Early tip: Sandow won't see out his contract

[IFR33K]

I'm not sure who's the bigger troll, ME or poo poo.

I do know who the more enjoyable one is though.

 

[Gary Gutful]

The difference between Souths with Reynolds and Souths with Sandow is simply that Reynolds is a far smarter footballer, he constantly makes the right decisions in attack, and executes those decisions consistently well, with Sandow they had none of this, yet had a fairly decent squad, that to a point could make up for his shortcomings, and capitalise on his occasional individual brilliance.

I think this is a fair point. In addition to his defence, my other main issue is Sandow's last play options. When we are pinned down in our own area his long kicking game is normally good.

However, if we are in an attacking position we just don't threaten enough and invariably don't execute anything on the last play when we need to score or get a repeat set.

Maybe Sandow doesnt get to practice those moments enough in a game or maybe someone like Reynolds is just better at it.

I believe players like Kingston and Norman could help take a bit of pressure of Sandow in these situations next year.

 

[Gary Gutful]

Just a typical thing you would say. Paul Langmack has also been involved in coaching. Maybe we should ask him. You are obviously intimating that Tallis must know more than Sterlo (I doubt it but anyway especially when the topic is about halfbacks) even though it is obvious that Tallis sincerely asks Sterling what about when forwards are getting dominated and Sterling states words to the effect of you still have to get involved et al. Which Sandow does not.

What exactly does "get more involved" mean to you? If he is on the back foot in attack and doesn't have room and time to make plays, do you think Sandow should be making hit-ups for the team?

That's the only way that I can think he can get "more involved" in those moments. Maybe I am missing something but do you think there are other things he can do when his team is on the back foot?

 

[Avenger]

What exactly does "get more involved" mean to you? If he is on the back foot in attack and doesn't have room and time to make plays, do you think Sandow should be making hit-ups for the team?

That's the only way that I can think he can get "more involved" in those moments. Maybe I am missing something but do you think there are other things he can do when his team is on the back foot?

Yes he can start by asking for the ball. Barking orders at his forwards and giving the ball when they are not standing flat footed. When close to the line he can try and get a repeat set with a grubber not that stupid half bomb close to the line that our wingers haven't got to since the last decade. He needs to build pressure because at times we are holding them for 20 min or so. Sandow is an impatient and dumb footballer who reads the game poorly.

 

[Avenger]

Sandow is a virus to our team and everyone knows it.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/spor...ims-chris-sandow/story-fni3ga7r-1226677385666

 

[Gary Gutful]

Yes he can start by asking for the ball. Barking orders at his forwards and giving the ball when they are not standing flat footed.

And what happens when they are standing flat footed and Sandow has to take a hit up himself? Does he need to do this few times and then start barking more orders at the forwards?

Take the last tackle option stuff out of the discussion because I agree that he is poor at this. However, the reality is that for large portions of games we aren't even in a position to score - we are getting dominated!

In those instances, can Sandow do anything other than get in ask for the ball and tell the forwards to do their job (i.e "bark orders")? If not, then that just sounds like another way of saying that our forwards aren't doing the job but blaming the wrong guy for it!

 

[Avenger]

How did Sterling shine despite our forwards being dominated from 1987 until his eventual retirement ?

 

[Gary Gutful]

How did Sterling shine despite our forwards being dominated from 1987 until his eventual retirement ?

I don't know mate. What did he do?

Please tell me because I genuinely don't know what he means by saying that Sandow should "get more involved" when your pack is being dominated.

What does "get more involved" mean other than screaming at your forwards to try harder?

 

[The Phelan Folly]

Sandow is a virus to our team and everyone knows it.

http://m.dailytelegraph.com.au/spor...ims-chris-sandow/story-fni3ga7r-1226677385666

haha - quoting the Smelly-Graph to make a point is scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit?

 

[Avenger]

I don't know mate. What did he do?

Please tell me because I genuinely don't know what he means by saying that Sandow should "get more involved" when your pack is being dominated.

What does "get more involved" mean other than screaming at your forwards to try harder?

It's all about the point we agree on Gaz and that's when we are close to the try line. We need to build pressure by getting repeat sets. Sandow is poor at that. If we did the opposition forwards will tire and give our boys a chance to dominate. Besides scoring a try does wonders for your mental confidence.

 

[Gary Gutful]

It's all a out the point we agree on Gaz and that's when we are close to the try line. We need to build pressure by getting repeat sets. Sandow is poor at that. If we did the opposition forwards will tire and give our boys a chance to dominate. Besides scoring a try does wonders for your mental confidence.

By that description though the criticism of Sandow isn't that he "doesn't get involved" it is more that he lacks finesse when he does get involved in last tackle plays. Sterlo shouldn't use buzzwords like "he needs to be more involved" if he or no-one else can actually explain what they mean. What's Sterlo going to say next, "He needs to get the 2 points"?

I look at it more the other way. The real reason we are not competitive is that we get totally dominated in the ruck. That is our biggest problem and where we should be focusing our efforts. Lets fix that first and stop giving away stupid penalties and then see how much of a problem we have in getting field position and finishing off sets!

 

[IFR33K]

It's all a out the point we agree on Gaz and that's when we are close to the try line. We need to build pressure by getting repeat sets. Sandow is poor at that. If we did the opposition forwards will tire and give our boys a chance to dominate. Besides scoring a try does wonders for your mental confidence.

Stop talking sense.

 

[emjaycee]

Chris Sandow
Sometimes splitting the opposition defence.
Always splitting the LU forum.

 

[Avenger]

haha - quoting the Smelly-Graph to make a point is scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit?

No, they didn't make up the stats did they?

 

[Gary Gutful]

Stop talking sense.

If you get dominated in the ruck then you will lose field position and possession. That makes it very hard to get to the other end of the field because your team is tired. It also puts a lot of pressure on the team to make the most of the very few opportunities that you do get in the attacking zone.

If a team dominates the ruck then they dominate field position and have more time with the ball. This means that they have more opportunities to score which means they are more likely to win.

Teams that dominate the ruck win football matches.

Teams with the better halfback often lose matches.

If we fix our efforts in the ruck we will win more matches than we will by dicking around with our halves.

 

[Avenger]

The ruck is a problem too, no doubt.

 

[Gary Gutful]

The ruck is a problem too, no doubt.

It is our biggest problem don't you think?

 

[Maroubra Eel]

I think the forwards get disheartened. They do all the hard work to get us in good field position, only for Sandow to stuff it up over and over again.

 

[emjaycee]

I said a couple of years ago our biggest problem is we have no one in motion off the ball.
This remains a problem and no half back can look like a star and organise anything without players in motion around him.

 

[I bleed blue & gold]

Us being dominated in the ruck time and time again is our main problem imo. If we can't improve on that, we will keep seeing the same shit.