Crowd Watch Mk 3

[azza29]

Lack of crowd mics has been a problem for a while, the atmosphere rarely comes across on tv at most NRL grounds.

I noticed this after watching the replay of Melbourne vs Manly last week. Atmosphere at the ground was unbelievable but it definitely didn't come across in the broadcast. Crowd just sounded mildly excited.

As for last night, it's hardly surprising when 90% of the crowd are watching their team lose. I was up the opposite end to the Storm cheersquad (bought my ticket in July so was in a mixed bay) and it was dead apart from a few dozen Melbourne supporters. No amount of mixing will fix that.

 

[Timmah]

No, the 84K was just reached from temporary seating for SOO.

As someone who attended yesterday, I can confirm that temporary seating was reinstalled over the tunnels on the eastern side of the ground as well as the front few rows in the centre.

 

[Panther_Daz]

Less than 1000 tickets left for the Aus v NZ Test.

 

[1 Eyed TEZZA]

Fully agree.

I guess the only thing going againstthat is the fact Dogs v Eels was a Friday nightet.

And memberships weren't at the heights they're at now.

 

[Expansion]

Below is the crowd figures for the 2012 NRL Season in categories of timeslots.
Often it is argued that certain timeslots are better for crowd numbers than other timeslots without any real evidence,
this will either prove or disprove that. I have eliminated all one off timeslots.
For 2012 that means that the only Thursday night game will not be included, nor will one-off 7:00pm or 8:45pm matches.
All times are local times. Only includes the regular season.

NRL 2012 season

Friday 7:30pm-7:45pm
Total Games - 41
Total Crowd - 831,552
Average Crowd - 20,282

Saturday 5:30pm
Total Games - 18
Total Crowd - 254,595
Average Crowd - 14,144

Sautrday 7:30pm
Total Games - 33
Total Crowd - 482,594
Average Crowd - 14,624

Sunday 2pm
Total Games - 28
Total Crowd - 378,770
Average Crowd - 13,528

Sunday 3pm
Total Games - 25
Total Crowd - 441,207
Average Crowd - 17,648

Monday 7:00pm
Total Games - 24
Total Crowd - 424,483
Average Crowd - 17,687

While Some of the results surprsied me, particluarly the fact that both regular Saturday timeslots out perform the Sunday 2pm regular time slot,
I have decided to also add in, day time vs night time time slots for games that were played in the regular time slots.

Day
Total Games - 53
Total Crowd - 819,977
Average Crowd - 15,471

Night
Total Games - 116
Total Crowd - 1,993,224
Average Crowd - 17,183

The night time average crowd is higher than the daytime average crowds. So much for people loving their Sunday Afternoon football.

 

[Lockyer4President!]

Very cool.

I wonder how much the night time average is pulled up by the Broncos though.

 

[applesauce]

Would like to see just Sydney based Day v Night figures.

 

[Moffo]

Sunday games are more often then not played at suburban grounds..hence lower capacities

They are typically also the lower ranked games for the weekend.

No deal

 

[Diesel]

I'm surprised Monday out rates Saturday and Sunday however I guess scheduling made the Monday games attractive.

Thanks for that break down, is real interesting.

Would also be interesting to see what teams pull an decent away crowd. I'd expect the typical Sydney clubs, Broncos and maybe Warriors to pull a few extra.

 

[Expansion]

2012 Away Crowd Averages

St George Illawarra - 21,329
Manly - 19,669
South Sydney - 19,460
Canterbury - 18,782
Wests Tigers - 17,683
Parramatta - 17,238
Eastern Suburbs - 16,519
Brisbane - 16,119
North Queensland - 15,971
Newcastle - 15,512
New Zealand - 15,164
Melbourne - 15,059
Gold Coast - 14,967
Cronulla - 14,932
Penrith - 14,137
Canberra - 13,660

 

[Diesel]

Thanks Expansion.

Interesting to see Manly and Easts at #2 and #7 respectively which is surprising considering home crowds.

I guess it may also show it's easier to support your team "away" if your team is in the same city as its home.

 

[H.H]

Thanks Expansion.

Interesting to see Manly and Easts at #2 and #7 respectively which is surprising considering home crowds.

I guess it may also show it's easier to support your team "away" if your team is in the same city as its home.

We've always been quite well supported away and I believe this is down to the demographics of our supporter base. See:

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/easts.html

I also don't think our home crowds are as bad as people make out.

 

[ouwet]

2012 Away Crowd Averages

St George Illawarra - 21,329
Manly - 19,669
South Sydney - 19,460
Canterbury - 18,782
Wests Tigers - 17,683
Parramatta - 17,238
Eastern Suburbs - 16,519
Brisbane - 16,119
North Queensland - 15,971
Newcastle - 15,512
New Zealand - 15,164
Melbourne - 15,059
Gold Coast - 14,967
Cronulla - 14,932
Penrith - 14,137
Canberra - 13,660

Home Crowds are the main thing... Away crowds have to many factors... If teams don't play Brisbane away it effects away crowds, Manly playing NZ at Eden Park etc.

Home Crowd Averages

Brisbane - 33,377 (Pass)
Canberra - 10,190 (Fail)
Canterbury Bankstown - 23,572 (Excellent)
Cronulla - 13,234 (Fail)
Titans - 14,405 (Fail)
Manly - 14,593 (Pass)
Melbourne - 12,685 (Fail)
NZ - 17,111 (Excellent)
Newcastle - 20,919 (Excellent)
NQ - 14,415 (Fail)
Eels - 16,803 (Excellent)
Penrith - 10,858 (Fail)
Souths - 18,904 (Pass/Excellent in between lol)
St George Illawarra - 16,426 (Pass/Excellent)
Sydney Roosters- 12,482 (Fail)
Wests - 16,227 (Pass)

 

[ouwet]

Thanks Expansion.

Interesting to see Manly and Easts at #2 and #7 respectively which is surprising considering home crowds.

I guess it may also show it's easier to support your team "away" if your team is in the same city as its home.

Roosters playing St George 'away' for the ANZAC game helped that figure (40,000 at the game)... Same with Manly playing NZ at Eden park.

 

[Expansion]

Home Crowds are the main thing... Away crowds have to many factors... If teams don't play Brisbane away it effects away crowds, Manly playing NZ at Eden Park etc.

Home Crowd Averages

Brisbane - 33,377 (Pass)
Canberra - 10,190 (Fail)
Canterbury Bankstown - 23,572 (Excellent)
Cronulla - 13,234 (Fail)
Titans - 14,405 (Fail)
Manly - 14,593 (Pass)
Melbourne - 12,685 (Fail)
NZ - 17,111 (Excellent)
Newcastle - 20,919 (Excellent)
NQ - 14,415 (Fail)
Eels - 16,803 (Excellent)
Penrith - 10,858 (Fail)
Souths - 18,904 (Pass/Excellent in between lol)
St George Illawarra - 16,426 (Pass/Excellent)
Sydney Roosters- 12,482 (Fail)
Wests - 16,227 (Pass)

Relax mate. I posted these numbers after a request.

 

[franklin2323]

Roosters playing St George 'away' for the ANZAC game helped that figure (40,000 at the game)... Same with Manly playing NZ at Eden park.

That's the thing with these sort of stats. Time of the game has a big say in it. We always seem to get the Dragons on a Fri or a Mon night. Both of their grounds are difficult to get to in peak hour traffic. Penrith is great for me but the same would apply for our home games. The fixed draw should help with this.

 

[parrawentyfan]

The Dragons have always been known to pull well away from home. However, this year, in addition to the ANZAC game, you can probably add the final away match vs Parra, where around 45k turned up. Plus they had the 30k plus season opener vs Newcastle if I recall.

These two games would have had a big impact.

Anyone who didn't play Brisbane away would have suffered in these figures because of the draw.

 

[Frailty]

Home Crowds are the main thing... Away crowds have to many factors... If teams don't play Brisbane away it effects away crowds, Manly playing NZ at Eden Park etc.

Home Crowd Averages

Brisbane - 33,377 (Pass)
Canberra - 10,190 (Fail)
Canterbury Bankstown - 23,572 (Excellent)
Cronulla - 13,234 (Fail)
Titans - 14,405 (Fail)
Manly - 14,593 (Pass)
Melbourne - 12,685 (Fail)
NZ - 17,111 (Excellent)
Newcastle - 20,919 (Excellent)
NQ - 14,415 (Fail)
Eels - 16,803 (Excellent)
Penrith - 10,858 (Fail)
Souths - 18,904 (Pass/Excellent in between lol)
St George Illawarra - 16,426 (Pass/Excellent)
Sydney Roosters- 12,482 (Fail)
Wests - 16,227 (Pass)

Strong opinion there...

Manly 14,593 = Pass, NQ 178 less = Fail, Titans 188 less = Fail
Eels 16,803 = Excellent, Wests 576 less = Pass

So this seems to be your system

>16800 - Excellent
<14500 - Fail

So the difference between a fail and excellent mark is 2300? Really?

Except for Souths who are borderline Pass and Excellent for 18904....

 

[papabear]

takes into account on field performance as well.

 

[Perth Red]

I'm guessing he's using a subjective size of appeal of club ie 16k for Sharks would be excellent, 25k for Broncos would be a fail. Combination of performance during season, size of club/supporter base, stadium capacity & historic crowds would prob be the criteria needed.