D day for Parramatta

[Parra]

Surely one answer would be to offload a star to a SL club for remainder of season and have them come back next year? Leeds are rich and desperate.

Do what Easts and Souths do. Send the best player you have to RU for a cash-in period and then they can just waltz back into the squad without any issue at all.

 

[Perth Red]

That'd work lol

Re the court case, my understanding is that they aren't claiming they have done nothing wrong but that the NRL does not have the legal right to dismiss board and employee members of another company. Is this correct? You would assume this was an agreement in the club license with the NRL surely?

 

[yobbo84]

Do what Easts and Souths do. Send the best player you have to RU for a cash-in period and then they can just waltz back into the squad without any issue at all.

Yeah, no issue. We only had to get rid of an Australian rep, an SOO rep and a former SOO rep to accommodate...

 

[El Diablo]

That'd work lol

Re the court case, my understanding is that they aren't claiming they have done nothing wrong but that the NRL does not have the legal right to dismiss board and employee members of another company. Is this correct? You would assume this was an agreement in the club license with the NRL surely?

the NRL have no right to control the Parramatta Leaues Club

the Football Club and Leagues Club used to separate but Denis Fitzgerald changed that

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/n...n-loyal-servants/story-e6frfgdx-1111118039043

But the biggest change was an extraordinary motion, passed in 2001, for the leagues club to assume control of the NRL team from the football club.

The move favoured a duplication of both boards, given the football club's control has subsequently been reduced to only the Harold Matthews and S G Ball sides following the advent of the NRL-controlled Toyota Cup and

if Greenberg had half a brain he'd demand they be separated again

 

[MarkC]

the NRL have no right to control the Parramatta Leaues Club

How Parra want to arrange their affairs us up to them.

The NRL simply dictates what they need to do to participate in the competition and earn points.

Club politics can be a problem for most clubs from time-to-time, there is not much the NRL can do about that except dictate the rules and standard that must be meet to participate in the competition.

 

[Parra]

How Parra want to arrange their affairs us up to them.

The NRL simply dictates what they need to do to participate in the competition and earn points.

Club politics can be a problem for most clubs from time-to-time, there is not much the NRL can do about that except dictate the rules and standard that must be meet to participate in the competition.

Were you an NRL cheerleader when they did their best to sink Cronulla?

f**k cheering for the administrators.

 

[Miller was a legend]

No one is cheering for the wankers.

 

[CowboyFuriousFury]

Parra got it easy compared to the Storm, helps being a 'heartland' club and being in competition with the WSW and GWS Giants the NRL gave them a light punishment. The NRL didn't want to alienate Eels support but had no problem lowing the boom on the Storm and make there 2010 season irrelevant. The Eels should just accept the punishment and move on, they got it easy compared to the Bulldogs & Storm.

 

[Babyface O'reilly]

Parra got it easy compared to the Storm, helps being a 'heartland' club and being in competition with the WSW and GWS Giants the NRL gave them a light punishment. The NRL didn't want to alienate Eels support but had no problem lowing the boom on the Storm and make there 2010 season irrelevant. The Eels should just accept the punishment and move on, they got it easy compared to the Bulldogs & Storm.

Not sure that was in the NRL's thinking cos they could've gone soft on Storm as they're a lone club struggling to get market share in a strong AFL environment. That said, I agree. Parra should take their medicine and move on.

 

[Card Shark]

Parra got it easy compared to the Storm, helps being a 'heartland' club and being in competition with the WSW and GWS Giants the NRL gave them a light punishment. The NRL didn't want to alienate Eels support but had no problem lowing the boom on the Storm and make there 2010 season irrelevant. The Eels should just accept the punishment and move on, they got it easy compared to the Bulldogs & Storm.

You summed it up pretty well.

 

[Captain Apollo]

The following was published earlier today on the ABC news website -

Cameron Smith commends NRL boss Todd Greenberg over handling of Parramatta salary cap fiasco

Updated about 2 hours ago
Thu 5 May 2016, 3:04pm

Melbourne and Australia captain Cameron Smith has applauded the NRL for thoughtful handling of Parramatta's salary cap fiasco.

Smith and the Storm were stripped of two premierships in 2010 due to salary cap breaches and were forced to play out the season for no competition points.

He said it was a good move by the league to avoid a replay of the Storm's predicament.

The Parramatta players have been left with a glimmer of hope for their 2016 season, despite having their 12 competition points stripped this week, while the club was fined $1 million for cap breaches and five Eels officials face deregistration.

The Eels can begin to accrue competition points if they shed approximately $570,000 off their current roster, which may be aided by the retirement of Anthony Watmough on medical grounds, and coach Brad Arthur said the playing group would zero in on winning 12 of their final 15 games to reach the finals.

Smith, who will lead Australia in Friday's mid-year Test against New Zealand, had high praise for the governing body's approach to the Eels' violations.

"I must commend (NRL chief executive) Todd Greenberg and his staff for the way they've gone about it," Smith told Triple M.

"They've done a thorough investigation into what's happened at the Parramatta club. And the decision that they've made, they had the fans in mind, they had the players and the coaches in mind as well.

"It's great that they've been given the opportunity to make something of their season and they haven't taken away any sort of hope or purpose for 2016."

Smith recalled how tough it was to play the 2010 season without the incentive of points.

"It was a pretty low feeling," he said.

"I'm very happy that the Parramatta players, the club and their fans have been given the opportunity to play for points this year if they do get back under the cap."

AAP

 

[The Mad Hatter]

It will be interesting if the NRL strip points, put on sanctions mid season.

Paras season will be neutered.
Clubs having already lost to para will be demanding the two points.
News Ltd will put nrl in corner saying all manner of Western Sydney crap with many a mention of GWS and WSW juggernauts.
Foran and Arthur speculation aplenty.
Fans of para will burn down pirtek.
Perth Red will call for an eels cull; bring in perff.
Hindy to be put up as boss of new para board.
Cam Smith will call for calm, plenty of salty tears.
IBM won't have heard of any of this.

Hindy on the board yet?

 

[Captain Apollo]

Parra got it easy compared to the Storm, helps being a 'heartland' club and being in competition with the WSW and GWS Giants the NRL gave them a light punishment. The NRL didn't want to alienate Eels support but had no problem lowing the boom on the Storm and make there 2010 season irrelevant. The Eels should just accept the punishment and move on, they got it easy compared to the Bulldogs & Storm.

It also might be for people to consider that:

(a) In 2010, the NRL Board was comprised on nominees from the ARL and New Ltd. We have a completely different Board in charge of the game now as none of the current ARLC Commissioners were on that board; and
(b) In 2010, the CEO and Staff of the NRL were completely different people. None of the senior staff from 2010 are still around.

Yes Parramatta got it easy, but even in the legal world, precedents do not carry on ad-infinitum either. They change and evolve.

 

[Perth Red]

Parra got it easy compared to the Storm, helps being a 'heartland' club and being in competition with the WSW and GWS Giants the NRL gave them a light punishment. The NRL didn't want to alienate Eels support but had no problem lowing the boom on the Storm and make there 2010 season irrelevant. The Eels should just accept the punishment and move on, they got it easy compared to the Bulldogs & Storm.

It is undoubtebly a softer punishment but maybe the NRL has learnt from the Storm fall out? Making the same mistake twice isnt very bright!

re the parra directors, at this point I'd be going back to seperating leagues club and NRL club roles, at least they'll keep one of their jobs!

Surprised the NRL doesnt have a governance structure requirement for NRL licenses that prohibits this for just this scenario

I wonder if the club had a private owner if they have the possibility of removing the license from that owner if things went turkey?

 

[MarkC]

Were you an NRL cheerleader when they did their best to sink Cronulla?

f**k cheering for the administrators.

I'm not an NRL cheer leader.

But the NRL has handled the Parra situation much better than the previous admin handled the Storm.

All I am trying to say is the NRL has made it perfectly clear what Parra need to do to earn points in the comp.

It is a good thing that Parra have a chance to participate in the rest of the season, they should take the chance with both hands.

That is infinitely better than the Storm playing for zero points.

I want to see Parra back playing for points with a legal team ..... not saying it is easy ... but they should make the tough decisions required.

 

[ek999]

Were you an NRL cheerleader when they did their best to sink Cronulla?

f**k cheering for the administrators.

Yeah the NRL really screwed Cronulla. What happened to Essendon is so much better

 

[Snappy]

So I keep hearing predictions, or suggestions, that Parra will/should give up on this year and focus on 2017.

So the Eels wont be playing for points unless they are under the cap. What if they are not under by next round ?

Surely the NRL cant just let them continue to field a non-compliant team. It's bad enough that they have already beaten teams this year whilst over the cap, but it can be argued that the NRL didnt know they were over, until this week.

However moving forward, how could the NRL knowingly let the competition continue to be compromised ? The threat of playing for no points is not enough, when it clearly disadvantages other teams.

If the Eels continue to attempt to field a non-compliant team, the NRL must step in and not allow that to happen. Perhaps they could temporarily de-register the player/players that were last to join the roster, to enforce they cant play over the cap.

Thoughts on this ?

 

[Card Shark]

Hindy on the board yet?

He'd be devastated.

 

[Perth Red]

you would pretty miffed if you missed the 8 because of a loss to an over the cap Eels but then the teams that have lost to them so far this season can feel equally aggrieved. Maybe the answer was that they should have told them they had to shed to get under immediately or sit out some players back to NSW cup for rest of season?

 

[THE CHAMP]

One thing that stands out for me is junior paulo.
Have the raiders paid overs to secure him because the eels were over the cap?
I thought about this after the broncos signed folau from the cap cheating storm.