Crowd Watch, Part III

[t-ba]

This season is on pace to be the 3rd worst since 2005. If it drops another 200 it'll be the worst in 9 years.

Hey merkinstable MENSA , weren't you the one dragging that ancient saying about the game going well if Souths go well recently?

And ten seasons ago it would have smashed previous records. Like I said, if it goes another season, then yes, sound the klaxons.

For those who remember there were people wailing and gnashing their teeth at the end of 2006 because the frankly anomolous 2005 average was not met. All this wailing is eerily similiarto that crapping on.

We have big drawing teams like Saints, Wests, Parra and Brisbane playing like sh*t. There are three established crowd drawing sides in the top ten, and sides with big bandwagons like the Warriors and Raiders are playing to inconsistently.

f**king relax people...

 

[Fire]

Crowds schmouds.

f**k the crowd Nazis.

 

[franklin2323]

the cowboys will cop the flack

Warriors, Raiders, Storm, Cowboys, Titans, all had 100 fans in total. I assume Broncos will have 200-300 in 2 weeks. Make these crowds 98% Panthers fans.

Lets add say 3 we haven't had at home Bulldogs, Manly, Sharks in their place would of brought atleast 1-5k extra fans per game. Doesn't make the crowds much better but just where it is.

 

[beave]

Yeah 'cause thousands of away fans travel to NQ for games.............:roll:

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Warriors, Raiders, Storm, Cowboys, Titans, all had 100 fans in total. I assume Broncos will have 200-300 in 2 weeks. Make these crowds 98% Panthers fans.

Lets add say 3 we haven't had at home Bulldogs, Manly, Sharks in their place would of brought atleast 1-5k extra fans per game. Doesn't make the crowds much better but just where it is.

Away fans is a excuse for poor crowds imo, the majority at the stadium will be home supporters and few away typically. The fact some people blame away supporters for low crowd at times when it should be the home supporters to not showing up.

The Cowboys get scapegoated for poor crowds in NSW whenever then there since it's a easy excuse to blame them when it's the laziness of the supporters to not show up no matter the position/opposition on the ladder. (Souths/Cows for example)

In particular in 'heartland' areas where reliance on away fans should be kept to a minimum since there should be a core home foundation that can provide a respectable crowd aleast.

 

[BunniesMan]

Hey merkinstable MENSA , weren't you the one dragging that ancient saying about the game going well if Souths go well recently?

And ten seasons ago it would have smashed previous records. Like I said, if it goes another season, then yes, sound the klaxons.

For those who remember there were people wailing and gnashing their teeth at the end of 2006 because the frankly anomolous 2005 average was not met. All this wailing is eerily similiarto that crapping on.

We have big drawing teams like Saints, Wests, Parra and Brisbane playing like sh*t. There are three established crowd drawing sides in the top ten, and sides with big bandwagons like the Warriors and Raiders are playing to inconsistently.

f**king relax people...

Do you have a job? Do you have KPIs?. Would your employer tolerate a 4% drop in a key KPI when that employer has recently announced targetting a significant increase in that KPI?

And 2013 is completely different to 2006. 2006 was a dropoff from an anomalous year like you said. 2013 is showing a dropoff from numbers that have frankly stagnated for close to a decade. Very different scenario.

 

[Phil McGrawhan]

Do you have a job? Do you have KPIs?. Would your employer tolerate a 4% drop in a key KPI when that employer has recently announced targetting a significant increase in that KPI?

And 2013 is completely different to 2006. 2006 was a dropoff from an anomalous year like you said. 2013 is showing a dropoff from numbers that have frankly stagnated for close to a decade. Very different scenario.

Sticking your neck out there.

 

[Sgt. Kabukiman]

Do you have a job? Do you have KPIs?. Would your employer tolerate a 4% drop in a key KPI when that employer has recently announced targetting a significant increase in that KPI?

Your job sounds like fun. Can I have a Big Mac, please?

 

[neutralsupporter]

Does anyone else find it ironic that the one guy who's probably never been to an NRL game in his life bangs on about bad crowd numbers?

 

[franklin2323]

Yeah 'cause thousands of away fans travel to NQ for games.............:roll:

So Cowboys v Broncos are never highest crowds of the year up there?

No though the only team up there is Cowboys. You guys do great for crowds all things considered.

Sydney is different facts are Sydney teams generally draw well against others (aside from Souths v Mel anyway).

Though put simply no one wants to pay $25 for the crap we have dished out for 10 years.

The cheap tickets for tonight should be every game no just online on the gate as well.

 

[Fire]

:lol::lol::lol: at posts #508 and #509.

 

[Teddyboy]

Do you have a job? Do you have KPIs?. Would your employer tolerate a 4% drop in a key KPI when that employer has recently announced targetting a significant increase in that KPI?

And 2013 is completely different to 2006. 2006 was a dropoff from an anomalous year like you said. 2013 is showing a dropoff from numbers that have frankly stagnated for close to a decade. Very different scenario.

Correct 2006/2007 were great years for crowd's for League but it's just 2005 was as you say anomalous year.

 

[Fire]

I just spoke to Dave Smith. He told me even though there is a 4% drop in crowds, he doesn't give a f**k and the world will keep spinning.

 

[Big Sam]

Here are some crude comparisons between this year currently and last year in terms of averages:

Brisbane - down by 2k
Canberra - no real change
Canterbury - down by 2.5k
Cronulla - slightly up
Gold Coast - down by 500
Manly - down by 1k
Melbourne - up by 4k
Newcastle - down by 3k
New Zealand - down by 500
North Queensland - down by 500
Parramatta - down by 4k
Penrith - down by 500
South Sydney - down by 1.5k
St George Illawarra - down by 4k
Sydney - up by 7k
Wests - down by 5k

http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2012.html
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2013.html

The clubs who are noticeably down are the ones with a big dip in on-field performance i.e Wests, Brisbane, and St Merge.

Newcastle, Canterbury, and Souths should be higher given their club's position (although each has big home matches to come).

 

[Fire]

That's how powerful Saints are, when our crowds are down, the whole NRL is down.

 

[Teddyboy]

Here are some crude comparisons between this year currently and last year in terms of averages:

Brisbane - down by 2k
Canberra - no real change
Canterbury - down by 2.5k
Cronulla - slightly up
Gold Coast - down by 500
Manly - down by 1k
Melbourne - up by 4k
Newcastle - down by 3k
New Zealand - down by 500
North Queensland - down by 500
Parramatta - down by 4k
Penrith - down by 500
South Sydney - down by 1.5k
St George Illawarra - down by 4k
Sydney - up by 7k
Wests - down by 5k


http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2012.html
http://stats.rleague.com/rl/crowds/2013.html

The clubs who are noticeably down are the ones with a big dip in on-field performance i.e Wests, Brisbane, and St Merge.

Newcastle, Canterbury, and Souths should be higher given their club's position (although each has big home matches to come).

Compare 2013 with 2010.

 

[Fufu Andronez]

I was at the Gosford game today (pissed that my team got beaten since I travelled to watch them) but the crowd wasn't to bad id say there was a 10k/2k manly/warriors/neutral fan split.

If Souths can get 10k to turn up for their home game and the manly people come back out it will be a pretty good atmosphere with that stadium filled.

 

[t-ba]

Do you have a job? Do you have KPIs?. Would your employer tolerate a 4% drop in a key KPI when that employer has recently announced targetting a significant increase in that KPI?

And 2013 is completely different to 2006. 2006 was a dropoff from an anomalous year like you said. 2013 is showing a dropoff from numbers that have frankly stagnated for close to a decade. Very different scenario.

My job is as real as the Joey Johns poster above your racing car bed. I don't hace KPIs, I have working visa renewal meetings...do you have KPI's down at the sheltered workshop?

2013 is the anomoly mate. Failing to get that? Crowds have been trending up in a lean time for our competitors, and considering the fact a barely coherent strategy for crowd growth is not even a year old, these things can hardly be criticized. This year is drift. You hardly saw Wayne Jackson, the real brains behind the AFL's growth, crying like a bitch because of a comparatively shitty set of crowds such as 2002. And that was with a laid out long term plan for crowds funded by a good TV deal...

As I said, relax losers. There hasn't even been a strategy yet. These things take years...not days like some of you seem to think.

 

[elbusto]

My job is as real as the Joey Johns poster above your racing car bed. I don't hace KPIs, I have working visa renewal meetings...do you have KPI's down at the sheltered workshop?

2013 is the anomoly mate. Failing to get that? Crowds have been trending up in a lean time for our competitors, and considering the fact a barely coherent strategy for crowd growth is not even a year old, these things can hardly be criticized. This year is drift. You hardly saw Wayne Jackson, the real brains behind the AFL's growth, crying like a bitch because of a comparatively shitty set of crowds such as 2002. And that was with a laid out long term plan for crowds funded by a good TV deal...

As I said, relax losers. There hasn't even been a strategy yet. These things take years...not days like some of you seem to think.

Spot on mate.

 

[Teddyboy]

My job is as real as the Joey Johns poster above your racing car bed. I don't hace KPIs, I have working visa renewal meetings...do you have KPI's down at the sheltered workshop?

2013 is the anomoly mate. Failing to get that? Crowds have been trending up in a lean time for our competitors, and considering the fact a barely coherent strategy for crowd growth is not even a year old, these things can hardly be criticized. This year is drift. You hardly saw Wayne Jackson, the real brains behind the AFL's growth, crying like a bitch because of a comparatively shitty set of crowds such as 2002. And that was with a laid out long term plan for crowds funded by a good TV deal...

As I said, relax losers. There hasn't even been a strategy yet. These things take years...not days like some of you seem to think.

So the first blueprint for ARL success was in 1982 with Arko and co and took about 6 years before the game started to grow e.g. Tina Turner year's but was twatted back down with SL war which it took the game to recover 6 years and at the same time as the RWC 2003.

So now I got to wait 6 years for the NRL to be back at it's best.

One thing you can say about Rugby League is that despite the game dying it has a habit of coming back back and biting you on the c**k.

Judging from popularity maybe SOO should be a different code from Rugby League.