Crowd Watch 2014 part 3

[pHyR3]

"A club official told The Australian yesterday the contract was “unbelievably restrictive” and it gave the NRL very little room to manoeuvre with regards to scheduling. One positive, however, was Nine’s first and last rights option has been removed for the next deal."

pretty much this. Ch. 9 has the NRL by the balls and ain't letting go until 2018.

 

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"A club official told The Australian yesterday the contract was ?unbelievably restrictive? and it gave the NRL very little room to manoeuvre with regards to scheduling. One positive, however, was Nine?s first and last rights option has been removed for the next deal."

pretty much this. Ch. 9 has the NRL by the balls and ain't letting go until 2018.

The ARLC still agreed to it, just like the 18 Broncos games a season on FTA. Their negotiating power should be better next round.

 

[Perth Red]

It's been said many times, but once this is treated as a national comp and not an expanded NSWRL comp by mainly channel 9 and to a lesser degree the NRL the better.

 

[RWB]

That headline is misleading.

Should read: "Greenberg releases some generic statements whilst playing flappy bird"

 

[Perth Red]

It's been said many times, but once this is treated as a national comp and not an expanded NSWRL comp by mainly channel 9 and to a lesser degree the NRL the better.

Not that I'd normally argue the point! but sydney derbies should be our avg crowd boosters. No point having nine teams in one city unless you are going to get large crowds made up of home and away team fans from those clubs playing each other. Not scheduling these to be blockbusters is ridiculous and really Nine wants to show big games on Fri and Sunday so the NRL should be able to sway them to make these big games the televised ones in the best slots.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

26 rounds = Disgrace
State of Origin = Disgrace

 

[Perth Red]

NL has perfect chance to set out its stall at end of this year. With one eye on 2018 tv deal it should be considering increasing number of teams whilst reducing number of rounds and having stand alone rep weekends. Expansion plays a big part in future make up of the competition and how it is televised. More Sunday games, more red button games played at same time in fan friendly slots and more control wrestled away from TV execs is essential to growth. The notion every game has to have a stand alone slot is no longer in best interests of Tv or fans, bigger competition with audience choice of live games on a Saturday and Sunday is the future.

 

[franklin2323]

Not that I'd normally argue the point! but sydney derbies should be our avg crowd boosters. No point having nine teams in one city unless you are going to get large crowds made up of home and away team fans from those clubs playing each other. Not scheduling these to be blockbusters is ridiculous and really Nine wants to show big games on Fri and Sunday so the NRL should be able to sway them to make these big games the televised ones in the best slots.

I couldn't understand why 9 wanted 2 games Good Friday but not take the Souths v Bulldogs game. Dinosaurs running them is the only thing I can think of.

South v Bulldogs - News - Pre game show game at 7

That's just 1 example of the 2 working together

 

[Kirky]

Key quote from that article is the Roosters bloke thinking that bums on seats are only short term growth while TV ratings are long term. Idiot.

 

[Chook Norris]

Key quote from that article is the Roosters bloke thinking that bums on seats are only short term growth while TV ratings are long term. Idiot.

From a finance perspective, I don't see how what he said was necessarily incorrect lol

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

1st vs 2nd at a historic venue, what excuses will people come up this week to not show up. The swans got 36k on a Friday, you think 2 nrl heartland teams can do the same surely. Market the hell of this event.

 

[RWB]

From a finance perspective, I don't see how what he said was necessarily incorrect lol

It's not incorrect at all, getting bums on seats due to a good time slot is just cash in the bank. The long term plan for crowd improvement has to go far beyond giving games the perfect time slot with no regard to TV ratings. Balance is they key.

 

[RWB]

1st vs 2nd at a historic venue, what excuses will people come up this week to not show up. The swans got 36k on a Friday, you think 2 nrl heartland teams can do the same surely. Market the hell of this event.

Shut the f**k up.

 

[BunniesMan]

1st vs 2nd at a historic venue, what excuses will people come up this week to not show up. The swans got 36k on a Friday, you think 2 nrl heartland teams can do the same surely. Market the hell of this event.

Hardly comparing apples and apples. I bet less Manly fans show up than Essendon fans did for the Swans game.

We'll get a solid 23k. 22k of Souths fans.

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Only 23k for 1st vs 2nd. That be terrible for such a high quality game.

 

[DIOGENES]

Comparisons:

2014 152 games 2,423,026 aggregate. 15,941 average
2013 152. 2,381,044. 15,665
2012 (record ). 2,604,461. 16,278

 

[Timmah]

1st vs 2nd at a historic venue, what excuses will people come up this week to not show up. The swans got 36k on a Friday, you think 2 nrl heartland teams can do the same surely. Market the hell of this event.

If they were the only factors, sure.

You're forgetting that the average NRL fan can see a minimum of 2 games in Sydney almost every weekend.

Meanwhile, Sydney fans get 12 games in a season, and only 9 or 10 of those are at the SCG.

It's called supply and demand, and if any teams are failing at drawing crowds in that sense... it's the Raiders, Storm and Cowboys.

 

[SLRBRONCOS]

If they were the only factors, sure.

You're forgetting that the average NRL fan can see a minimum of 2 games in Sydney almost every weekend.

Meanwhile, Sydney fans get 12 games in a season, and only 9 or 10 of those are at the SCG.

It's called supply and demand, and if any teams are failing at drawing crowds in that sense... it's the Raiders, Storm and Cowboys.

Your points are valid. But.

That Bulldogs v Penrith crowd was hilariously crap.

 

[The Voice of Reason!]

If they were the only factors, sure.

You're forgetting that the average NRL fan can see a minimum of 2 games in Sydney almost every weekend.

This is trotted out like a mantra every time there is a whiff of crap crowds in Sydney. If every NRL fan in Sydney went to one game a week we'd have 25k averages in no time.

It's called supply and demand, and if any teams are failing at drawing crowds in that sense... it's the Raiders, Storm and Cowboys.

Cowboys crowds: Up on 2013.

Bulldogs crowds: Down on 2013.
Roosters crowds: Down on 2013.
Souths crowds: Down on 2013.
Cronulla crowds: Down on 2013.
Manly crowds: Down on 2013.

Who's failing crowds, Tim? Sydney's always had plenty of games per round. And still the crowds plummet. What's the next excuse, Tim? Per capita? Smashed by the Cowboys again.

 

[franklin2323]

Your points are valid. But.

That Bulldogs v Penrith crowd was hilariously crap.

We drew 15k earlier in the season. Guess what a day game and an actual RL ground not the 15m from the sideline garbage ANZ gives you. Bulldogs fans came to that in force like Timmah said you don't need to go to only home games in Sydney