Eels Attack Analysis

[lucablight]

We're certainly a one man kicking game.

It appears you are saying we lack the elite star power of other teams but losing one fringe origin player is such a devastating blow to us we cannot even be competitive against an elite team missing 60% of their salary cap.

 

[Suitman]

It appears you are saying we lack the elite star power of other teams but losing one fringe origin player is such a devastating blow to us we cannot even be competitive against an elite team missing 60% of their salary cap.

Seriously mate. Don't bother.

 

[lucablight]

Seriously mate. Don't bother.

I think Pou seems like an intelligent person but he is misguided in a lot of his views. I’m curious to see whether he is capable of changing his mind. I agree that to a lot of the fans on here who are disgruntled at how the team is going that his refusal to recognise faults at how the team is being run would be very frustrating. Maybe even disingenuous at times.

 

[Suitman]

I’m curious to see whether he is capable of changing his mind.

Lol.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

It appears you are saying we lack the elite star power of other teams but losing one fringe origin player is such a devastating blow to us we cannot even be competitive against an elite team missing 60% of their salary cap.

Well you would've seen our performance against them earlier in the year.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think Pou seems like an intelligent person but he is misguided in a lot of his views. I’m curious to see whether he is capable of changing his mind. I agree that to a lot of the fans on here who are disgruntled at how the team is going that his refusal to recognise faults at how the team is being run would be very frustrating. Maybe even disingenuous at times.

We have definitely had bad games this year, and the number of bad games is reflective of the coach. The recent Roosters game was obviously a bad game. The Raiders loss wasn't, imo. I thought we played worse when we beat the Tigers earlier in the year.

So my tally for poor performances this year is five. How many poor performances have better coaches overseen this year? And yes I concede there are better coaches than ours. I never said otherwise. Des Hasler is one of them and his team was atrocious against the gun sides without Trbojevic. Bennett is another great coach and his team conceded 50 points twice already. Every coach sees his team underperform sometimes. How often tells me a lot about how good he is.

 

[Delboy]

Looking at the Storms execution of attacking plays, are their players that much better or maybe they are better coached.

Basically outside of Munster, they have been coached into a cohesive, fast moving, well drilled unit. Would like to be half as good in speed of play both sides of the ball , and backline moves.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I think we can all agree Bellamy is a better coach than Arthur's. I reckon he would've cost a bit. Nobody's been able to pry him away from Melbourne. He must love the weather down there.

 

[Gazzamatta]

Looking at the Storms execution of attacking plays, are their players that much better or maybe they are better coached.

Basically outside of Munster, they have been coached into a cohesive, fast moving, well drilled unit. Would like to be half as good in speed of play both sides of the ball , and backline moves.

I have no doubt our roster is good enough. Regardless there appears little opportunity to add known quality unless we find others like Ice. So where does that leave us.
Same players, same coaches.
In anyones eyes thats probably concerning unless of cause the multitude are happy to hang around the top six.

 

[Avenger]

Looking at the Storms execution of attacking plays, are their players that much better or maybe they are better coached.

Basically outside of Munster, they have been coached into a cohesive, fast moving, well drilled unit. Would like to be half as good in speed of play both sides of the ball , and backline moves.

We have lazy players, slow play the balls, terrible execution and a soft underbelly. This would not be tolerated at the Storm.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

I have no doubt our roster is good enough. Regardless there appears little opportunity to add known quality unless we find others like Ice. So where does that leave us.
Same players, same coaches.
In anyones eyes thats probably concerning unless of cause the multitude are happy to hang around the top six.

Top six is pretty good. It's about building the culture and attractiveness of the club. We are about to make the finals for the third consecutive year. The last time that happened was 14 years ago.

 

[Delboy]

Top six is pretty good. It's about building the culture and attractiveness of the club. We are about to make the finals for the third consecutive year. The last time that happened was 14 years ago.

Pou, we all agree with that statement, this is more about execution and how our coaching doesn’t seem to measure up.

How would the Storm backline look under the tutelage of Murphy and I guess BA, not the same!!

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pou, we all agree with that statement, this is more about execution and how our coaching doesn’t seem to measure up.

How would the Storm backline look under the tutelage of Murphy and I guess BA, not the same!!

How do you reckon our backline would look under Bellamy? I reckon not as good as Melbourne's.

 

[Gazzamatta]

How do you reckon our backline would look under Bellamy? I reckon not as good as Melbourne's.

Pappy. Reserve grade Tigpies (at best)
JAC. Reserve grade Tigpies
Smith. Reserve grade Dogs
Olam. PNG Qld Cup
Gennings. Reserve grade Eels
Munster. Superstar
Hughes. 3rd string failed fullback.
So the coach hasnt contributed? Oh Poo! Wakey, wakey hand off snakey.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

Pappy. Reserve grade Tigpies (at best)
JAC. Reserve grade Tigpies
Smith. Reserve grade Dogs
Olam. PNG Qld Cup
Gennings. Reserve grade Eels
Munster. Superstar
Hughes. 3rd string failed fullback.
So the coach hasnt contributed? Oh Poo! Wakey, wakey hand off snakey.

They have great talent identification. All those players were young enough to improve plenty. What if some club had signed Mahoney for 2021. He is twice the player he was last year. Everyone would be saying Arthur's couldn't get the best out of him. It's the same with Papali'i. Nothing to do with the coach, it's whoever does our recruiting.

I remember Papenhuyzen had huge wraps in the under 20s. The Storm signed him after a season ending injury.

Addo-Carr scored six tries in nine games as a 21 year old. Huge indicator of potential.

Reimis Smith scored 12 tries for a very shit team in the year he turned 22. Another huge indicator of potential.

I don't remember Olam pre-Storm. I wasn't even aware of him, so just more good recruitment by Melbourne.

I always rated George Jennings when others didn't. His weaknesses are best suited to a strong team who can minimise his exposure to pressure, but don't forget he was exposed badly by Sivo early this year.

Hughes has improved every year and good on him. He will be 27 in a couple of months so it's been a long journey.

This all shows that you can find value in high potential youth, but also plenty of them will be in such high demand that there is no value at all in signing them. For every Papali'i there's a Utoikamanu. But Melbourne get it right more often than not. It's part of their success. I'm tipping Xavier Coates to be the best winger in the game for the next ten years at Melbourne. Not only is their coaching setup great but it would be f**king easy playing behind that pack.

 

[Pazza]

By a side that has won just 2 games, trust Pou to blow a triple over that though.

A simple over lap, something we should be doing every week.......

 

[Poupou Escobar]

A simple over lap, something we should be doing every week.......

Joey Grima said we prefer to keep going up the middle after a quick play-the-ball. Won't see too many overlaps if that's our plan.

 

[yy_cheng]

I think Pou seems like an intelligent person but he is misguided in a lot of his views. I’m curious to see whether he is capable of changing his mind. I agree that to a lot of the fans on here who are disgruntled at how the team is going that his refusal to recognise faults at how the team is being run would be very frustrating. Maybe even disingenuous at times.

Pou doesn't have a view. He is just presenting the other side. Defense lawyer.

 

[Poupou Escobar]

My view is always that shit is complicated. There are usually arguments for and against everything. But I don't post anything I don't believe. Or if I do it's sarcasm.

 

[Chipmunk]

Why? We're a controlling, grinding team, not a sideline to sideline team.

In a recent TCT podcast Joey Grima mentioned we prefer to keep the ball in the middle after a quick play-the-ball. That's why our edges don't look like Melbourne's. We use the edges for hit ups (Matterson and Papali'i). It's a deliberate ploy, and unlike you I think we would win fewer games if we played any other way.

This strategy seems like it would work more often than not against weaker opponents, which probably shows why we're a consistent Top 4-6 side of four of the last five seasons.

However, there is no evidence with this strategy that you will consistently beat the teams who are around your same level, as your predictability can be easily countered by teams that are at your level , or those weaker teams who choose to have a crack for 80 minutes.

As a result, we're unlikely to miss the Top 6 anytime soon, however, we're unlikely to beat those teams who are of similar quality, when it matters, anytime in the near future. You're strategy in Finals matches can't just be praying and hoping for the luck to go your way.