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Darius Boyd at it again

Lambretta

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Oh that's right
He is sad this week because he never had a daddy or his "beloved" granny ( who's been in a nursing home for months ) is old this week.
Or he's finally discovered his mate is hurt .

Nothing to do with the person he looks up to most in the world is walking off.
That person had no idea he might feel a little sad from this ?
He was just the coach.
That's all....ey?

Everyone has been saying Boyd has issues for ages

Now he finally appears to have reached this conclusion himself and has sought help. Something he has obviously found difficult as he has real problems opening up and trusting strangers.

You yourself have pointed out he isn't quite right yet you see to be criticising him for trying to resolve his issues.

Is it some macho thing? Real men would just play on or do you honestly think he's a ok even though you've said he isn't?

I'm finding it hard to follow your argument.

Why can't we just wish him all the best to work through the problems that are eating at him and leave it at that?

Look on the bright side from your own point of view if it makes you feel better. Without him playing for the Knights the Sharks stand a better of avoiding the wooden spoon.
 

carcharias

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Everyone has been saying Boyd has issues for ages

Now he finally appears to have reached this conclusion himself and has sought help. Something he has obviously found difficult as he has real problems opening up and trusting strangers.

You yourself have pointed out he isn't quite right yet you see to be criticising him for trying to resolve his issues.

Is it some macho thing? Real men would just play on or do you honestly think he's a ok even though you've said he isn't?

I'm finding it hard to follow your argument.

Why can't we just wish him all the best to work through the problems that are eating at him and leave it at that?

Look on the bright side from your own point of view if it makes you feel better. Without him playing for the Knights the Sharks stand a better of avoiding the wooden spoon.

Where have I had a crack at Boyd?
Where have I criticised him for seeking help?
I was critisizing people blaming his childhood and shit purely for his situation.


I have only said Bennett should have been aware he'd had these issues.
 

Lambretta

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Where have I had a crack at Boyd?
Where have I criticised him for seeking help?
I was critisizing people blaming his childhood and shit purely for his situation.


I have only said Bennett should have been aware he'd had these issues.

Fair enough

It's not just his childhood IMO he has greater issues, many of them appear to have surfaced far more recently

As for Bennett being aware, no one can read minds. I have known people bottle up stuff and appear ok face to face and then crack up in private. Sometimes no one knows, especially those you respect the most as you don't want to disappoint them. In many respects Bennett could possibly have been the last to know
 

muzby

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Where have I had a crack at Boyd?

here:

Poor Darius
Tried to look like a hipster
But ended up looking like a terrorist.

and here:

Change of clubs ?

Following the one coach?

Doubt it

It is f**king farked up.


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next question?

Where have I criticised him for seeking help?

here:

haha
It's all just a coincidence that the week Bennet bails Boyd ends up in a mental health facility.


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next question?

I have only said Bennett should have been aware he'd had these issues.

actually, you haven't said bennett should have been 'aware', you've pretty much blamed him for it, here:

Bennet should take a bit of ownership on how he has brainwashed this bloke into following him around.

and here:

Bennett needs to take some blame here.

He has let this bloke follow his every move his entire adult life.
It is f**king sick.
 

DJShaksta

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What was the actual damage to the hotel room?
Have there been any details released yet?
It's gone awfully quiet on that front..........
 

muzby

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$1,500 isn't really much damage in the grand scheme of things... it's as simple as a knocked over TV...
 

ek999

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What was the actual damage to the hotel room?
Have there been any details released yet?
It's gone awfully quiet on that front..........

From memory of the article yesterday it was a broken TV, a hole in the wall and a broken glass or two on the floor

Edit: Indeed it was

“There was a television that had been smashed, a small hole to one of the walls and a broken wine glass was on the kitchen floor.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/nr...997920974?nk=9b035e26fd047477516b6ace3b0912fe
 

super_coach

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It is probably because when dealing with mental illness people have to hit rock bottom before they accept they have a problem and reach out for help. Hitting rock bottom can involve some pretty messed up stuff, it is just that the media will latch on to a RL player acting bad and chalk it up to bogan players.

I know about mental illness my wifes best friend has been in and out of Concord hospital for ten years and we are her only support as her family has wiped her.

My point is it seems to be the first response we get when a player goes off the rail that their is a mental illness. Everyone today has an excuse for their actions and its is never their fault. As I said before footballers do live in a fish bowl and I would imagine their are plenty of kids that do have problems, but I do think the word mental illness is thrown around as a scapegoat in SOME cases.
 

StormHi

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Thankyou!

Most people I've met with mental health issues are like yourself. I even tried to provide these idiotic forumers with an example of someone with mental health issues making light of their situation (Jamal Idris), but they were still consumed with political correctness. Absolute idiots. They let one comment ("crazies" - hardly offensive) override the viable proposal I made to remove the stigma of mental health in the game.

Just shrug it off mate and don't worry about em to much the doomsayers and political correctness brigade are just looking for attention at the expense of those who are actually suffering. Most of the time they just draw unwanted attention to the party suffering.

To be fair they also help raise awareness.

The people with intelligence enough to get what you where saying are only those that matter the rest of the booooo brigade can go suck a fat one.

I just honestly hope he is recognizing he has issues and isn't using it as an excuse like Barba.

I think one of the biggest issues with mental illness in Australia is a severe lack of understanding and sympathy for the sufferers. All very well to say how poor Boyd. But unless you understand the depth of hopelessness and sorrow depression causes and how utterly useless it makes you. A poor guy post kinda sounds rather hollow. I used to call him a pea heart for his on field efforts but if he is really suffering what people are saying he suffers from to peform the way he has carrying that weight on his shoulders The man is a f**king LION.
 

carcharias

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nice try muzby but we both know you have misquoted me .
You have quoted things I'd posted before Boyd going to rehab was made public.
I was responding to an accusation that I had had a crack at him about going to rehab... so .

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Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Where have I had a crack at Boyd?
here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Poor Darius
Tried to look like a hipster
But ended up looking like a terrorist.
and here:

true the beard looks f**ked. Posted before rehab was made public.

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Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Change of clubs ?

Following the one coach?

Doubt it

It is f**king farked up.

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true - the following of the coach to every club is farked up. Again posted before rehab was made public.


next question?

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Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Where have I criticised him for seeking help?
here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
haha
It's all just a coincidence that the week Bennet bails Boyd ends up in a mental health facility.

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true - that was in response to people saying that Bennet leaving is not connected to Boyd's current situation. I don't see where I have had a crack at him either...I didn't say he was full of it and using this as an excuse for trashing the hotel room like many others have. I truely believe he has massive issues.
That was evident from the time he started doing those ridiculous tv inteviews. He could have just refused to do them instead of being a dick . Looked like a Bennet impersonation from his Broncos days.
Then there was the crying on Bennets shoulder in the change rooms. Right there Bennet should have twigged.



next question?
I stand by my comments 100%.
I did not soley blame Bennet for this.He is a part of the problem. ..( now that he has quit the knights ) and he should have realized this could happen. Almost everyone else could see it was going to.

Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
I have only said Bennett should have been aware he'd had these issues.
actually, you haven't said bennett should have been 'aware', you've pretty much blamed him for it, here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Bennet should take a bit of ownership on how he has brainwashed this bloke into following him around.
and here:

Quote:
Originally Posted by carcharias View Post
Bennett needs to take some blame here.

He has let this bloke follow his every move his entire adult life.
It is f**king sick.

Anyway I hope he gets better, rehab for depression is shit at first.
He wont love mandatory group time.
 

muzby

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nice try muzby but we both know you have misquoted me .
You have quoted things I'd posted before Boyd going to rehab was made public.

so you're saying it's okay to have a crack at him as a person & his decisions, so long as it was before the news of his depression went public?


which is pretty much the behaviour of the media as well..

it's essentially bully behaviour.. pick on someone to the point of cracking..

but then once they've cracked, try to make out as if they've done nothing wrong...

what makes it any different? if it's not ok to bully someone after they've cracked, what makes it okay to bully them before hand?
 

carcharias

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so you're saying it's okay to have a crack at him as a person & his decisions, so long as it was before the news of his depression went public?


which is pretty much the behaviour of the media as well..

it's essentially bully behaviour.. pick on someone to the point of cracking..

but then once they've cracked, try to make out as if they've done nothing wrong...

what makes it any different? if it's not ok to bully someone after they've cracked, what makes it okay to bully them before hand?

well firstly I was pointing out how you had misquoted me.
Being called or having someone insinuate that I am a liar kind of irks me.
I was also pointing how I HAD NOT made fun of him for going to rehab.
It doesn't matter if you think it is ok or not .

as for the rest of the bully and media stuff.
It that were the case ever single sharks player , staff member and fan would be in ward 13.
 

muzby

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well firstly I was pointing out how you had misquoted me.
Being called or having someone insinuate that I am a liar kind of irks me.
I was also pointing how I HAD NOT made fun of him for going to rehab.
It doesn't matter if you think it is ok or not .

as for the rest of the bully and media stuff.
It that were the case ever single sharks player , staff member and fan would be in ward 13.

the excuse of "it's okay to do because everyone else is doing it" doesn't really hold water..
 

POPEYE

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the excuse of "it's okay to do because everyone else is doing it" doesn't really hold water..

Think you'll find there are more 'for' than 'against' Boyd. Easier to stick up for the bloke than stick it up him because very few people have a f**king clue, only those with mirrors that tell fibs continue to piss their pants about something they know sfa about
 

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