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Discussion with Pete Nolan

DeanPay98

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Why do you feel Kearney is a bad coach?

I suspect that Lingard thinks that Kearney is a bad coach because (i) Lingard has a brain, (ii) he can read a scoreboard, (iii) he's actually watched the games this year, (iv) he can remember what it was like when we were coached by a real coach .... oh ... and he doesn't have a personality disorder!!

#JustSaying
 

Poupou Escobar

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I suspect that Lingard thinks that Kearney is a bad coach because (i) Lingard has a brain, (ii) he can read a scoreboard, (iii) he's actually watched the games this year, (iv) he can remember what it was like when we were coached by a real coach .... oh ... and he doesn't have a personality disorder!!

#JustSaying

Hi Deanpay98!

#KeyboardPsychiatrist
 

emjaycee

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One thing that would interest me though is whether you felt more confident in the on-field future or not following the call?

From reading your initial post with the parts Nolan allowed you to share about his take on the "system" etc didn't fill me with any confidence at all - quite the opposite I'm afraid. Am interested in your own take on that (without breaking any confidneces of course), if you were happy to share.

Bart, hopefully the below is what you are after.

If I was to be honest, personally I feel that if the goal is an immediate win with no foundation for long term success, i would be disappointed with where we are and what we are doing.

If the goal was long-term success and development of a solid base to build from, then I would be satisfied that the business is putting the right things in place. Does this guarantee success, no. There are market factors that every business faces as both challenges and opportunities and it is how you deal with these and what preparation you have done that determines your success. Rugby League is no different. You lose players you want to keep, you get injuries to key players, etc. It is how well you are prepared to deal with them that makes the difference.

For all the negative comments we see on here, I personally am confident that a solid base is being built. Doesn't mean it will work but at least it is being attempted.
 

Poupou Escobar

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I'm heartened by that post emjaycee - it's exactly what I wanted in a new coaching team. I wanted long-term success, not a quick fix.

Obviously all the whingers just have higher standards. Either that or they know how easy it is to build a club for sustained success. Maybe they should tell Wayne Bennett, because he looks like he's struggling.

Brian Smith took us to the finals in his first year in charge.
 

Casper The Ghost

First Grade
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I'm heartened by that post emjaycee - it's exactly what I wanted in a new coaching team. I wanted long-term success, not a quick fix.

Obviously all the whingers just have higher standards. Either that or they know how easy it is to build a club for sustained success. Maybe they should tell Wayne Bennett, because he looks like he's struggling.

Brian Smith took us to the finals in his first year in charge.

Daniel Anderson took us to the Grand Final in his first year in charge.
 
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I'm heartened by that post emjaycee - it's exactly what I wanted in a new coaching team. I wanted long-term success, not a quick fix.

Obviously all the whingers just have higher standards. Either that or they know how easy it is to build a club for sustained success. Maybe they should tell Wayne Bennett, because he looks like he's struggling.

Brian Smith took us to the finals in his first year in charge.

as i have said before i never expected us to make the top 4 this year but i did expect some kind of gradual improvement not even you can argue that we have gone backwards from last year
 

Casper The Ghost

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A couple of quick fix coaches. Either of them ever won a premiership?

At least Smith leaves clubs in better shape than he found them. Unlike Anderson and Hasler.

Oh yes I went there. :shock:

You are so full of shit Poo Poo.
DA wanted a contract extension so he could implement his long term plans. Instead he gets some of the board of directors and the CEO plotting to out him during the 2010 season. This destabalised DA on many fronts and caused a lot of upset amongst the squad. DA had no plans to leave the club in a shimozzle. He is too professional for that as can be seen by his dignity and closed mouth since being outed. Daniel Anderson was forced out by others and the state of the club was now the sole responsibility of the CEO & the board of directors. If DA was not forced out and was given the contract extension the club would more than likely today be in very good shape.

Honours

Dally M Coach of the Year 2002
NRL Grand Finalist 2002 , 2009
Challenge Cup Winner 2006 , 2007, 2008
Super League Grand Final Winner 2006
BBC Coach of the Year 2006
World Club Challenge Winner 2007

Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Anderson_%28rugby_league%29
 

DeanPay98

Juniors
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I'm heartened by that post emjaycee - it's exactly what I wanted in a new coaching team. I wanted long-term success, not a quick fix.

Obviously all the whingers just have higher standards. Either that or they know how easy it is to build a club for sustained success. Maybe they should tell Wayne Bennett, because he looks like he's struggling.

Brian Smith took us to the finals in his first year in charge.

By those standards you are definitely not getting long term success. We've had 35 games under Kearney for 27 losses and 7 wins and one draw. That is a debacle of epic proportions when you consider the calibre of the coach he replaced. At best you might get delayed success, but that is quite a different thing to long term success.

We had long term success under Brian Smith from 1997-2002. In retrospect even 2003 doesn't seem so bad if you factor in the injuries. And then from 2005-2009 with four different coaches we still made two prelim finals and one grand final.

What I think we need to consider is the relationship between the bad old days of 1991-1995 and the long term success of 1997 to 2009. Did enduring 1991-1995 lead us to the 1997 to 2009 period? Other than the simple passage of time, I don't think so. It took the Super League war to revamp Parramatta's roster and then a new coach to put in place the structures etc to turn the roster and the juniors into real success.

All that is happening at the moment is that Kearney is leading us into a 1991-1995 type of period. There is nothing to indicate that the short to medium term failures will lead to prolonged success. In fact, its likely that the opposite will occur.

What you still haven't done, after months of supporting Kearney, is to point out what Kearney has done that will clearly lead to long term success.
 
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