Crowd Watch 2013

[undertaker]

Same time period
Parramatta home crowds at Parramatta Stadium = 1,590,768
Penrith home crowds at Penrith Stadium = 1,723,785

Parramatta home crowds total = 1,893,552
Penrith home crowds total = 1,756,654

That 7.8% difference is almost entirely down to the 13 event games Parramatta played at bigger venues (Penrith only played 2).

For the record for the same period -

Canberra home crowds total = 1,538,257

Docbrown delivers again Glad you cleared up some of that hyperbole used, such as 'diabolical'.

 

[franklin2323]

not trying to be overly critical but I just thought 9,000 or so on a sunny afternoon on a easter weekend was just pathetic. If I have come across as to heavy I do apologize.

It is though they was more Penrith fans there then the week before. The difference was GC brought 500 fans whereas Souths brought 5k.

Unless the NRL give us Slater, Smith & Cronk it's not going to improve anytime soon. As a fan you try & support the team though it always seems as we always are rebuilding so while it seems as we are on the way up. Results are all that will get the turnstiles ticking over.

 

[undertaker]

Easter Sunday has never drawn well. It's one of those time slots that probably should be abandoned on that weekend. Never happen unfortunately.

Maybe ensuring a team plays out of anz might work on that day to take advantage of the people going to the Easter show may be the only solution.

Which is what I said in the 'Locked in Schedule not so good?' thread. You get another blockbuster match at ANZ Stadium between two teams (I suggest Parramatta and St George/Illawarra - like Bulldogs and Souffs, Eels and Dragons have two of the largest supporter bases in the NRL) on Easter Sunday and there's absolutely no reason why it can't get a crowd of at least 35-40k minimum

 

[franklin2323]

There is no way that Queensland has more people attend League over a year than do in Sydney. And I am talking per capita.

Spot on 98k roughly watched NRL in Sydney
What did Brisbane get 41k? So per capita pretty close. The difference is this week no game in Brisbane while 3 in Sydney.

 

[Ziggy the God]

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/penrith_vn.html

Um, check out the "highest crowds" section and look at when they got their record crowd? That's right, just under three years ago. Also, look at what their crowd averages were like in recent years when they made the finals during the past 15 years? All they need is a good year on the field and like teams that were in the doldrums and then performed well, the fans will start turning up in full-force to their matches. Easy to kick an injured person when they're lying on the ground defenseless. After all, it was only a few years ago that Souffs were regularly getting a paltry 6-7k to home matches. Then the year their made the finals for the first time in 18 years, their average home attendance increased by 50% and has been strong since then.

It also doesn't help when their highest drawing home fixture vs Parramatta will be on Monday Night. As well as having home games during the heat of the day in March, where it was stinking hot and humid . It doesn't help when you get dumb scheduling (just go and ask the Sea Eagles fans who have a plethora of MNF games this year), which has a big impact on club memberships that are vital for long-term growth.

So when did we regularly get 6-7k crowds? One year in 2006 on a 3 game Winning season?

Outside of that year, they have been competitive with Sydney teams since reinstatement.

 

[Perth Red]

Just had a look at what the Western Farce are charging for the new stands. $75 for East stand, $55 to sit behind the sticks and $32 to stand in the shed. Geez and RL fans complain at price of going to the game!

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Going back 10 years to compare Penrith and Parramatta is geniused,must look at recent years to gauge where a team is at

Penrith had 6 home crowds under 10k in 2012 and 1 thus far in 2013
Parramatta had 1 home crowd under 10k in 2012 and 0 thus far in 2013


Penrith pwned by Matt Keating

 

[franklin2323]

So when did we regularly get 6-7k crowds? One year in 2006 on a 3 game Winning season?

Outside of that year, they have been competitive with Sydney teams since reinstatement.

Souths crowd ave in 2003, 2004 was 9k both years so there were some low crowd in that lot. Not sure if it was that low. I remember going to SFS in 03 in the rain and there was a pretty poor crowd.

 

[Ziggy the God]

Souths crowd ave in 2003, 2004 was 9k both years so there were some low crowd in that lot. Not sure if it was that low. I remember going to SFS in 03 in the rain and there was a pretty poor crowd.

In 2002 (first year back) we averaged 14,790, 2003 9,524, 2004 11,380.

That year was our low point in crowds, and it built from there.

 

[age.s]

Going back 10 years to compare Penrith and Parramatta is geniused,must look at recent years to gauge where a team is at

Penrith had 6 home crowds under 10k in 2012 and 1 thus far in 2013
Parramatta had 1 home crowd under 10k in 2012 and 0 thus far in 2013


Penrith pwned by Matt Keating

Why? Most of the people that attended in 2003/04 are likely still fans of the game. The only thing that has changed in that time is our terrible performance (both in terms of results and playing style). It just shows that the latent support that can be unlocked by both teams isn't worlds apart like some suggest it is.

Parra haven't been all that successful during that period either in fairness.

It's not a war. There would be nothing better for both teams than a sustained period of success for both teams at the same time. Throw in a couple of classic grand finals and you have a rivalry on the scale of the Bulldogs/Eels.

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

Where did I criticise the Boncos?

There is no way that Queensland has more people attend League over a year than do in Sydney. And I am talking per capita.

You were the one that bagged Sydney's attendance.

"nearly 5 Million people in Sydey

& they can't find even 10,000 people willing to attend a Penrith game ?"

Are being deliberately obtuse or unintentionally dim? Either way, my post was a rewording of Raiderdope's post, and done to show how stupid his post was. Context is your friend.

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

Spot on 98k roughly watched NRL in Sydney
What did Brisbane get 41k? So per capita pretty close. The difference is this week no game in Brisbane while 3 in Sydney.

And here comes the per capita argument again. Already discredited multiple times in this thread, it is dragged out every 20 pages or so when its progenitors hope we have already forgotten how it was skewered last time.

Per capita Townsville is the rugby league crowd capital of the world, and Sydney looks even more ordinary.

Let's say it for the record, and using another word that is cognate with capita: the per capita argument is kaput!

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Why? Most of the people that attended in 2003/04 are likely still fans of the game. The only thing that has changed in that time is our terrible performance (both in terms of results and playing style). It just shows that the latent support that can be unlocked by both teams isn't worlds apart like some suggest it is.

Parra haven't been all that successful during that period either in fairness.

It's not a war. There would be nothing better for both teams than a sustained period of success for both teams at the same time. Throw in a couple of classic grand finals and you have a rivalry on the scale of the Bulldogs/Eels.

Parramatta have 15k members this season which is our highest ever so that means we have actually seen growth on the back of failure,Parra fans have proven loyalty whilst Penrith fans have shown nothing but bandwagonness

We got dis

 

[Marcus1979]

Parramatta have 15k members this season which is our highest ever so that means we have actually seen growth on the back of failure,Parra fans have proven loyalty whilst Penrith fans have shown nothing but bandwagonness

We got dis

since we are comparing a decade ago what was Penrith's memberships like the season after their last wooden spoon?

 

[Raiderdave]

wow

nearly 5 Million people in Sydey

& they can't find even 10,000 people willing to attend a Penrith game ?
or a Wests game at Campbelltown ?

pathetic seems to be quite inadequate a word to describe this situation.:roll:

ahhhhhh:sarcasm:

the Penrith Nepean region would be lucky to have 400K people you halfwit :lol:

making its crowd against the Titans
Bigger per capita

then the one in Brisbane on Friday

if you want to include all of Sydneys population of near 5 Million

then add all their clubs
not just one

145K
to 33K

thats the state of play where the population argument is concerned
& Sydney makes a mockery of Brisbane
a plain & simple mockery

 

[Raiderdave]

And, well done for being another LU Einstein to find a way to criticise the Broncos getting 40k to a game.

they should never get under 40K

but do more often then not
just pathetic :roll:

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

they should never get under 40K

but do more often then not
just pathetic :roll:

Raiderdope returns to tell us why a crowd in the 30000s is bad. Perhaps we should through the Broncs out of the NRL. They are clearly underperforming. :lol:

 

[Marcus1979]

Raiderdope returns to tell us why a crowd in the 30000s is bad. Perhaps we should through the Broncs out of the NRL. They are clearly underperforming. :lol:

it is a one team town in a city of over million. Not like Sydney where its divided among several clubs

 

[Raiderdave]

And here comes the per capita argument again. Already discredited multiple times in this thread,
Per capita Townsville is the rugby league crowd capital of the world, and Sydney looks even more ordinary.

!

and brisbane ...... worse still to the point of embarrasment
which is essentially what I've been saying

their fans are frauds ;-)

you've debunked the per captia argument in your head & maybe a few of your bronco apologits mates heads

but thats it
Brisbane league fans ... & SE Qld League fans in general need to pull their fingers out

end of

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

ahhhhhh:sarcasm:

the Penrith Nepean region would be lucky to have 400K people you halfwit :lol:

Funny how when you Andrew Bolt impersonators try and work out statistically erroneous per capita calculations you use a massive population for "Brisbane" but a tiny population for the notional "catchment" of the teams (with small crowds) that you are defending.

Maybe Abbot should make you Climate Commissioner when he throws out the current incumbent. You could use some of your great mathematical to show us that Penrith draw great crowds and that we are really in an ice age.

making its crowd against the Titans
Bigger per capita

then the one in Brisbane on Friday

You must be stoked that per capita the Cowboys kick the arse of every team south of the Tweed?

thats the state of play where the population argument is concerned
& Sydney makes a mockery of Brisbane
a plain & simple mockery

So it's better to have small crowds than large crowds?
Who's better off, Mr Bolt, 1 million people earning $1 or 1 person earning $1000000?

Funny how you've dodged a critical analysis of your logic every single time it has been made.

Maybe it is envy. Maybe denial. Who can say.