Do you want Brad Arthur as coach

[oldmancraigy]

Genuinely curious to know how much every club spends on football operations.

Could you please provide a list (sourced)?

I've seen you say this before, and yet we have been among the wealthier clubs for some time. It feels like a furphy you use (one of many). Like it or not, our club is well enough resourced, the coach has been in the saddle 9 years, and so has the players and structures he wants. It appears there are many with a good nous for rugby league questioning his methodology - and I don't mean on a fan forum here.

Coaches in sports make a significant difference. BA is a good coach. But we now need a great coach.

Just replying to myself

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Here are the 2017 numbers.
You can find the 2019 numbers by navigating that same website to a Google sheets page. It also shows us a s a financially very strong club, with ample assets.

That is just me searching out of curiosity - I don't claim to be in the know and eagerly await Pou, who claims to have knowledge. I'm probably wrong, and will be interested to see his sources that demonstrate our weakness financially

 

[strider]

Just replying to myself

2017 NRL and Club Annual Reports - Sports Industry AU

NRL and Affiliates 2017 NRL Annual Report 2017 CRL Annual Report 2017 NSWRL Annual Report 2017 QRL Annual Report 2017 Touch Football Australia Annual Report Stadium Bodies Melbourne & Olympic Parks Trust SCG Trust Stadiums Queensland Sydney and Olympic Parks Trust 2017 Venues NSW Annual Report...

www.footyindustry.com

Here are the 2017 numbers.
You can find the 2019 numbers by navigating that same website to a Google sheets page. It also shows us a s a financially very strong club, with ample assets.

That is just me searching out of curiosity - I don't claim to be in the know and eagerly await Pou, who claims to have knowledge. I'm probably wrong, and will be interested to see his sources that demonstrate our weakness financially

So that would suggest we are just middle of the road

 

[hindy111]

If we lose today the season is over and hopefully that is the end of Brad.

Frank Burge is back with his 39th message.
A ball teaser too

 

[oldmancraigy]

So that would suggest we are just middle of the road

Aren't we 4th in terms of revenue, 4th in terms of PnL, 4th in gate takings - it appears to be showing the top clubs per category?
Rothfield article on foxsports from 2017 suggests we were the 3rd best placed club financially.
Things change over time, but if we have the highest membership and highest Sydney crowds, and a profitable leagues club, them middle of the road might not be so? Not sure. Maybe I am reading it wrong?

 

[Gronk]

Merkins: Brad is a great man manager, but he is stale and we need a change. Our shape is shit. We go side to side.
BA on Trent Barrett: he’s going to come on-board for us next year and work closely with our halves and he’ll take full reins with our attack.
Mad f**ker Merkins: Hopefully this is BAs last game. LOL @ Jakey. He’ll sign his 15 yo son Matt up for top 30 2023.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Don't forget we were being told that our attack was fine. Why are we bringing in Barrett if that was true?

 

[Gronk]

Don't forget we were being told that our attack was fine. Why are we bringing in Barrett if that was true?

Who said it was fine ? Have we won any match this year easy ? Not many.

Edit: I also think that we shift mostly to the left. That leaves Penisni on the right catching a cold.

 

[strider]

Aren't we 4th in terms of revenue, 4th in terms of PnL, 4th in gate takings - it appears to be showing the top clubs per category?
Rothfield article on foxsports from 2017 suggests we were the 3rd best placed club financially.
Things change over time, but if we have the highest membership and highest Sydney crowds, and a profitable leagues club, them middle of the road might not be so? Not sure. Maybe I am reading it wrong?

I dont know. Why do they only list about 7 clubs? ... where do the other half of the teams sit?

 

[lucablight]

I don’t think it matters. Have we lacked the resources to win a premiership? No we haven’t. So why are we overthinking this?

 

[strider]

I don’t think it matters. Have we lacked the resources to win a premiership? No we haven’t. So why are we overthinking this?

Because pou made a comment and you all desperately wanna argue with him

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It’s pretty well publicised how Payten changed his training methods during the off season.

Five words: post hoc ergo propter hoc. Crazy how the toughest preseason ever is only bullshit when teams don’t win.

Some of the new players in Townsend and Dearden weren’t exactly hot property when they were bought. The Cowboys were mocked for spending big money on Townsend.

So who was right? The mockers or the big professional sports club with a recent history of making grand finals? Townsend is a premiership winner with 200 NRL games ffs.

They have had a few players have break out seasons but the majority of their side is the same as last season.

You have to ask why they underperformed last year. Who was the coach ffs?

We did improve under Arthur from when he started and probably overachieved in 2017 and 2019 thanks to having easy draws but we seem to have gone backwards since early 2020. My “proof” for how we are not maximising our potential is the early to mid 2020 season and how we basically have the same core of the side as that season. That period should be the standard we play to in defence but it’s not even close to that.

Early 2020 saw significant changes to the way the game is played. It privileged fast forwards over big ones, and Penrith benefited while we were exposed.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Who said it was fine ? Have we won any match this year easy ? Not many.

Edit: I also think that we shift mostly to the left. That leaves Penisni on the right catching a cold.

I would be surprised if you hadn't done a bit of it yourself. And Pou's defence of our attack has been more staunch than Avenger's support of BA.

 

[Gronk]

I would be surprised if you hadn't done a bit of it yourself. And Pou's defence of our attack has been more staunch than Avenger's support of BA.

Cool so a few nobodies on the interweb.

I guess our attack is pretty good when we play Penrith or Storm. That can’t be argued.

 

[lucablight]

Five words: post hoc ergo propter hoc. Crazy how the toughest preseason ever is only bullshit when teams don’t win.

So who was right? The mockers or the big professional sports club with a recent history of making grand finals? Townsend is a premiership winner with 200 NRL games ffs.

You have to ask why they underperformed last year. Who was the coach ffs?
Early 2020 saw significant changes to the way the game is played. It privileged fast forwards over big ones, and Penrith benefited while we were exposed.

It would have been bullshit if they weren’t winning but they are. You can only go off what’s being demonstrated.
The grand final in 2017 becomes less significant than the near bottom of the table finishes in recent seasons. Aren’t you the one who acknowledges our grand final in 2009 was an anomaly rather than an indicator of our club going in the right direction? 2017 is exactly the same for the Cowboys.
The Cowboys fared badly in 2021 because as I said before coaches can have bad seasons as well. Case in point Brad Arthur in 2018. Payten obviously made some changes that are paying off for them now.
I don’t know what you mean by early to mid 2020 exposing us. We were 12-3 after 15 rounds. Then we dropped off a cliff and haven’t found it again except for a few brief flashes.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Genuinely curious to know how much every club spends on football operations.

Yes me too

Could you please provide a list (sourced)?

I can’t, but until you provide proof that the clubs are all spending the same I’m going to look at the uneven results over a decade or more and make the only logical assessment that the playing field isn’t level, as you imply. It’s an assertion that lacks evidence or logic.

I've seen you say this before, and yet we have been among the wealthier clubs for some time. It feels like a furphy you use (one of many).

Can you source this wealthier clubs statement? I don’t see how you could without knowing how much the privately owned clubs are spending, or having spent on their behalf.

Like it or not, our club is well enough resourced,

Agreed, I like making the finals every year. It’s very exciting.

the coach has been in the saddle 9 years, and so has the players and structures he wants. It appears there are many with a good nous for rugby league questioning his methodology - and I don't mean on a fan forum here.

Media types benefit from feeding drama.

Coaches in sports make a significant difference. BA is a good coach. But we now need a great coach.

Agreed. I don’t get why we can never bring them to our club. Just unlucky I guess.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Don’t take that as I am wanting us to lose , I would gladly eat humble pie if he could get us to a prelim but anything else has to be seen as not good enough , and I know someone will say what about luck but four semis in a row you would think the coin would land Parra once

If the coin lands wrong the first week you don’t get any more flips.

 

[I'm a loser baby...]

Cool so a few nobodies on the interweb.

I guess our attack is pretty good when we play Penrith or Storm. That can’t be argued.

Well you just had a rant about some other nobodies on the interweb.
Do we score a lot against either of them in normal circumstances? I'd say it's more defence/attitude.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Just replying to myself

2017 NRL and Club Annual Reports - Sports Industry AU

NRL and Affiliates 2017 NRL Annual Report 2017 CRL Annual Report 2017 NSWRL Annual Report 2017 QRL Annual Report 2017 Touch Football Australia Annual Report Stadium Bodies Melbourne & Olympic Parks Trust SCG Trust Stadiums Queensland Sydney and Olympic Parks Trust 2017 Venues NSW Annual Report...

www.footyindustry.com

Here are the 2017 numbers.
You can find the 2019 numbers by navigating that same website to a Google sheets page. It also shows us a s a financially very strong club, with ample assets.

That is just me searching out of curiosity - I don't claim to be in the know and eagerly await Pou, who claims to have knowledge. I'm probably wrong, and will be interested to see his sources that demonstrate our weakness financially

The lack of data from privately owned clubs makes clear that those reports don’t tell the whole story and are therefore misleading.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

So that would suggest we are just middle of the road

Which is what I said the other day. Whineyrulz takes the piss, calling us a tiny broke club but we are obviously mid-tier. Our long and short term results reflect this.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Don't forget we were being told that our attack was fine. Why are we bringing in Barrett if that was true?

Because we don't rest on our laurels or accept 'fine' when 'perfection' is achievable...or something like that.