Daniel Anderson

[kia ora storm]

It could be a good move if..........

Anderson was wonderful with the Warriors. He had us playing our most solid footy since Ray Price wore the jumper when we had our late season rampage last year. If we had won the comp - i dont think he'd be in trouble now. Trouble is, last year he simply let Hayne do his thing on a free leash. This year he didn't train the others to actually work with him, and 26 rounds of "give it to Jarryd" just wasn't good enough.

But they have to replace him with someone better. Not a f*cking dope like Kearney.

With Ray Price on the board, they will constantly change things until they get it right. I remember when he got on the board in the early 90's and started bagging Cronin for poor performances. Crow wasn't a bad coach, but he wasn't Jack Gibson.

One other point - we often underachieved before - especially under Brian Smith - and the club did nothing. At least they are doing something this time.

A dope like Kearney...what the hell would you know about him to make that statement ??.

Stop ranting...

 

[Loudstrat]

A dope like Kearney...what the hell would you know about him to make that statement ??.

Stop ranting...

I know that with Wayne Bennet he can win world cups and without him he can't f*cking win the toss. I know as an asistant coach he looks good with a team twice as expensive as legally allowed, and under an alleged supercoach.

If he was quality - he wouldn't need Wayne Bennet to see the Kiwis play like they did under Frank Endacott.

You can term it however you want. The coach moves on because he feels too much pressure from the board. The board didn't show enough interest in keeping him. Parramatta need a super-coach for that coach to feel secure in his position. IMO, Parramatta have/had the makings of one in Anderson. Forgetting the Mateo rumours, it'd be Reagan clicking yes on dispatching Nukes on Moscow, too much of a sensitive move before really going through the process.

Rubbish. Smith signed for 5 years - and underachieved, and they simply didn't extend it. 5 years! They would have kept Gibson and Taylor and probably Monie too.

I remember the stories after the meek exit in 02 where Smith and the leadership group had to front the CEO and left with burning ears. And he still got 4 more years.

And glad Mateo has squashed the Hadley rubbish. It just didn't stack up.

 

[Noa]

A dope like Kearney...what the hell would you know about him to make that statement ??.

Stop ranting...

no, no, no Kia Ora.

 

[runatme]

hayne will be the new coach

 

[Iafeta]

:lol:

that's all you've got after being made to look like a fool

fact is no coaches have been fired/sacked

that is what you said happens

Ahh... no I didn't. You may wish to read it again. Not once did I say anything about coaches getting fired/sacked. If that is what you gleaned then you have completely misconstrued it. What I am I getting at is that there seems to immense pressure and instability mounted via the board/media about anyone associated with leadership at Parramatta. The culture of the club to me seems to be aim for a quick fix, and this would make coaching a long term strategy difficult.

 

[El Diablo]

Ahh... no I didn't. You may wish to read it again. Not once did I say anything about coaches getting fired/sacked.

It'd be no surprise. The culture of that club is rancid. Unless you are Wayne Bennett or have an unsinkable bank balance like Craig Bellamy, it usually takes time to get the team playing the way you want it. Every coach who seems to go to Parramatta seems to be treading lightly waiting for the bullet. If that's their prerogative, they either need to sign the doyen in Bennett, or they need to change their boards hiring and firing philosophy. Too many politics involved with that joint.

 

[Penrose Warrior]

I know that with Wayne Bennet he can win world cups and without him he can't f*cking win the toss. I know as an asistant coach he looks good with a team twice as expensive as legally allowed, and under an alleged supercoach.

If he was quality - he wouldn't need Wayne Bennet to see the Kiwis play like they did under Frank Endacott.

Do you have a tray attached to your keyboard to catch all the dribble?

What's he supposed to do, turn down Bennett's services? You don't have the foggiest how that partnership worked out, and who was the main influence/how much contribution Kearney made? Unless you have a WC winners medal? The players seem to rate him and I'll listen to them over an internet punter.

Last year's Anzac Test apart, where we always struggle, what has he done wrong?

And he certainly hasn't proven himself unworthy with the Storm, has he?

He may well turn out to be average but calling him a dope? Strikes me as ironic.

 

[Iafeta]

Fair enough El Diablo. I'm happy to accede. My comment when I wrote it wasn't meant to say firing (tho it obviously did), it was more a look at the constant pressure on the Eels at a coaching level by the media which I suspect is amplified through the board. My opinion is that it takes coaches time to build the structures they want, and build the team they want... unless we're dealing with a Bennett who is simply brilliant at what he does.

 

[Iafeta]

I know that with Wayne Bennet he can win world cups and without him he can't f*cking win the toss. I know as an asistant coach he looks good with a team twice as expensive as legally allowed, and under an alleged supercoach.

If he was quality - he wouldn't need Wayne Bennet to see the Kiwis play like they did under Frank Endacott.

I would much rather see Anderson remain. I'm biased for the simple reason that I feel he got a hard call at the Warriors. Last season he got the Eels to the Grand Final. That's a good achievement off the back of some outstanding form in England.

Stephen Kearney is however a sharp mind. You could see it even when he was playing. I have no doubt he can coach. As Penrose Warrior pointed out, not only did he win a World Cup with Bennett (Bennett from memory gave Kearney a lot of praise for his style, and I doubt Bennett would have stuck around following their mid season loss if he felt Kearney offered nothing), but the performance in the ANZAC test this year was extremely good. Much closer than a number of other coaches have been able to guide New Zealand to at that stage of the year.

 

[AlwaysGreen]

The first thing Parra should do is sack osbourne. That fat freak has been living off two passes for the last 16 years.

 

[big boppa eel]

It could be a good move if..........

Anderson was wonderful with the Warriors. He had us playing our most solid footy since Ray Price wore the jumper when we had our late season rampage last year. If we had won the comp - i dont think he'd be in trouble now. Trouble is, last year he simply let Hayne do his thing on a free leash. This year he didn't train the others to actually work with him, and 26 rounds of "give it to Jarryd" just wasn't good enough.

But they have to replace him with someone better. Not a f*cking dope like Kearney.

With Ray Price on the board, they will constantly change things until they get it right. I remember when he got on the board in the early 90's and started bagging Cronin for poor performances. Crow wasn't a bad coach, but he wasn't Jack Gibson.

One other point - we often underachieved before - especially under Brian Smith - and the club did nothing. At least they are doing something this time.

Rubbish, this is not a positive move.

 

[big boppa eel]

it'd be no surprise. The culture of that club is rancid. Unless you are wayne bennett or have an unsinkable bank balance like craig bellamy, it usually takes time to get the team playing the way you want it. Every coach who seems to go to parramatta seems to be treading lightly waiting for the bullet. If that's their prerogative, they either need to sign the doyen in bennett, or they need to change their boards hiring and firing philosophy. Too many politics involved with that joint.

Anderson is a very good coach. The turn around he instituted in auckland was fantastic. Poor coaches don't achieve what he did there. He then went to st helens and had a fantastic career there, earning accolades in the sporting community including from memory something like the uk coach of the year. First year back here he guides them to the grand final. Next year he's gone? That'd be rank bad management if true and only imo consigns them to more failures, particularly as no one would trust the board given the denials surrounding lining kearney up to replace him.

agreed.

 

[big boppa eel]

errr Smith was coach for 10 years

Neither Smith or Hagan were sacked by Fitzgerald

Anderson would probably be the first coach sacked. that wouldn't be Fitzgerald's doing though as he

Its common knowledge they were pushed out.

 

[big boppa eel]

I know that with Wayne Bennet he can win world cups and without him he can't f*cking win the toss. I know as an asistant coach he looks good with a team twice as expensive as legally allowed, and under an alleged supercoach.

If he was quality - he wouldn't need Wayne Bennet to see the Kiwis play like they did under Frank Endacott.




Rubbish. Smith signed for 5 years - and underachieved, and they simply didn't extend it. 5 years! They would have kept Gibson and Taylor and probably Monie too.

I remember the stories after the meek exit in 02 where Smith and the leadership group had to front the CEO and left with burning ears. And he still got 4 more years.

And glad Mateo has squashed the Hadley rubbish. It just didn't stack up.

You are full of sh*t regarding your above comments, sorry mate, but as I said Parra have pushed plenty of coaches dont understand how u cant c this.

 

[anjado]

Parramatta will be foolish to punt Anderson, There achievement making last year's Grand Final was a phenomenal achievement. Parramatta were an old side, with inexperienced halves and he took them very close to a premiership.

Some of the football his teams have played over the years be it at the Warriors, St Helens or Parramatta, Has been phenomenal really it would be a shame to lose a coach whose teams play really attractive football. Yes sometimes it falls apart but when it works i think it is pretty unplayable honestly.

Before you sack a coach the first thing you have to do is look at who could replace him, are the alternatives better.

In my opinion none of them are better, If Parramatta get rid of Anderson i hope he comes to Penrith.

 

[Noa]

Anderson is a hack, Parra would be wise to punt him.

He only made the semis, let alone the GF, due to Hayne and only a moron would go into a new season not showing anything new i.e. gameplan like he did.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Parra would be a total failure of a club without Jarryd Hayne,his great run of form last season was the reason for such great membership numbers this year and his late season surge of form this year was the reason Parra fans kept coming back for more because he was the only guy giving us a glimmer of hope.


Parra ran 12th and had a crowd average of over 17k,if you take Hayne out of that team Parra's crowd average would have been one of the worst in the league,no other player in that team gives Parra fans hope.



Parra will be a total joke if Hayne ever leaves that club.

 

[Noa]

Parra would be a total failure of a club without Jarryd Hayne,his great run of form last season was the reason for such great membership numbers this year and his late season surge of form this year was the reason Parra fans kept coming back for more because he was the only guy giving us a glimmer of hope.


Parra ran 12th and had a crowd average of over 17k,if you take Hayne out of that team Parra's crowd average would have been one of the worst in the league,no other player in that team gives Parra fans hope.



Parra will be a total joke if Hayne ever leaves that club.

 

[WaznTheGreat]

Its 100% true though


Do you honestly believe a 12th placed Parra team would have averaged over 17k if Hayne didn't play for them?

 

[Noa]

No ones that important mate.