T.S Quint
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well u could interpret it either way tbh .... was everyone good? or everyone bad?
We were good....the Bulldogs were bad.
That's all that matters to me.
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well u could interpret it either way tbh .... was everyone good? or everyone bad?
I don't know if all of Smiths teams llacked leaders. Our team in the late 90's had some good leaders in it, Pay, Smith, Dymock and McCracken.
well u could interpret it either way tbh .... was everyone good? or everyone bad?
I can't see us being a title contender with sandow. I just don't think he has organizing skills.
Kelly has that covered. He even played on the right hand side this year (the side the 'halfback' usually plays on).
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There were 16 points separating first and last place - a record if I remember correctly.
Top six separated by only 6 points.
This is the closest comp in the history of the NRL.
How exactly was it a weak comp?
There's a quick two-click solution to that ;-).My quote, was the fourth post in this thread.
Your response, the sixth post, was directed at me.
So which one is it, does a half require organization skills.
I believe if you read your posts as much as we do, you'd probably wouldn't post as much.
Sorry for coming across as rude, but please STFU.
My quote, was the fourth post in this thread.
Your response, the sixth post, was directed at me.
So which one is it, does a half require organization skills.
I believe if you read your posts as much as we do, you'd probably wouldn't post as much.
Sorry for coming across as rude, but please STFU.
There's a quick two-click solution to that ;-).
And fast forward to 2013 and the top 5 sides are now the bottom 5 teams.
To be fair to Pou, he never said they were bad players at all. He merely said they hadn't won a premiership since Johns started coaching them. But really he was simply using a 'ruse' to cover his lack of argument on the topic.
People are arguing that organsing is a halfbacks job.
Pou says it isn't.
Johns says Parra needs an organiser
Pou says Johns has no idea about the modern game.
Someone says 'but Johns coaches in the modern game'.
The next step in the logic is to prove whether or not Johns teaches the players to 'organise' and then to argue as to whether or not that is neccessary.
But Pou only pretended to do that by pointing out that Johns coaching stint at Manly started after they won the premiership, and since they haven't won a premiership since, his deduction is that the team has gone backwards.
Now he's effectively sidelined the conversation over whether or not a halfback organises, and made it all about whether or not Manly are going backwards. He can argue down that tangent for days, while still maintaining his (unproven) statement that there is no organising required in the modern game.
Don't feel bad, it's the method he uses to argue any particular point, makes an unproven statement, then argues about tangents to keep real discussion sidelined!
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If you wanted to prove organising is important, why not just submit as "proof" Johns' statement that we need an organiser? There's a current 'coach' who says it is part of the game.
As further proof, you could submit the lack of a statement by any coach that 'organising halves' are not part of the game anymore.
In fact, you could even call players to the witness stand, and quote guys like Andrew Ryan, talking just a couple of years ago about Ben Barba
There's really no need to argue in favour of the fact that part of a halves job is to organise the team, it's the evidence against that fact which needs to presented if Pou wants to make his point.
i'd very much like to see him back at the club now in some kind of football operations manager role working with Stuart building the foundations of the club back to what they were when he left.I'd take Smithy back in an instance if Stuart walks/sacked in 2014.
Well I know that they used to, but with everything I read and hear and see on the field I'm not convinced it's such an important part of the game anymore.
Decision making is important for spine players, but I count that as something very different from the 'organising' we refer to when we discuss the old school halfbacks. Those guys would make up their own gameplans in the middle of a match, and because teams weren't as well drilled there was no reason not to. They weren't going to ruin everything the team had rehearsed at training that week.
Nowadays nearly every tackle in a set is scripted, and everyone is on the same page and knows what to do. They don't need some merkin to tell them.
But there are still occasions when breaking from the script is worth the risk, and certain players (generally in the spine) have the authority to 'play what they see'. But this is exactly what players like Chris Sandow are good at. And that is obviously not 'organising' because apparently Sandow is not an organiser.
Actually I post for my own amusement, so I do read my posts. Multiple times.
They are invariably awesome, imo.
Hey! Don't you ever be sorry for who you are.
You cannot sit there and tell me that the attack executed on the field by Parra for the majority of this season, nor what they delivered on the field for most of last season, is rehearsed. The coach himself says every second week just about that what they do at training is not what is being displayed on the field. So clearly there is something wrong.
You cannot sit there and tell me that the attack executed on the field by Parra for the majority of this season, nor what they delivered on the field for most of last season, is rehearsed. The coach himself says every second week just about that what they do at training is not what is being displayed on the field. So clearly there is something wrong.
and Denis in his wisdom saw that the best thing to do was give the job to Hagan who just finished with the spoon and not give Smith an extension.
IDIOT
One of the things I was privy to during those years was that the board of the club we very very annoyed at
1) Denis's choice.
2) Denis didn't consult the board about the choice before he made it.
3) As a result Denis was not allowed to hire the next coach without board approval.
That resulted in Anderson.
Then the board got ousted was replaced by 3P, was pressured by Pirtek and Duncan which led to the unnecessary sacking of Anderson. Enter SK an untried rookie who once worked with Bennett.
Who failed to improve the side after 2 years, so he was replaced with a Coach not well known for building sides, but known for taking built sides that extra mile.
Maybe we should have gotten Sticky in 2005/6
But because of the failing the coach under the 3P board, the 3P board was ousted and has been replaced by the current board with a 4-3 majority.