay the loan on" Searle et al. for signing off on one of the WORST stadium agreements that they themselves now have to deal with (the fact that they got that deal, yet the stadium were able to negotiate a good deal during the RLWC says something).

When I saw the ticket prices for Skilled Park back in 2008, I knew that the ppl of the GC weren't going to fork out those prices in the long-run (and this was before the GFC, declining GC economy, bad on-field form from the Titans etc.). And as Timmah correctly said, convincing first round win, a lot of off-season signings (Idris being the star signing), perfect weather....and only 11k...not looking good for the Titans. They sure as hell will try to win as much as possible, because a form-slump like last year will result in crowd attendances half of what they got against the Raiders. And to see a top-class stadium like the one they have (and one that clubs like Manly would die to have) approximately 1/4 full will be EMBARASSING to see on tv.

Can't disagree with any of that mate.

Seems Mr Searl was interested in getting a team only and NOT looking at the bigger picture.

We get a stadium and we are set mate type thing, he may have just killed all the hard work and the good will they got leading up to it because of that one thing.
 

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Hahahahaha f**k anyone want to take bets on how long the titans have been trading insolvent with accounting like that?

Well, with a club CEO involved in dodgy incidents in recent times, something's gotta give. Weren't the Titans accused of fudging crowd figures last year?
 

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Can't disagree with any of that mate.

Seems Mr Searl was interested in getting a team only and NOT looking at the bigger picture.

We get a stadium and we are set mate type thing, he may have just killed all the hard work and the good will they got leading up to it because of that one thing.

Searle has probably been one of the biggest disappointments of the last few years. Seems like Kevin Rudd's long lost twin brother: all talk, no action. To think that, like your previous CEO Paul Osbourne, he burst onto the NRL scene with so much promise and potential, positive reviews, praise from the media, and he was one of the first ppl to propose the idea of the IC....and then to see everything that's unfolded in the last 2 yrs with all the controversies involving Searle at the club, financial debt issues....I mean, I'm not saying Todd Greenberg is St Peter, but Todd made a conscious effort to change the negative perception of his club, how other club's fans viewed his club's fans and actually got involved with the community in trying to build the club for future success.
 
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Searle has probably been one of the biggest disappointments of the last few years. Seems like Kevin Rudd's long lost twin brother: all talk, no action. To think that, like your previous CEO Paul Osbourne, he burst onto the NRL scene with so much promise and potential, positive reviews, praise from the media, and he was one of the first ppl to propose the idea of the IC....and then to see everything that's unfolded in the last 2 yrs with all the controversies involving Searle at the club, financial debt issues....I mean, I'm not saying Todd Greenberg is St Peter, but Todd made a conscious effort to change the negative perception of his club, how other club's fans viewed his club's fans and actually got involved with the community in trying to build the club for future success.

Dead right again mate.

Now stop it ;-)

Titans like Parra should be flying along both on and off the pitch (off mostly seeing as it's a actually a sport), but these two are the biggest disappointments in the whole League.
 
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But statistics can be manipulated.
2005 was a very good year.
If you compare 2001 to 2011 there has been nearly a 30% increase over the 10 years

2005 was a great year because of the way teams played, namely the Tigers.

IMO, the game is not nearly as exciting as it was back then. People don't want to see 16 teams playing snorefest Dragons-style football, they want to be entertained - that is the primary reason why people follow the sport, or any sport. Somehow, people on here tend to forget that.
 

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I remember saying myself that they underbuilt the Gold Coast stadium and it shoulda been a 40k seater to start with. How clearly wrong was I. Titans are struggling and unless they win a premiership in the next 5 years I am finding it hard to see them surviving. NZ on the other hand have not won a comp but are still going pretty strong. In my POV I am very reluctant to give QLD another team. Yes Brisbane are strong, but Titans and Cowboys seem to be struggling...Perth are the obvious choice for expansion as they should be but instead of yet another Qld team i'm strongly in the favour of another NZ team atm.
 

Teddyboy

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As I said in another thread, they need to show the mob running the stadiums in QLD they will not take their shit any more with the outrageous prices. Move the games to Ballymore for a season or two, and yes I read that the lighting isn't up to scratch, but the money they'd save playing elsewhere could possible be much much cheaper to install decent lighting.

Thats a good idea.
What about Redcliffes ground.
 

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730 Saturday is not an easy slot for attracting people

The reality is that the timeslot is prime time for going out or catching up with friends. With a 530 game the night is still yours, but 730 on a sat is harder. I dare say we would've got more at 530

How the f**k it wasn't a ch9 nein game is beyond me
 

bobmar28

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I don't think the stadium prices are the sole problem anymore.

The stadium itself is too far from the glitter strip for people to want to trek out there... the people in the area aren't caring as much anymore, and you can bet the soccer malarky at the moment is probably putting people off all sports in the area (apart from surfing lol).

I just think the Gold Coast is a recurrent problem area in the NRL... while there's a joint between Sydney and Newcastle consistently showing it wants a team on a number of levels being essentially ignored.

So what's your solution? Abandon the Gold Coast to the AFL?
 
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Flapper

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I came home disappointed in 29,641 not knowing the Titans crowd.

Now I'm wondering what the NRL is thinking of it's now farcical decision to award the Gold Coast a franchise six years ago. What a basketcase the GC is to not be able to even HALF fill a stadium a week after a season-opening win, first home game of the season, with a bunch of new recruits.

What's doing Titans?

So youre saying a Nth Central Coast Sydney Bears v Canberra game at 530 on a Saturday would've got more than 11378?
 
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