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blacksafake

First Grade
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I was not at the game yesterday. Thank God for small mercies.

However, I was very vitriolic at to the performance of the team and a couple of players in particular on this and other forums.
Yes, frustration played a major part in that, watching made me wonder what has become of my once proud club. A club my father played for, a club where many heroes had donned the Big Red V, a club where football history was created with 11 straight premierships. It was not anger, just pure hear felt frustration of seeing my team turn up its toes at such a momentous occasion. Some of our past champions would be turning in their graves.

However, in saying that, I do reserve the right to chastise any player who I think isn't doing his job. Be that our highest paid player, or our lowest, our captain or a rookie. We have no problem in waxing lyrical of someone who plays well, but to criticize when they play bad seems taboo. Sports people in the public eye have to accept that fans with love them one day and loathe them the next. It's the nature of the beast.

One thing I will say is that verbal or physical abuse of players directly, be that at the game or on their private social media is akin to gutlessness, particularly with the knowledge they have to "take it on the chin" and not rebuke in any way.

I truly hope, I mean really truly hope, we bounce back next week and run in 50 against the Knights. I hope ALL our team who runs out on Saturday plays at 100% intensity, belying any talk of being a spent force this year.
Unfortunately, under McGregor, that task seems herculean in nature, even if he injects fresh talent into the squad.

Apologies to anyone who took offence at my ranting yesterday, but as I said built out of frustration and the thoughts of times gone by.

Dragon for life!
Well said Slayer :thumbsup:
 
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Im a Dragons/Saints supporter of over 55 yrs now, and I feel i have to say something about yesterday. Firstly I didnt realise I was standing right alongside Best Golden Boots-I know this from whats been said on this forum now-and I can vouch for everything he's said.There wasnt abuse from anyone around us,just pure distress at the effort put in.And thats what got yelled at the players and I certainly yelled at as many as I could except Gyspy-of course-and Friz and Tariq who really tried I thought. I was in the stand and watched as Morris scored in the corner, and in the lead up to this I watched Ben Hunt casually walking back-not an ounce of effort to do anything. I earn about about $80k a year and Ben Hunt earns about 10 to 15 times what I do.If I turned up to work like that I be sacked before I knew it.However it was most of the team who performed so badly(or didnt perform) for the whole match.It was appalling and they deserved to know it.So Muzby like it or not-they deserved every ounce of yelling they copped.Ive only been to one other match ever in my life where the Dragons were booed off at half and full time. But this time was different-its was Gypsys last match and a farewell for Lance.To not even try at this match was unforgiveable and not like the Dragons I've followed for over 55 yrs now.I have to work hard for my wage and to watch a pack of bludgers get paid for that to me was not something I was going to be silent about.The season pass to Kogarah isnt cheap and its not like I'm rolling in cash. If thats the best Mary can muster than maybe my cash would be better spent taking my whole family out for dinner for about the same cost as 2 tickets in the grandstand, and just watch it on TV. But I'm a Dragons life long supporter and I go to as many games as I can and we all want and deserve better than this.There had better be some massive changes this week in players on field and effort. I still remember seeing the tail end of 11 in a row. Thats what the Dragons are-not what I saw yesterday
 

RedVDave

First Grade
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We barely scraped into the finals and will be canon fodder for whoever we play and swiftly eliminated yay let's rejoice.

Dufty if you can't handle being booed and heckled your in the wrong profession.
 

muzby

Village Idiot
Staff member
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Im a Dragons/Saints supporter of over 55 yrs now, and I feel i have to say something about yesterday. Firstly I didnt realise I was standing right alongside Best Golden Boots-I know this from whats been said on this forum now-and I can vouch for everything he's said.There wasnt abuse from anyone around us,just pure distress at the effort put in.And thats what got yelled at the players and I certainly yelled at as many as I could except Gyspy-of course-and Friz and Tariq who really tried I thought. I was in the stand and watched as Morris scored in the corner, and in the lead up to this I watched Ben Hunt casually walking back-not an ounce of effort to do anything. I earn about about $80k a year and Ben Hunt earns about 10 to 15 times what I do.If I turned up to work like that I be sacked before I knew it.However it was most of the team who performed so badly(or didnt perform) for the whole match.It was appalling and they deserved to know it.So Muzby like it or not-they deserved every ounce of yelling they copped.Ive only been to one other match ever in my life where the Dragons were booed off at half and full time. But this time was different-its was Gypsys last match and a farewell for Lance.To not even try at this match was unforgiveable and not like the Dragons I've followed for over 55 yrs now.I have to work hard for my wage and to watch a pack of bludgers get paid for that to me was not something I was going to be silent about.The season pass to Kogarah isnt cheap and its not like I'm rolling in cash. If thats the best Mary can muster than maybe my cash would be better spent taking my whole family out for dinner for about the same cost as 2 tickets in the grandstand, and just watch it on TV. But I'm a Dragons life long supporter and I go to as many games as I can and we all want and deserve better than this.There had better be some massive changes this week in players on field and effort. I still remember seeing the tail end of 11 in a row. Thats what the Dragons are-not what I saw yesterday
That's great.

So again I'll ask the question - if the discussion was so polite and non-abusive, why did a media trained professional footballer tell a fan to f**k off?


We've all been to disappointing games, but the measure of the person watching it is how they carry on after a poor performance.

As I mentioned earlier, I've become more embarrassed by the carry-on of the fans yesterday than the performance of the team itself. And considering how bad we were on the field, that's saying something.

Yes, we're all passionate fans, and that's what is awesome about supporting this club. But you can be passionate without carrying on like a fool. And unfortunately the carry on of the fans has put a bad spotlight on the club, not one that would force change.
 
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Muzby-how many games have you been to where theyve been booed off twice-half time and full time.Yesterday was my second.I hope to never see another. Yesterday wasnt a disappointing game-it was a disgrace.And as I said before- its not the Dragons i know and love.If you pull on that jersey then you know the history and you try for 80 mins. I dont mind when we lose ( i hate it but i accept it) if we at least had a go but were beaten by a better team on the day-but that effort was zero from word go-they werent even interested.Do that in front of me and expect a gob full. I didnt swear -I just let them know my feelings-Maybe Graham should have spoken to the team and told them to f.. off at half time but dont tarnish all the fans who yelled at them because one player swore back.As I said, I was right there and heard as much said as anyone else
 

nontime111

Juniors
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If I was coach after that game literally the only players to ever pull on a First grade red V again would be Simms, Perriera, Mann, Frizz, Simms, Graham, Luch, Mcinnis, JDB and Host the rest Id get rid of asap never to play again, and then Id sack myself immediately
 

dannyt

Coach
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If I was coach after that game literally the only players to ever pull on a First grade red V again would be Simms, Perriera, Mann, Frizz, Simms, Graham, Luch, Mcinnis, JDB and Host the rest Id get rid of asap never to play again, and then Id sack myself immediately
Perhaps you, being mary, should've sacked yourself 2 months ago and the players you decided to sack now wouldn't need sacking.
 

st penguin

Juniors
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Man you simply have no clue do you.
"You can go to Nth Queensland now Nene" and "please go back to Canturbury" to Lafai is somehow racist?
Get to a game, watch with 12000 other Dragons supporters as they get flogged 38-0, and then boo loudly with 12000 other Dragons supporters as they leave the feild.
Then come back and talk to me.......or better yet don't, I don't like to play with people with untreated mental conditions.

To be fair, your original statement was....

“there was a lot of comments about "going back to" where ever a particular player came from”

That sounds pretty racist!

This is what happens when people are quoted out of context.

That’s why I’m not paying attention to a Twitter quote of what Dufty may have said.
 

ouryears

Bench
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That's great.

So again I'll ask the question - if the discussion was so polite and non-abusive, why did a media trained professional footballer tell a fan to f**k off?


We've all been to disappointing games, but the measure of the person watching it is how they carry on after a poor performance.

As I mentioned earlier, I've become more embarrassed by the carry-on of the fans yesterday than the performance of the team itself. And considering how bad we were on the field, that's saying something.

Yes, we're all passionate fans, and that's what is awesome about supporting this club. But you can be passionate without carrying on like a fool. And unfortunately the carry on of the fans has put a bad spotlight on the club, not one that would force change.
Graham telling fans to F off, you saying why would he.
Why don’t you go ask him.
Media trained professional my arse.
He swears on the field many many times a game, it’s emotion, frustration and upbringing.
Stop asking others why would he.

Go ask graham.
The jury is not out, fans have the perfect right to be furious.
Mary ain’t gonna put the pressure on, so WE WILL.
 

ouryears

Bench
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PC bullshit they can ALL f*^&! off theyre NOT a Dragons players armpit hair
So true nontime.
The pc by some on here is abhorrent.
Thankfully they are in a minority, 15% or less.

Probably they are the people who think there should be no scores kept in junior football, that every one gets player of the match, school exams should be banned, that we should build Sydney up to 15 million people so every one has a square inch of space, and that football players are God’s.

As you say, they can all F off.
 

ragzouken

Juniors
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The dribble in this thread makes for some painful reading

Muzby attempting to bring a calm to the place and talk with a bit of sense, 4 or 5 seniors thinking they should sack the lot, defending there right to hurl abuse at players and families because they pay 40 bucks for a game :face_palm_tone1:♂️.

I couldn’t imagine a bigger pharqwit then one willing to hand around after the team has been smashed purely to lay into players, imagine what your wives and kids must think of you in that moment..
 

Crush

Coach
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The dribble in this thread makes for some painful reading

Muzby attempting to bring a calm to the place and talk with a bit of sense, 4 or 5 seniors thinking they should sack the lot, defending there right to hurl abuse at players and families because they pay 40 bucks for a game :face_palm_tone1:♂️.

I couldn’t imagine a bigger pharqwit then one willing to hand around after the team has been smashed purely to lay into players, imagine what your wives and kids must think of you in that moment..
Nailed it.
 

jeffdragon

Bench
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The dribble in this thread makes for some painful reading

Muzby attempting to bring a calm to the place and talk with a bit of sense, 4 or 5 seniors thinking they should sack the lot, defending there right to hurl abuse at players and families because they pay 40 bucks for a game :face_palm_tone1:♂️.

I couldn’t imagine a bigger pharqwit then one willing to hand around after the team has been smashed purely to lay into players, imagine what your wives and kids must think of you in that moment..

I did hang around as many did.
But was going to give em a gobfull but didnt.
Wanted to see the reaction.
There is passionate fans who can say what they like as long as it doesnt get out of hand. I will be there come semi finals if they play in sydney
 

FlameThrower

Bench
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They deserved it and if this does not send a message, then nothing will. Sunday’s outburst was a result of years of end of season fades, poor coaching, fringe first graders, lack of pride and being constantly let down by the Club and the Administration. The final straw was the train wreck of a promising season, with everything on the line > a top 4 place, Nighty last game, Thompson tribute and they dish up worst ever result at Kogarah!
The Club is in disarray and the bad PR may be the only thing that can bring change. Coach / players and the Club have let this simmer with the Fans being ignored until it exploded on Sunday .
 

jeffdragon

Bench
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There is an article on nrl .com from Brad walter-his aritcle is a bit over the top. As i was there the expletives werent free flowing.
As the cops were there.
 

dragons girl

Juniors
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Dufty can be a very good player but at the moment he is out of form and down on confidence, Any other coach would give him a spell in ISP to recover but sadly not our coach.
Players should gave been rested during origin and others given a go.But super coach knows best.Same crap different year when will the management of this club see it Mary has had long enough the board needs to act lets see if they are capable
 
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