Damn you CC, you deliberately tried to confuse people didnt you :twisted:Munky said:Awe sh!t , I automatically pushed yes to the question in the title and not the one in the poll.
Phillips said:yes, not all rap though, mostly aggresive stuff like Eminem, DMX, Xzibit, D12, Cypress Hill, Redman etc
i dont like that hip hop/rap sh*t that sounds like a little girls signing e.g. Chingy :lol:
Point taken about R&B, I hate the modern commercial shit. Although I thought most of the 70s/early 80s names you mentioned were soul? Or are they one and the same? Prince is most definitely a genius though.LESStar58 said:The thing that creases me though is what people define as r 'n' b. Example, people plugging Justin Timberlake as an R&B artist....do fu ck off! That prissy choirboy is about as r&B as I am rastafarian! Also It seems like the minute you put a microphone in the hand of an African-American and they start singing its considered R&B (*DISCLAIMER: previous comment was made without an racial discrimination whatsoever. It is merely my POV and I am expressing it)....call it rap but don't confuse it with a style that has produced some of the best known names in music....Stevie Wonder, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, James Brown and Ray Charles to name but a few. What is considered R&B today is watered down, pop laced, image driven garbage. Destiny's Child are R&B? Hell no! The only person who has, in my opinion, distilled the essense of what R&B is and bought it to 21st century audiences is Prince....hes a genius...oh, and Wycleff Jean.
Melstar said:Damn you CC, you deliberately tried to confuse people didnt you :twisted:Munky said:Awe sh!t , I automatically pushed yes to the question in the title and not the one in the poll.
Generally I like rap, but obviously there are exceptions to that. As with every genre there are certain artists that are not appealing but for the most part I enjoy listening to it
SpaceMonkey said:Point taken about R&B, I hate the modern commercial sh*t. Although I thought most of the 70s/early 80s names you mentioned were soul? Or are they one and the same? Prince is most definitely a genius though.LESStar58 said:The thing that creases me though is what people define as r 'n' b. Example, people plugging Justin Timberlake as an R&B artist....do fu ck off! That prissy choirboy is about as r&B as I am rastafarian! Also It seems like the minute you put a microphone in the hand of an African-American and they start singing its considered R&B (*DISCLAIMER: previous comment was made without an racial discrimination whatsoever. It is merely my POV and I am expressing it)....call it rap but don't confuse it with a style that has produced some of the best known names in music....Stevie Wonder, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, James Brown and Ray Charles to name but a few. What is considered R&B today is watered down, pop laced, image driven garbage. Destiny's Child are R&B? Hell no! The only person who has, in my opinion, distilled the essense of what R&B is and bought it to 21st century audiences is Prince....hes a genius...oh, and Wycleff Jean.
LESStar58 said:SpaceMonkey said:Point taken about R&B, I hate the modern commercial sh*t. Although I thought most of the 70s/early 80s names you mentioned were soul? Or are they one and the same? Prince is most definitely a genius though.LESStar58 said:The thing that creases me though is what people define as r 'n' b. Example, people plugging Justin Timberlake as an R&B artist....do fu ck off! That prissy choirboy is about as r&B as I am rastafarian! Also It seems like the minute you put a microphone in the hand of an African-American and they start singing its considered R&B (*DISCLAIMER: previous comment was made without an racial discrimination whatsoever. It is merely my POV and I am expressing it)....call it rap but don't confuse it with a style that has produced some of the best known names in music....Stevie Wonder, Sam Cooke, Marvin Gaye, Aretha Franklin, James Brown and Ray Charles to name but a few. What is considered R&B today is watered down, pop laced, image driven garbage. Destiny's Child are R&B? Hell no! The only person who has, in my opinion, distilled the essense of what R&B is and bought it to 21st century audiences is Prince....hes a genius...oh, and Wycleff Jean.
I consider the names I mentioned from the 60s 70s and 80s to be R&B artists. While I'm thinking about it you can throw in guys like BB King and Robert Johnson as R&B...but all these farkwits who get around in Von Dutch hats and Eminem clothes still call all this new sh it "R&B". I work with a girl who goes to clubs andI ask her what they play and she says R&B and I then throw my argument which is "that is NOT r+b!". But I see where you are coming from SpaceMonkey....James Brown is defientley soul and funk but to me its all R&B...funk is funk through the bass line, bass = rhythm. Go figure...it doesn't take a rhodes scholar!