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Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

  • Yes

    Votes: 109 48.0%
  • No

    Votes: 118 52.0%

  • Total voters
    227

hineyrulz

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My argument right now is that you fail to offer practical solutions. Which is demonstrated by your obsession with nepotism and what happened in the trial. Over to you.
Cini apparently was given the green light to have a run, I said if he was able to play surely him to the wing and Perham to the centres. It’s not ideal but it’s better than what we had Saturday night. It’s a post you conveniently ignored. You’ve said yourself you don’t want him in the 17 so how does it get to him being the only back up half in our top 30?? Ignore that one as well plastic jaw.
 

Twizzle

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Everyone including BA knows we need Drown back in 6 this weekend.
No one has come up with a viable option. All these commentators and social media experts have access to our squad list, who do they suggest we put there?
The only names I have seen tossed up are Cartwright and Matterson but they were both discounted by the person that proposed them.
C'mon Bwafe - tell us who you would play in the centres so Drown can go back to 6.

it's their job to create the controversy or discussion cuz it then creates the clickbait

its not their job to come up with the answers

I know I'm cynical when discussing the media but since Murdoch bought most of the media, it's not about keeping us informed, its about him making more money for himself
 

Gary Gutful

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To’o would destroy him just as much on the wing, maybe even worse. Did you watch him Saturday night?? Imagine Cleary bombing all game?? He’s only got the best kicking game in the NRL.
I’d prefer an option that doesn’t involve Perham or Arthur.
 

Gary Gutful

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it's their job to create the controversy or discussion cuz it then creates the clickbait

its not their job to come up with the answers

I know I'm cynical when discussing the media but since Murdoch bought most of the media, it's not about keeping us informed, its about him making more money for himself
Very few people run a business out of sheer benevolence. Except Bill Gates - he’s filled with the milk of human kindness.
 

Gronk

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Cini apparently was given the green light to have a run, I said if he was able to play surely him to the wing and Perham to the centres. It’s not ideal but it’s better than what we had Saturday night. It’s a post you conveniently ignored. You’ve said yourself you don’t want him in the 17 so how does it get to him being the only back up half in our top 30?? Ignore that one as well plastic jaw.
I didn't ignore it at all. In fact I questioned you on Crighton v Perham. It was then when you lost your lollies and went back to the trial and nepotism.

BTW I dont get the plastic jaw thing. Cos plastic bumper bars bounce back. Do better with your sledges please.
 

hindy111

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This continued JA topic is becoming boring.
Reality is in rnd 1 he was picked as our cover.

Forget Sivo and Haze being out. Opacic was in reserves.
If Marata and N. Brown where fit does he play? Probably not but who knows.

The moment Russel went down for 8 weeks was probably time we had to consider an outside back. But it isn't like we didn't have some cover. We still had Opacic.
But we would of know we had about 6 weeks without a suitable replacement if any more injuries in the backs. And 11 before Sivo.

Pretty tricky call at this point. We didn't know Blake would get hurt or Opacic. But even still what where we meant to do?

Sign a plodder? Sign a good player?
Had our injuries been season ending then I would go sure. But they where not.

So this week Russel and probably Opacic and Marata returns. And two weeks after most likely Blake and Sivo will be very close.

All of a sudden we are dropping 2 guys who are probably good enough for the NRL in Russel and Simmonson/Opacic.

Aslong as we do not cop anymore injuries we should have 3 genuine options before moving Brown. And that isn't including Perham.

I'd imagine Naiduki and Laizou also if good enough can push their own games towards a possible debut.

I doubt D.Brown plays centre again this season.

I also do feel that Bryce should be our utility. He brings x factor. Yes he may miss a tackle but sometimes you need points and if have the ball he could be the difference.
He also requires big minutes occasionally. These 12mins stints are ridiculous. He needs to get up to NRL speed.
 

hindy111

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Having Perham and Cini on one edge together would see Penrith score more tries down that side then we have all year.
But I guess that is ok, as long as Drown is five-eighth again.


Cini does break tackles and runs like a beast. But so many clubs have passed on him. Can only assume two things

Personality - A peanut

Defense - Huge flaws that clubs don't feel they can fix.
 

Gronk

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I’d prefer an option that doesn’t involve Perham or Arthur.
I agree, looks like we are analed.
So you can be sensible.

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strider

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Cini does break tackles and runs like a beast. But so many clubs have passed on him. Can only assume two things

Personality - A peanut

Defense - Huge flaws that clubs don't feel they can fix.
c) inexperience that you dont want partnered with more inexperience
 

Gronk

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Cini does break tackles and runs like a beast. But so many clubs have passed on him. Can only assume two things

Personality - A peanut

Defense - Huge flaws that clubs don't feel they can fix.
Also how is he under the high ball ? From what I saw in reggies he's OK if he has two feet on the ground but isn't real great leaping for the contestable high ball. Probs why BA shifted him to centre. Which was a telling move considering how short we were on wingers.
 

Eelementary

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Seeing as it would have only been a short-term solution until Russell/Opacic/Blake/Sivo were fit again, Matterson to centre, and Cartwright into the side, would have been the most obvious choice, imo.

Cartwright can be defensively frail, true - but he is a genuine First Grader, and this option allows us to have the least amount of disruption to the side.

I'm not blaming Jake for our loss, because it simply wasn't his fault - but I don't think anyone can reasonably say he is ready for regular First Grade at this stage.
 
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Cloeel

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Seeing as it would have only been a short-term solution until Russell/Opacic/Blake/Sivo were fit again, Matterson to centre, and Cartwright into the side, would have been the most obvious choice, imo.

Cartwright can be defensively frail, true - but he is a genuine First Grader, and this option allows us to have the least amount of disruption to the side.

I'm not blaming Jake for our loss, because it simply want his fault - but I don't think anyone can reasonably say he is ready for regular First Grade at this stage.

It depends on whether we would rather weaken our halves or further weaken our outside backs.
 

Poupou Escobar

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So we solve the halves problem by putting Dylan back at 6.

Then we put Cini on the wing and Perham in the centre. Happy ?

If you acknowledge that defence wins matches, then the first problem that needs to be resolved is the 36 missed tackles and the main culprit was Perham on the wing. Maybe Cini solves that. Maybe.

The next problem is Perham in the centre vs Stephen Crichton. Dylan could handle him. But he’s at 6 now…. You could play Matto there but the hulked version of matto is not the same guy as Matto who left us to go to the Roosters. Even if you do pick him, then our soft bench becomes softer.

It’s all about balance and weakening strengths etc. If you take the emotion and controversy out of team selections, there are no perfect solutions in this injury crisis. Amirite ?

“He’s not ready for first grade !” applies to other players too.
Merkins also miss the point that Arthur is a solid defender. He might be impotent in attack but his defence is good (every half misses tackles ffs so “Look he missed a tackle!” is disingenuous). Perham’s defence is less good and there’s a reason Cini was let go by two clubs in a year.
 

Gary Gutful

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As exciting as Jake @ 6 and Perham on the wing?? It doesn’t matter who goes where we are getting analed.
We don’t have the depth to adequately cover for the amount of backline injuries we’ve had.

Our best squad from 1-17 is shit hot but our backups aren’t as good as better teams back ups. For us to have a red hot crack at a premiership we can’t afford many injuries.
 

Eelementary

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It depends on whether we would rather weaken our halves or further weaken our outside backs.

Jake in the side as he is currently is weakening our halves, but allowing us to have a player in the centres who isn't out of place.

Matterson in the centres, with Cartwright replacing him, allows us to have our halves intact, as well as have a player in the centres with experience in the centres.

Obviously, we lose his runs in the middle, as well as including Cartwright (whose defence is questionable) - but Cartwright, for all his flaws, his a genuine First Grader, whereas - at this stage of his career - Jake is not.

To me, Matterson in the centres was always the more sensible move.

But it is, what it is.
 

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