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Crowd Watch, Part III

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Raiderdave

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You sure mate??? Have a look at the allocation below and tell me that according to that seating allocation the part that says "ANZ Stadium Members" only consists of 14,000 people. I'd be say it's almost 30,000.

http://premier.ticketek.com.au/dbimages/sfx92949.gif

30K :eek:
:lol::lol:

theres a maximum of 18,400 seats available to members .. & I understand about 4,000 approx. vacancies for memberships or extra tickets for purchase by members ATM


As seating is reserved at these events, both ANZ Stadium Members and Partner Members must book prior to the event to signify their
intention to attend. A ticket will then be issued to them. To book your tickets head to www.anzstadium.com.au/reciprocal.
ANZ Stadium alters the size of its Members’ Reserve, based on how many Members and Guests are attending, to a maximum of
18,400 seats in the Members’ Stand.
 
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Yosemite Sam

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Un like us desperates on forums

Think about all your friends.

How many are massive RL fans
How many are casual RL fans
And how many don't know shit about it

Is it really that popular ?

Well i know for a fact all my mates and family are RL mad. They talk about it every day, get fired up, buy merchandise and watch their team every week.

Number of games they've been to live this season? 0

Therein lies the problem. I'd confidently say there are just as many NRL fans out there as AFL fans, in fact I'd say there's even more. NRL just doesn't have that culture of attending live matches yet.

This is something that could take generations to change.
 

CC_Roosters

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I read today that the NRL clubs have gone to ground again in the finals, trotting out ex-players and officials were possible instead of the current squad.

Bottom line is the game is terrible at promoting itself, clubs don't want players to sell the matches through interviews to build the hype. HQ seem determined to let the biggest 8 games of the year go without ads on FTA and radio, while i still hear and see adverts for the GF which is sold out to the public
 

CC_Roosters

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Well i know for a fact all my mates and family are RL mad. They talk about it every day, get fired up, buy merchandise and watch their team every week.

Number of games they've been to live this season? 0

Therein lies the problem. I'd confidently say there are just as many NRL fans out there as AFL fans, in fact I'd say there's even more. NRL just doesn't have that culture of attending live matches yet.

This is something that could take generations to change.

I have mates who are hardcore fans of their clubs but they won't buy memberships and very rarely go to games if ever. They do watch their team every week and footy is always the primary conversation topic but its very frustrating; i have been to more games in my 3 years in this country than nearly all of my mates combined
 

Big Sam

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I read today that the NRL clubs have gone to ground again in the finals, trotting out ex-players and officials were possible instead of the current squad.

Bottom line is the game is terrible at promoting itself, clubs don't want players to sell the matches through interviews to build the hype. HQ seem determined to let the biggest 8 games of the year go without ads on FTA and radio, while i still hear and see adverts for the GF which is sold out to the public

Why should the clubs do anything when they get 0% of ticket revenue?
 

Brutus

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According to Ben Ikin of NRL 360, the Swans attracted 40,000 last weekend to their semi final.

Anything to make the NRL look worse than it actually is.
 

CC_Roosters

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According to Ben Ikin of NRL 360, the Swans attracted 40,000 last weekend to their semi final.

Anything to make the NRL look worse than it actually is.

Well it was still more than any of the NRL games so we haven't got a leg to stand on in that argument
 

Brutus

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Well it was still more than any of the NRL games so we haven't got a leg to stand on in that argument

Not combined it wasn't.

Double the amount of people in Sydney went to rugby league games last weekend than AFL games.

Just one week earlier a rugby league premiership game attracted 60k in Sydney. No AFL crowd in Sydney this year has come anywhere near that.
 
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Cumberland Throw

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I have seen one ad on Facebook only all week so far for Sydney final

Hey NRL do some farkin promotions

This could be 14k

How embarrassing
 

CC_Roosters

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Not combined it wasn't.

Double the amount of people in Sydney went to rugby league games last weekend than AFL games.

Just one week earlier a rugby league premiership game attracted 60k in Sydney. No AFL crowd in Sydney this year has come anywhere near that.

Yes combined it may have beat the swans but it was a terrible effort at each game crowdwise and that builds the perception of weakness and chaos

I agree with everything they said on 360 regarding the crowds and double header entertainment. Seriously there are several people who are paid to come up with gameday entertainment yet what kent did in 5 minutes on a piece of paper blew it out of the water.

double header = farce = never again

legends touch footy, autograph stalls, fair game stalls, beer tents & bbq's outside the ground, coaching clinics.......... the list goes on.

i hate inter code comparisons, but consider that Geelong v port adelaide got 52k at the MCG in their elimination final last week. Meanwhile we are struggling to break 20k by all accounts at each game this weekend in the same finals cirumstances.

Everyone should have a look at the NRL facebook page, everything they post including posts congratulating junior GF winners is being inundated by fans (mainly cowboys) who are either done with the game or extremely pissed off so zero interest in rest of the finals
 
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Brutus

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Yes combined it may have beat the swans but it was a terrible effort at each game crowdwise and that builds the perception of weakness and chaos

I agree with everything they said on 360 regarding the crowds and double header entertainment. Seriously there are several people who are paid to come up with gameday entertainment yet what kent did in 5 minutes on a piece of paper blew it out of the water.

double header = farce = never again

legends touch footy, autograph stalls, fair game stalls, beer tents & bbq's outside the ground, coaching clinics.......... the list goes on.

i hate inter code comparisons, but consider that Geelong v port adelaide got 52k at the MCG in their elimination final last week. Meanwhile we are struggling to break 20k by all accounts at each game this weekend in the same finals cirumstances.

Everyone should have a look at the NRL facebook page, everything they post including posts congratulating junior GF winners is being inundated by fans (mainly cowboys) who are either done with the game or extremely pissed off so zero interest in rest of the finals


This.
 

Big Sam

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Decrease in crowds due to poor form of popular sides

September 19, 2013

Roy Masters
Rugby League Columnist

Rugby league's take on a projected 2.9 per cent fall in crowds this year is akin to the response of those pathetic Ruddite federal parliamentarians who claim the election result would have been worse had Julia Gillard remained prime minister.

''Our crowds should have been down more,'' was the cry from NRL headquarters over its home-and-away attendance figures, mimicking the Labor spin on its lowest result in history. But unlike acting opposition leader Chris Bowen, who boasts the return of Kevin Rudd saved seats in western Sydney and Queensland, the NRL admits the surge of South Sydney to the top of the ladder has not saved the code from a dip in spectators. The ''when Souths are going well, the game is going well'' refrain does not stand up, certainly in terms of the premiership ladder and attendance figures.

Over the 2008-12 period, the Rabbitohs' home-and-away attendance has been consistent, with their minimum average crowd of 15,630 superior to the bottom attendance of 11 clubs and only 100 spectators shy of the worst five-year gates of the Bulldogs and Eels. This year's South Sydney stellar average of 21,668, couldn't cover the overall NRL fall of 2.9 per cent. It took the poor performance of historically big crowd-pullers - the Broncos, Dragons, Wests Tigers and Eels - to achieve that.

The Broncos' attendance fell 5.2 per cent (from 32,153 to 30,480) but the Dragons dropped a massive 24.4 per cent, Wests Tigers 29.4 per cent and the Eels 25.9 per cent. This year's average crowd in the NRL was 15,940, but to put this in historical perspective we have to look at 2005, the first year average attendances topped 16,000.

In that year, the top four on the ladder were (in order), the Eels, Dragons, Broncos and Wests Tigers and their big following helped produce an average NRL crowd of 16,458. Coming into round 25 this year, the bottom four clubs were the Broncos, Wests Tigers, Dragons and Eels. The Broncos then won a match, meaning by the end of the home-and-away season, for the first time, four of the bottom five positions on the ladder were occupied by traditional big crowd-pullers.

In the past 10 years, the worst result has been for only one of these four to finish in the bottom four. The Bulldogs, another club that consistently has turnstiles clicking, suffered a fall of 7.2 per cent (from last year's average of 21,107 to 19,590), despite making the finals. The Roosters, whose crowds rose 54.3 per cent from 12,548 to 19,368, along with the Rabbitohs (up 17.8 per cent), could not offset the fall by the bottom four. Only five clubs registered increases - the Raiders were up 0.4 per cent and the Sharks 1.8 per cent - with the Storm (27.9 per cent) the only NRL club to achieve Rabbitohs/Roosters-like rises.

Fixed scheduling must take some responsibility for the fall. The NRL set the draw for the first 20 rounds, unlike previous years where the broadcasters scheduled matches on a five-week cycle. However, the broadcasters did have a major input into the schedule, taking the blockbusters away from the early rounds and scheduling lesser-quality matches around Origin, producing a dip from which the code did not recover. To be fair, a motive in agreeing to one Friday night match after Origin, rather than double-headers, was to limit player burnout.

There were also more blow-out games this year, with 32 games having a margin of 30 points or more, compared with 18 last year. Finals numbers offer another comparison with Labor's election results. In the past 10 years, there have been only five occasions where a Sydney week-one finals match has attracted a crowd of more than 20,000.

This is a low base, similar to the number of seats Gillard had following the 2010 election where Rudd and his leaks pitted Queensland against her. But with all four games held in Sydney's main stadiums last weekend, the crowd was 21,000 for Rabbitohs-Storm; 32,000 for the double header and 23,000 for Bulldogs-Newcastle.

Unlike the Ruddites, the NRL is not crowing about the figures, lest it fuel the Queensland conspiracy theories that they want an all-Sydney grand final. Instead, NRL chief executive Dave Smith was facing up to the reality of the decline in regular-season attendance, saying, ''This has been a difficult year with unique challenges. We've seen some of our biggest-drawing teams struggle on the field, fans are adjusting to the fixed draw, there is the ongoing ASADA investigation and we have some clubs with some internal matters to address. Importantly, we are already working with clubs on strategies to grow our fan base and double club membership over the next five years.''

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...oor-form-of-popular-sides-20130918-2tzsw.html
 

Brutus

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This season has been a record-breaking year for crowds.

Origin total = record

Biggest ever premiership crowd

51k for Souths v Dogs

I guess we can at least put a spin on it :)
 

SLRBRONCOS

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This season has been a record-breaking year for crowds.

Origin total = record

Biggest ever premiership crowd

51k for Souths v Dogs

I guess we can at least put a spin on it :)

Also , imagine if teams like the Broncos, Dragons, Wests and Parra were doing well.
 

Cumberland Throw

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Wow what a negative week for the NrL

What's the best way to cap off this shit week

Oh year 32,000 empty seats at a semi on Friday

Can't wait
 
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