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The Dragons, because like us in 2020 they were building. The 2009 Eels were a dead cat having its final bounce.
To win the comp you need luck, but you need a lot less of it if you finish in the top four.
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The Dragons, because like us in 2020 they were building. The 2009 Eels were a dead cat having its final bounce.
The point I’m making is that you have to judge someone on what they have demonstrated. So far the team has shown that they can bumble their way to the finish line and fall over it against mediocre teams for the last 2 months or so. If you’re going to hand wave that away and say we are finals bound and then it’s a whole new competition then it’s no different to saying the Dragons are in finals contention and could win the premiership. Those statements are both *factually* true but you know that’s not the full story. I dare say you don’t think the latter because you’re judging them on what they’ve demonstrated. I think you should apply the same standards to our team when judging them because saying we are currently third and the finals are a whole new competition is being extremely disingenuous.
Only if you think 3rd and 12th are no different because they're both numbers.
I’m not sure what you mean by that. The Dragons aren’t coming 12th. You seemed to be saying as long as teams are in finals contention (or more arbitrarily top 4) then that supersedes what they demonstrate on the field. If that was the case the Dragons shouldn’t have sacked their coach if potential table position carried that much weight.
They were when McGregor got the arse. I dare say if we were running 12th Arthur's would be gone too.
Top four gets two bites of the cherry, so it's not especially arbitrary. And it's not just the position on the ladder at any given point in time, but the general trajectory of the team. We have been winning ugly and just copped our only flogging of the season, to a team full of Origin players in key positions. Souths are also now a top four team in terms of for-and-against. They are legit and in top form while we had one of our worst games against them. The footy is on again next week and we are certainties for the finals. We're also looking good for next year.
What’s the point of getting two bites at the cherry if you look like you could go out in straight sets? If you want to talk about the trajectory of the team we are going backwards. We’ve lost 2 out of our last 3 games and struggled to put away a Melbourne side missing half its players. The team was told that people weren’t taking them seriously because of the manner in which they were winning games and instead of making a statement they wilted badly. I think it’s incredibly naive to think things are going to get magically get better once the finals arrive until the side demonstrates it on the field.
As a team we lack experience, especially big match experience, and especially in key positions. That will only change from consistently winning more games than we lose. We're on a good trajectory though:
Three games isn't the kind of trajectory I'm talking about. In the context of judging coaches it is meaningless. Mal Meninga was a world beater over three games year after year. Coaching has next to zero effect over such a short period of time.
While it doesn’t hurt to have big match experience I think don’t think it’s a valid excuse to not win a premiership when the opportunity presents itself. This is about as good an opportunity our team is going to get and I hope we don’t waste it. There are no guarantees of an upward trajectory. Who would you say is responsible for constantly struggling to win games we should be winning every week and not getting better?
It’s not 3 games though. It has been 2
Experience???? Souths tonight had a bunch of kids in the centres and wings and absolutely murdered us. Of course you are happy with how we are travelling you were happy with how we were travelling in 2018 and making dumb excuse's then.
He had no answers then just like he has no answers now.
He was also a good politician for 3 min.
Are you glad he got a contract extension?
In all honesty I thought it was the right move but these past few weeks have been alarming and even the most loyal BA fans must be questioning the decision now.
And if not on contract? Umm no
