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Does Cleary leaving end our season?

Penrose Warrior

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But does he have favouritism in terms of being the best coach, by the powers that be?

I know it'd be great if the fans get their man. I am a fan - I don't care if it's the bully that pushed me in the mud in standard four, as long as he's the best coach to get my team results.

It'd be a major mistake if the club didn't pick the best coach. I tend to think it's Bluey too, but I don't know anything of Iro. Berrigan certainly gave him a ringing endorsement on radio.
 

Micistm

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Bluey's the crowd favourite to take over. He is also available & keen to do the job.

It will be a major mistake if the club ignore this.

He deserves the shot, the unproven in NRL thing is unfair considering he's achieved success in the comps he's coached in. Sentimental fave as well, as he's an incredibly likeable guy.
So want the guy to do well after the shafting he got as Kiwi coach not so long ago, with the ****ed up heiracy tinkering.
I have such a sour taste with Cleary still there I gotta email the club and tell em!:lol:
 

Fast Eddie

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Doubt he would be under much pressure from the fans either, seems like he could miss the 8 next season and select terrible sides every week and I'd say most people on here anyway would be trying to justify the selections and go on about it's a building process :lol:. That been said I'd rather him over Tony Iro if it is really just down to those two.
 

hitman82

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To answer the original question again, Cleary leaving has gone a long way to ending our season, as I blame our massive form slump almost entirely on the coaching dramas.
A couple more losses would seal our fate outside the 8.
 

devoid

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Yep, agree hitman. I think we're at the critical stage of the season - the next two weeks decide 2011. Our last 5 games are all against teams currently inside the 8.
 

Penrose Warrior

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77% of Penrith fans on some site (think it may have been Daily Telegraph) voted they wanted Georgealis over Cleary.

Have fun Ive.
 

Rich102

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PENRITH is facing a full-scale player revolt over the snubbing of caretaker coach Steve Georgallis.
The club's most experienced players - Petero Civoniceva and Luke Lewis - are furious Georgallis was not even offered an interview and the opportunity to put his case.
And the other players feel the same way too.
Civoniceva was so upset when he heard of Ivan Cleary's appointment that he spent half the day from Queensland's camp on the Sunshine Coast ringing most of his Penrith teammates to discuss the decision.
I'm told he also let Gould know in no uncertain terms what he thought about the decision. Petero is as honest and as decent as any player in the NRL. He was of the understanding - and so were the players - that the popular Georgallis would be given at least a few weeks to press his claims for the job next year.
"It was very unlike Petero to get on the phone to discuss an internal issue," said one of the Panthers players before Saturday night's game against the Bulldogs

"He's genuinely upset for the coach and thought he deserved more of an opportunity. We all did. Yet none of us were consulted.
"Normally Petero would wait until after the Origin if there was an issue to discuss it face to face with the players - but he's really upset."
No sooner than the stand-in coach won his first game against the Johnathan Thurston's high-flying Cowboys he was told he's being overlooked for next year.
Luke Lewis has been telling his NSW teammates that he feels Georgallis has been dudded. He knows it's Phil Gould's right to choose whoever he wants as head coach but insists Georgallis has been misled from the original statements that were made when former coach Matt Elliot was sacked.
The Panthers showed on Saturday night the outstanding type of football they can produce under Georgallis. Even without Lewis and Civoniceva, they were never going to lose against a Bulldogs side that had much to play for but offered nothing.
It was a performance that showed Gould could finish up highly embarrassed if the Panthers make the top eight and give the competition a shake with a man in charge who he didn't want there.
"We'll be playing for Steve Georgallis for the rest of the year," one player said.
Gould would not return my text messages yesterday.
If Georgallis was the talk of the Penrith dressing rooms, next door in the Canterbury shed the pressure was mounting on Kevin Moore.
He has to make the top four to be assured of retaining his job next year but on Saturday night's performance they will finish closer to the bottom four.
Board members Paul Dunn and Barry Ward still support Moore, Another director Anthony Elias is undecided. The rest are looking for change.
It's incredible that Moore was Dally M coach-of-the-year in 2009 when he lifted the club to one win from the grand final. You can't go from being a great coach to a poor one in the space of only 18 months but time is running out for him at Belmore.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sp...oked-for-top-job/story-e6frexnr-1226086727571
 

Jesbass

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Typically brilliant journalism from Slothfield.

It's worth noting that Phil Gould uses texting as his main method of communication. He has a reputation as a text-aholic.

I'm not defending the article or the journalist, as I have no opinion on either, but I figured it deserved stating that texting Phil Gould is apparently the best way to get a response from him.
 

devoid

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I believe Gould has been quite busy in trying to text a new hair dye manufacturer, and hair transplant expert - thus far it's proving harder to arrange than snagging a contracted coach. Best wishes Gus, you legend and all round top guy - oh, and give my best to Coach Georgallis, too.
 

Izz

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Heh--i guess it'd also be worth nothing that Rothfield is quite public in his dislike of Gould.

My opinion on the article: a typical Rothfield attempt at sensationalism.

That being said, i'm still ticked off at Gould for disrupting our season the way he has.
 

devoid

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I know what you're saying, Izz - but tbh, most league journalism seems to based on sensationalism these days.
 

Jesbass

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Heh--i guess it'd also be worth nothing that Rothfield is quite public in his dislike of Gould.

My opinion on the article: a typical Rothfield attempt at sensationalism.

That being said, i'm still ticked off at Gould for disrupting our season the way he has.

Heh, all good.

Are you based in Australia, by any chance? Maybe I just live under a rock, but I tend to read the Kiwi media mroeso than the likes of the Daily Telegraph.
 

Izz

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I know what you're saying, Izz - but tbh, most league journalism seems to based on sensationalism these days.
True enough. Seems most of the league journos have personal agendas to push, too.

Heh, all good.

Are you based in Australia, by any chance? Maybe I just live under a rock, but I tend to read the Kiwi media mroeso than the likes of the Daily Telegraph.
No, live in Aucks. Just regularly browse the league sections of the aussie newspapers. There's often interesting stuff buried beneath the chest-beating and poo-slinging :)
 

Jesbass

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True enough. Seems most of the league journos have personal agendas to push, too.

No, live in Aucks. Just regularly browse the league sections of the aussie newspapers. There's often interesting stuff buried beneath the chest-beating and poo-slinging :)

I have now concluded that I live under a rock. :)
 

_addict

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I so don't believe that this is contributing to our poor form, nor that the end is nigh for 2011. Long-term future I think this will be good for both parties (not because I think Cleary's been a hopeless coach). Short-term I expect that it won't be weighing too much on the team in their preparations.
 
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