Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

[Barry O'Speedwagon]

A statue is built and named.
Hindy111 & @TheRam

I guess that's fair enough. Equal opportunity and all.

 

[strider]

Sack Wayne Bennett

 

[Gary Gutful]

When did Joey become the great half coach? I though it was Matty was the person who trained Cronk!

I think we need Matty, he was never brilliant and neither are our halves.

I didn't say he was a great halves coach. I said he was a great half. Sure, maybe Denis Moran is a better coach and we are missing out...

 

[Gary Gutful]

Part 1 has already been filmed. In Part 2 the coach gets sacked and is replaced by Wayne Bennett who urges him to stay on as an assistant. He doesn’t and ends up coaching the Tigers after Madge is sacked. He then is eventually sacked and becomes an Uber driver with Phil Economidis.

Yep and Wayne Bennett does exactly what he did at Newcastle and Souths and merkins lose their shit.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Sack Wayne Bennett

Getting in early. Nice work.

#WorldsGreatestDeathrider

 

[Gary Gutful]

He's a silly old f**ken skeleton.

 

[TheRam]

I've changed my vote to "no", for one simple reason:

I truly believe that in Ryan Matterson, and Shaun Lane, we have two excellent edge forwards (maybe the envy of a lot of the NRL).

But we hardly use them I'm attack; although Dylan Brown was using Lane in a lot of his attacking plays, they were always the same plays (Brown gets the ball, runs, straightens, pops a pass before the line to Lane).

Our forward pack is our crown jewel, and we can play physical football, or football with flair - but we often tend to play panic football.

It's true that a lack of experience is hurting us; however, I think Arthur needs to devise some better attacking structures with his support staff.

Until he can do that, I'm off him a bit.

He's done a tremendous job all around - but seeing our squad play so unimaginatively really makes me sad. There is so much talent in this team.

This is exactly how I feel too. There is a hell of a lot of power and talent in our team, but all we seem to use is the power side, to the point that by the end of the season, we are just worn out and flat.

If our coaches could harness and unleash the talent side, we would coast into the semis still at our peak and ready to rumble.

Moses is the key.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

This is exactly how I feel too. There is a hell of a lot of power and talent in our team, but all we seem to use is the power side, to the point that by the end of the season, we are just worn out and flat.

What a dumb f**king argument. Players rest between games. They're either fresh and ready to go or they're injured. The idea that an extra ten minutes or a couple more carries by a front rower is the reason he isn't as effective later in the season is bullshit. The reason is because defences adapted to our style as the season went on, as well as adapting to the refs putting away the six again call.

 

[TheRam]

He was smart enough to get the greatest ever half to play the game on the payroll. If our halves don’t improve it won’t be because they weren’t given every opportunity to.

The thing with certain players, they need a football whisperer type to get them to the next level. A Gould or Bennett type to get into their ear and over time and patience help them to achieve that consistency that is lacking in their game.

I remember Gould saying how he used to sit with Freddy and mentor him for hours about not just football, but life and anything that would come up, like a second father. He would do this at training, at home and after heavy losses, wherever and whenever needed. He ended up turning him from that brilliant but lazy mostly centre and into the best 5/8th in the world.

And now Bennett is doing the same for L. Mitchell. This is what it takes sometimes to consistently tap into the talents of certain gifted but burdened with to much head noise individuals. It takes the right person to bring them a long, but eventually they grow and work it out for themselves and can move on from under their mentors umbrella.

Moses is ripe for this type of mentoring right now in his development and is screaming out for it actually as we can see with all the extra training and better attitude stuff he has been doing for the last couple of seasons. But as much as fitness will help and improve his game somewhat, fitness alone is not his issue. He needs the right kind of personal mentor to clear his mind of all those internal demons. But is either BA or AJ these types of mentors. I can't see it. So with a player like Moses, he will have to work it out for himself. So far he has struggled to find the right balance. We will know more by the end of this season.

The clock is ticking.

 

[TheRam]

What a dumb f**king argument. Players rest between games. They're either fresh and ready to go or they're injured. The idea that an extra ten minutes or a couple more carries by a front rower is the reason he isn't as effective later in the season is bullshit. The reason is because defences adapted to our style as the season went on, as well as adapting to the refs putting away the six again call.

The 6 again obviously has some bearing on any game, but the rest of your nonsense is just that. To look at a players output as "just an extra carry or 10 mins is moronic and simplistic.

Did you hear some of the players themselves suggest that they ran out of steam towards the end of the season and they have adjusted their training schedule this season because of it? What I am suggesting is to use that immense talent that many of our players possess but rarely ever display and finesse their way through games as well as using their collective power.

This would also ensure that they aren't just bashing and barging their way through games which obviously takes its toll on their bodies towards the end of a torrid season.

When you can blow away a team on the score board and not regularly capitulate those points towards the backend of games then you take the fight out of most opposition teams. But if you rely on bash and barge and don't have much else to offer, teams then they feel that as soon as that sting is out of your game and they get a decent share of the ball, they can come back and over take you. Which is what has happened on many occasions to us.

This is where we need our playmakers to stand up and manage(finesse) the many talents in our team to maintain the lead and go on to a comfortable victory.

Note: A power game of bash and barge also affects your energy level when defending. The impact is right across the board not to mention the eventual injury toll it will create as those bodies get tireder and older over time.

 

[Gronk]

The thing with certain players, they need a football whisperer type to get them to the next level. A Gould or Bennett type to get into their ear and over time and patience help them to achieve that consistency that is lacking in their game.

I remember Gould saying how he used to sit with Freddy and mentor him for hours about not just football, but life and anything that would come up, like a second father. He would do this at training, at home and after heavy losses, wherever and whenever needed. He ended up turning him from that brilliant but lazy mostly centre and into the best 5/8th in the world.

And now Bennett is doing the same for L. Mitchell. This is what it takes sometimes to consistently tap into the talents of certain gifted but burdened with to much head noise individuals. It takes the right person to bring them a long, but eventually they grow and work it out for themselves and can move on from under their mentors umbrella.

Moses is ripe for this type of mentoring right now in his development and is screaming out for it actually as we can see with all the extra training and better attitude stuff he has been doing for the last couple of seasons. But as much as fitness will help and improve his game somewhat, fitness alone is not his issue. He needs the right kind of personal mentor to clear his mind of all those internal demons. But is either BA or AJ these types of mentors. I can't see it. So with a player like Moses, he will have to work it out for himself. So far he has struggled to find the right balance. We will know more by the end of this season.

The clock is ticking.

Geeze you read between the lines and just fill in the blanks with your thought bubbles.

Did you read the article today where Joey took Moses to see Warren Ryan ?

 

[hindy111]

Geeze you read between the lines and just fill in the blanks with your thought bubbles.

Did you read the article today where Joey took Moses to see Warren Ryan ?

Link or I will report to mods for spreading fake news.

 

[Gronk]

Link or I will report to mods for spreading fake news.

It was posted this morning. F**k off.

 

[TheRam]

Geeze you read between the lines and just fill in the blanks with your thought bubbles.

Did you read the article today where Joey took Moses to see Warren Ryan ?

Just did. Brilliant article and exactly what I have been harping on about for a year or two at least.

He has the talent and we have the team. He just needs to work out how to best utilise it all and bring it all together. And like I have said, while others think that I am wrong and putting to much pressure on one player or that we don't have the overall talent to win it. The Wok agrees with me, we are close, "we just need something special to win a premiership". Moses is that something special if he can get it all together.

 

[hindy111]

It was posted this morning. F**k off.

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[TheRam]

Link or I will report to mods for spreading fake news.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/jo...et-session-driving-moses-20210311-p579py.html

What a brilliant article and what I have been saying all along. We are very close. It is now up to Moses to finally click and get it right. This is where having the right mentor is crucial in his development. Imagine having the Wok as our fulltime mentoring coach. Now there's a proposition I would get very excited over.

 

[hindy111]

Just did. Brilliant article and exactly what I have been harping on about for a year or two at least.

He has the talent and we have the team. He just needs to work out how to best utilise it all and bring it all together. And like I have said, while others think that I am wrong and putting to much pressure on one player or that we don't have the overall talent to win it. The Wok agrees with me, we are close, "we just need something special to win a premiership". Moses is that something special if he can get it all together.

We have the potential talent. At this stage Mahoney and D.Brown are not anywhere near some others in their positions.
Moses is hot and cold. Gutherson has energy and a great pass but lacks explosiveness. The 2nd rowers don't break the line. I think it's a solid squad. Unless Brown,Mahoney,Kafusi all went up a few gears which is possible due to age along with perhaps Penisini making his debut and killing it. Blake improving and perhaps Cartwright coming good then its just an ok squad. 6-12th but won't challenge the top dogs. Fingers crossed some of these young guys explode.

 

[hindy111]

Andrew Johns was a great player. Perhaps the best. But he has never kept a long term assistant coaching role and from what I gather not that highly sort after. Being a Newcastle boy I would of thought a job for life from the club in this kind of role.
Makes me wonder if he is that good at this type of job.

 

[TheRam]

We have the potential talent. At this stage Mahoney and D.Brown are not anywhere near some others in their positions.
Moses is hot and cold. Gutherson has energy and a great pass but lacks explosiveness. The 2nd rowers don't break the line. I think it's a solid squad. Unless Brown,Mahoney,Kafusi all went up a few gears which is possible due to age along with perhaps Penisini making his debut and killing it. Blake improving and perhaps Cartwright coming good then its just an ok squad. 6-12th but won't challenge the top dogs. Fingers crossed some of these young guys explode.

I agree with all of that if Moses doesn't come good. It is up to him to lead them out of trouble when we are on the back foot. They have to ability if he leads them the right way. Just like any other team. They need the right direction, especially when things are not going your own way. This is what the great playmakers provide.

I believe our squad has more then enough talent to win it IF Moses plays to his full potential. Which I agree, is a massive IF.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

He can stay, for now. We can revisit this at about 8:15 tonight.