D day for Parramatta

[Parra]

Wow you really are melting down

You are swallowing the Greenberg line. Not me.

 

[LESStar58]

So I keep hearing predictions, or suggestions, that Parra will/should give up on this year and focus on 2017.

So the Eels wont be playing for points unless they are under the cap. What if they are not under by next round ?

Surely the NRL cant just let them continue to field a non-compliant team. It's bad enough that they have already beaten teams this year whilst over the cap, but it can be argued that the NRL didnt know they were over, until this week.

However moving forward, how could the NRL knowingly let the competition continue to be compromised ? The threat of playing for no points is not enough, when it clearly disadvantages other teams.

If the Eels continue to attempt to field a non-compliant team, the NRL must step in and not allow that to happen. Perhaps they could temporarily de-register the player/players that were last to join the roster, to enforce they cant play over the cap.

Thoughts on this ?

They've been told no points while over the cap or while the 5 officials are still at the club.

They have Schubert working with them which tells me the NRL DO care about maintaining the integrity of the comp.

If it takes a month to get sorted out then they don't compete for the period. As I said earlier in the thread they have a week to get squared up. Plenty of time and plenty of leniency offered. Its Sharp, Boulous, Anderson etc that are at risk of holding things up by getting injunctions.

If the five are too proud or arrogant, want to put their own interest and ego ahead of the members and supporters and are too stupid to see how their own self interest is going to be damaging to people beyond themselves in the long run then Parramatta should just give it away from 2016. At least there's some eels fans and identities (Sterlo, Guru Jnr, Price etc) and some Eels fans in here that know the five should just give it away.

The directive is there; get cap compliant, the directors need to be moved on or there will be no points. If the Eels want to thumb their nose at the NRL and fight despite the assistance given to them then maybe the NRL should just keep handing out fines or sanctions until they do get it right.

Short of that, all opposition supporters should turn on the Eels en masse, wave money at the players and basically have utter contempt for them the same way Melbourne did.

Any Storm fan will tell you it isn't pleasant, but if clubs don't learn a lesson from went down in Melbourne then f**k 'em.

 

[El Diablo]

So I keep hearing predictions, or suggestions, that Parra will/should give up on this year and focus on 2017.

So the Eels wont be playing for points unless they are under the cap. What if they are not under by next round ?

Surely the NRL cant just let them continue to field a non-compliant team. It's bad enough that they have already beaten teams this year whilst over the cap, but it can be argued that the NRL didnt know they were over, until this week.

However moving forward, how could the NRL knowingly let the competition continue to be compromised ? The threat of playing for no points is not enough, when it clearly disadvantages other teams.

If the Eels continue to attempt to field a non-compliant team, the NRL must step in and not allow that to happen. Perhaps they could temporarily de-register the player/players that were last to join the roster, to enforce they cant play over the cap.

Thoughts on this ?

Bulldogs and the Storm competed with teams that were over the cap all year

 

[Usain Bolt]

I think Parra will probably have to release 3 or 4 players to get to the 570k mark. Say if they release a player who was on 600k, because 7 months of his salary has been paid it'll be a 250k saving on the cap, however that player needs to be replaced in the top 25 squad and the minimum wage is 80k for a first grade player, so if Parra did that they'll end up saving 170k on the cap. They'd still need to chop 400k to become compliant.

 

[El Diablo]

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...finalise-salary-cap-plan-20160505-gong2h.html

Parramatta's internal point man on fixing their cap dilemma - former NRL salary cap auditor Ian Schubert - has produced a plan to take to headquarters.

Fairfax Media has been told by sources at the Eels that they were under the cap by $200,000 as of last month. Schubert's latest sums, which include the exit of Ryan Morgan to Melbourne and third-party deals they've subsequently been breached for, are understood to have them in a best-case scenario having to shed about $150,000 from their roster.

The retirement of Watmough would easily cover that, particularly if the NRL agreed to backdate his career-ending injury and remove his full $700,000 contract from this year's figures.

"I've got no doubt in my mind what I have to do if it comes to that, and if it comes to that I've got no hesitation in doing the right thing by the club," Watmough told Channel Nine on Thursday night.

The Eels believe there are some anomalies in the way the NRL has calculated their cap position including some entries being double counted and are looking to work through them with salary cap auditor Jamie L'Oste Brown.

The NRL indicated on Thursday their cap blowout could be revised during the preliminary breach notice period based on discussions with L'Oste Brown, with a similar development occurring last year when a $525,000 fine for other cap excesses was later reduced to $465,000.

With Watmough's retirement appearing to be the problem solver the principal stumbling block for the Parramatta players remains the legal action taken by chairman Steve Sharp, directors Tom Issa and Peter Serrao, chief executive John Boulous and football operations manager Daniel Anderson against the NRL. The five are back in court on Friday after being granted an injunction against suspensions that were handed to them as they were asked to show cause why they should not be deregistered.

Another Eels director, Parramatta Lord Mayor Paul Garrard, said on Thursday the club would be "disputing a lot of what is in the breach notice" and maintained they were under the cap for this season.

"I support the documentation put forward by Ian Schubert and there clearly needs to be some interpretation of the breach notice in terms of the figures they've presented," Garrard said.

"They haven't given us any metrics of what they are, where they come from. It wasn't in the breach notice where they got the figures from."

Garrard was confident, however, that Arthur's team would be playing for points against Souths.

"A dialogue will be created between the NRL [and the club], and it will need to happen smartly, to enable the Anthony Watmough issue and the salary cap issue to be addressed prior to tomorrow week and to get that team on the field," he said.

 

[Pete Cash]

Haha the eels should be kissing the ground Greenberg walks on. Cheat the cap for years and he hit by a wet lettuce leaf as punishment.

 

[Parra]

Those two spoons were a giveaway.

Hope they take them off us. I'll take an asterix anyday.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Haha the eels should be kissing the ground Greenberg walks on. Cheat the cap for years and he hit by a wet lettuce leaf as punishment.

Romaine lettuce is the Brett Mullins of lettuces

 

[El Diablo]

Haha the eels should be kissing the ground Greenberg walks on. Cheat the cap for years and he hit by a wet lettuce leaf as punishment.

remind us what punishment Canberra got after cheating and winning a premiership?

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Todd Greenberg the type of plodder to think mayonnaise is dairy cos its the same colour as milk

 

[THE CHAMP]

remind us what punishment Canberra got after cheating and winning a premiership?

Careful this type of post creates massive salt with raiders fans.

 

[duck_dodgers]

Ryan Morgan released and signed with Storm. Not sure what he was worth? Short term deal with option to return next season. And so it begins.....

And another player moves into the top 25 on probably a similar amount .
It's not as simple as moving on choc & Morgan & only having a top 23 in the cap .
Still has to be the top 25 paid players .

 

[El Diablo]

Careful this type of post creates massive salt with raiders fans.

or they refuse to answer the question and pretend it never happened

are they the only team that was caught cheating the salary cap when they won a premiership and still got to keep it?

they have a long history of cheating http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...raiders-plan-quick-appeal-20130705-2phgs.html

a team would have cheat the cap by $2,720,000 in 2016 to do the equivalent of what Canberra did in 1990

imagine the uproar if a team did that today and got to keep their premiership :crazy:

 

[bileduct]

remind us what punishment Canberra got after cheating and winning a premiership?

At least our cheating delivered premierships instead of wooden spoons.

 

[El Diablo]

At least our cheating delivered premierships instead of wooden spoons.

if any team was 40% over the cap they would win a premiership

you are the sinle biggest cheats in RL history. no other team comes close

and for 6 out of 8 years you cheated the cap recently and didn't even make a GF :lol:

 

[bileduct]

if any team was 40% over the cap they would win a premiership

Good thing we still have it too.

 

[El Diablo]

so you're proud of cheaters?

 

[Walt Flanigan]

Careful this type of post creates massive salt with raiders fans.

Well that depends.......have you googled when our last premiership was yet?

 

[bileduct]

so you're proud of cheaters?

As long as we still have the premiership, who cares.

 

[Rhyno]

His last sentence was....
"Thoughts on this?"
You may be right however.
It can be,considered idiotic to ask posters like yourself and ryano their thoughts.

Who dat?