Dragons approach Tony Smith

[Minh]

Hear what your saying Minh, but i think right now we need a track record, established coach who will put the sword through the squad.

Daley may come good in the future, and appears to be loving SOO, but he is still very fresh and untested in the NRL.

Let some other team be the guinea pig. Not us.

I agree with you and Commisioner, it's the desperate voice inside of my head that's looking to spin a positive thought out of it.

 

[TruSaint]

I agree with you and Commisioner, it's the desperate voice inside of my head that's looking to spin a positive thought out of it.

It's not just you brother.
We are in a bad space. Period.

 

[rainman44]

That is so so sad that I reckon you are right & we will be screwed, but at least the old boys club can keep rolling along. Daley maybe also able to attract some more Raiders Rejects to boost the cutters.

On monday on triple mmm sterlo was speaking with mc gregor after the game and they asked him if he has anything to do with recruitment and he said he has and they will be meeting up to talk about it with the other guys, if this is the case it looks like daley is going to be here next year

 

[Minh]

It's not just you brother.
We are in a bad space. Period.

It's depressing, but as they say when the going gets tough the tough gets stronger.......I'm talking about supporters mind you.:lol:

 

[Morotti]

Apologies I haven't read the whole thread but I would be a fan of Kevin Walters perhaps. He is someone from outside the club. Had success as a player and has done a good understudy as a coach for a number of years. I think we need someone from outside the Dragons sphere.

What do we do with the support staff though? Most are new appointments for this year. Is Craig Young not the forwards coach? And look how that has turned out.

I think we need a player cleanout also. And at the very least let us make players accountable for poor games. It is drdiving me crazy picking almost the exact same team each week and getting thoroughly outclassed.

 

[Slippery Morris]

Daley was Browny's assistant wasn't he? Why bring him back and not Browny? He has been going well in ESL. Daley has only coached NSW since then.

I would not mind Daley because if he can get the boys to defend like the NSW team did in game 1 then that is a good move. Defence is about attitude and this year the NSW team attitude is spot on. Every player looks pumped and ready to rip in. He will also attract some good players.

Would he be able to coach both teams (NSW and Dragons). If so that would be good. If Saints were playing just say Manly in the split round prior to Origin games, I would pick 8 Manly players for Origin camp. Give Saints an easier game. Selfish I know but who cares. Saints should come first and NSW second.

 

[Mr Red]

On monday on triple mmm sterlo was speaking with mc gregor after the game and they asked him if he has anything to do with recruitment and he said he has and they will be meeting up to talk about it with the other guys, if this is the case it looks like daley is going to be here next year

McGregor already had a say in recruitment this season when he was assistant, so i am assuming ...

a) of course he still has a say as coach if he already did as assistant
b) he thinks if he doesnt get the gig on a full time basis, he will simply go back to being assistant in 2015 and therefore still have a say in recruitment

i fail to see how any of this means Daley will be there next year..

but in saying that i wouldnt rule Daley out.. the club is known for making dumb decisions the last 3 years, and hiring an untested coach at first grade level on the back of three rep games sounds like a sure fire plan for them...

 

[rainman44]

McGregor already had a say in recruitment this season when he was assistant, so i am assuming ...

a) of course he still has a say as coach if he already did as assistant
b) he thinks if he doesnt get the gig on a full time basis, he will simply go back to being assistant in 2015 and therefore still have a say in recruitment

i fail to see how any of this means Daley will be there next year..

but in saying that i wouldnt rule Daley out.. the club is known for making dumb decisions the last 3 years, and hiring an untested coach at first grade level on the back of three rep games sounds like a sure fire plan for them...

It's so Young Mary and Doust can still hang around. Boys club at its best. Gee I hope Daley stays right away. Need someone who will be given the green light to run the football side of things like Bennett did.

 

[Elias1983]

Welcome pal, be careful of what you post, they take no prisoners on this forum, I should know.

Fact!

 

[St Georgio]

Tony Smith-2002
Conversely, Huddersfield returned to Super League the following year not losing a single game. This was culminated in their Grand Final win against Leigh which secured the team's promotion.
He guided Leeds Rhinos to their 2004 Super League Grand Final victory against the Bradford Bulls, their first Championship in 32 years and went on to beat the Canterbury Bulldogs in the 2005 World Club Challenge at Elland Road.
On 13 October 2007, Leeds Rhinos beat Saint Helens 33-6 to become Super League champions, giving Tony Smith the perfect send off.
On 29 August 2009, he led Warrington to their first Challenge Cup final since 1990, and ultimately the team's first final victory since 1974, beating his former club Huddersfield Giants 25-16 and on 28 August 2010 he is leading Warrington to their second Challenge Cup against Smith's former club Leeds Rhinos.

Smith coached Warrington to their 2010 Challenge Cup Final victory over the Leeds Rhinos.[10] and there are groups on Facebook about smith [1]

Smith coached the Warrington Wolves to their first League Leader's Shield in the Super League era in 2011 and the Wolves became the first team in 6 years to break 1,000 points scored during one season (the last team to do so being Smith's Leeds Rhinos along with St. Helens and Bradford Bulls in the same season). In 2012 Warrington won the 2012 Challenge Cup Final after a 35-18 win against Leeds Rhinos.

 

[RedVDave]

Yeah, who cares about coaching record, ability to mativate players or use an appropriate game plan...we just need someone, anyone, who doest know Doust.

My vote goes towards Steven Kearney and Ivan Henjak as co-coaches.

There are plenty of good coaches going around who have no affilation to the club.

Jason Taylor, Neil Henry, Daniel Anderson and I stand by my statement Price, McGregor and Brown have all been out our club for over a decade the results speak for themselves. We need a hard bastard to come in and tell Doust to mind his own business, so the team can be coached properly. but if mediocrity is your cup tea then Smith is our man.

 

[RedVDave]

To be honest i don't feel as though it'll be jobs for the boys in regards to Tony Smith. It's been such a long time ago and it's not like he was a player of note in the past from a Dragons standpoint. I think both Smith brothers are at least intelligent coaches.

Minh since you have joined up to the forum I have really loved your passion and posts. However in this instance I can not disagree with you more. Brown was at our club for a decade and had a team to win the comp at least once but did not deliver since going ove to England he has proved a success and why? Doust is not there holding him back, getting on the drink with him and picking the team sheet.

McGrgregor left our club for 4 years in fact he was the first person Bennett got rid og because he knew he had overstayed his welcome. McGregor comes back and surprise, surpise we are back to dishing up the same old sh!t it's pitiful.

Smith was here when Doust was around so it'll be a classic case of "Welcome back buddy!" We need someone to come in like Bennett did and tell Doust to stay in the background otherwise the it's going to deja vu again and again.

 

[RedPenno]

maybe some credit should be give to Tony Smith regarding how he would conduct him self regarding Doust? Who's to say that he isn't like bennet now that that he has the runs on the board & maturity.

 

[BennyV]

There are plenty of good coaches going around who have no affilation to the club.

Jason Taylor, Neil Henry, Daniel Anderson and I stand by my statement Price, McGregor and Brown have all been out our club for over a decade the results speak for themselves. We need a hard bastard to come in and tell Doust to mind his own business, so the team can be coached properly. but if mediocrity is your cup tea then Smith is our man.

Yeah mediocrity, all those minor premierships, ESL titles, a WCC in there...so mediocre. If only he could reach the dizzying heights of Taylor, Henry and Anderson, with their trophy cabinet full of...ummm...hold on...nope, never mind...

As for boys club, to affiliate Smith with the dragons is nothing short of moronic. His brother was the one who coaches us in the early 90s, Tony played a handful of games but the guy has been out of the country for over 15 years, let alone away from the club. Has less to do with us than any other suggestions.

 

[Saint69]

Anderson won a Premiership with St Helens and a few Challenge Cups,he was obviously a good coach at a few clubs though being out of coaching for 3-4 years and going off his recent roles I think he has ruled out coaching.

 

[RedVDave]

Yeah mediocrity, all those minor premierships, ESL titles, a WCC in there...so mediocre. If only he could reach the dizzying heights of Taylor, Henry and Anderson, with their trophy cabinet full of...ummm...hold on...nope, never mind...

As for boys club, to affiliate Smith with the dragons is nothing short of moronic. His brother was the one who coaches us in the early 90s, Tony played a handful of games but the guy has been out of the country for over 15 years, let alone away from the club. Has less to do with us than any other suggestions.

I'm sorry, but when did I say Tony Smith could'nt coach? Oh that's right I did'nt! He is in the same category as Brown can coach but if he were to come here is just another drinking buddy for Doust as was Price and is McGregor and we can all see how those result have been going.

Just for the record as well Jason Taylor took Souths to the first semi finals apperance in nearly 2 decades with a very ordinary roster to.

Anderson, took Parra with arguably the worst playinh roster in living memory to a GF and only lost to a team by 7 points that was $2.5 Mill over the salary cap.

Neil Henry is let's face it the brains behind Queenslands current success.

But hey if you like our current state then Smith is the man! Oh yeah ESL is much easier to coach than NRL but let's overlook that fact for you though hey.

 

[BrissyRedV]

Henry has not been assistant to Mal and Qld for 4 years now so their current success cannot be attributed to him. He may have helped them turn it around nearly a decade ago, but since he has not done much. In 2010 the Cowboys and Henry were only saved from the wooden spoon by the cheating Storm. And last year, with roster that included Thurston, Bowen, Tamou, Scott, Tate etc., could only manage to scrape inot the 8 before being bundled out. Even the Titans are now starting to slide down the ladder after some very lucky escapes earlier in the season. Henry is not the answer to our coaching woes. If he was such a great coach a. Why is he now only an assistant? and b. Why did he get the sack in the first place?

 

[St Georgio]

I'm sorry, but when did I say Tony Smith could'nt coach? Oh that's right I did'nt! He is in the same category as Brown can coach but if he were to come here is just another drinking buddy for Doust as was Price and is McGregor and we can all see how those result have been going.

Just for the record as well Jason Taylor took Souths to the first semi finals apperance in nearly 2 decades with a very ordinary roster to.

Anderson, took Parra with arguably the worst playinh roster in living memory to a GF and only lost to a team by 7 points that was $2.5 Mill over the salary cap.

Neil Henry is let's face it the brains behind Queenslands current success.

But hey if you like our current state then Smith is the man! Oh yeah ESL is much easier to coach than NRL but let's overlook that fact for you though hey.

Quite obvious you don't like to see the Red V back in top 4!
Tony Smith is the Man.

 

[BennyV]

I'm sorry, but when did I say Tony Smith could'nt coach? Oh that's right I did'nt! He is in the same category as Brown can coach but if he were to come here is just another drinking buddy for Doust as was Price and is McGregor and we can all see how those result have been going.

Just for the record as well Jason Taylor took Souths to the first semi finals apperance in nearly 2 decades with a very ordinary roster to.

Anderson, took Parra with arguably the worst playinh roster in living memory to a GF and only lost to a team by 7 points that was $2.5 Mill over the salary cap.

Neil Henry is let's face it the brains behind Queenslands current success.

But hey if you like our current state then Smith is the man! Oh yeah ESL is much easier to coach than NRL but let's overlook that fact for you though hey.

You said Smith would equal mediocrity. Those are your words. More or less the same as saying he cant coach (which, to be fair, I didnt accuse you of saying)

Well done to Taylor for getting to the 8. Did you notice he was sacked by that club too?

Anderson made a grand final. He is also not obviously available, having had out-of-coaching jobs for the past 2 years.

Henry would be my preference if we had to get a.local coach. But lets be serious, he hasnt been part of the QLD team for 4 years, he coached a superstar team for years and made the finals twice, he also would have a spoon to his name if Storm werent caught cheating. And his current team are 10th and falling. Hes no prized catch.

Who says ESL is easier to coach? The game is slightly different, but the Top 4 ESL teams would easily knock off half (if not more) of the NRL comp. One of those teams is Smith's, another is Brownies. I'd definitely take the former of those over most of the proven failures who cant land a head coach role in the NRL.

 

[possm]

Have the Dragons really approached Smith?

Anything to support this claim?