Eels in the media

[Gazzamatta]

That’s right which sounds like this forum.

10 mins in. A lot more realistic than other Eels Poddys Ive listened too. Lots to go yet though.
I giggled at the comment,
"Do these guys actually train or do they just do instagram poses with their shirts off?"

 

[84 Baby]

So one dude has final say?? What RL knowledge does he have to make a decision like that?? Sure he works with and helps the board but surely he answers to them??

And I have no experience at all about boards which is why I asked the question.

Get off “final say”. Companies aren’t a dictatorship, especially not our club.
Yes he’ll be the one to make the decision but no decent CEO is going to do so without due diligence.

He answers to the board, but in a good system, he doesn’t answer to decisions, he answers to processes that led to those decisions.

This would also feed risk averse culture. But also getting rid of Sarantinos isn’t going to change that (or it could but the new CEO would then wear some of the risk too). Could change the board to be more accepting of risk, but obviously this comes with greater risk too.

I also think we should approach Bernie Gurr if he would accept a position on board. I think his experience with how clubs can operate within risk parameters would be very handy

 

[King-Gutho94]

10 mins in. A lot more realistic than other Eels Poddys Ive listened too. Lots to go yet though.
I giggled at the comment,
"Do these guys actually train or do they just do instagram poses with their shirts off?"

Sounds like a shot at Princess Matto.

 

[yy_cheng]

10 mins in. A lot more realistic than other Eels Poddys Ive listened too. Lots to go yet though.
I giggled at the comment,
"Do these guys actually train or do they just do instagram poses with their shirts off?"

this is good.. they tell it like they see it.... not the slow turning titanic TCT.
havent finished but

a) Paycheck
- in 2022 alot of players were chasing a contract so tried harder
- now they are comfy

b) they dont want sivo in the team

c) Mitch not there to tell players off, Guth too busy doing other things so the team slacks off. Can mitch be a trainer when he's injured

d) we are fans of the club so we are passionate.. the ppl at the top are not... they are just working a job

e) Last year, sanders was asked to stay and was told was 1st option when Moses got injured.

 

[Sensei Cobra]

B

he's just saying what we already know, nothing new here

play a substitute half and let Dylbro play his own game

But it’s staggering call … bombshell even
Must be important

 

[emjaycee]

Yep basically the CEO is doing day to day work then goes to the board every month and says look at these numbers how great am I!

A CEO would also take advice and guidance from the Board, especially in relation to the overall strategy of the business and how some specifics might be implemented.

In the context of Parra Eels for example, the Board MAY have been guiding the CEO regarding steering away from TPAs for a few years in order to let the dramas of 2016 settle down, however they MAY have recently decided that introducing possible TPA providers to players (managers) within the rules of the NRL is now a practice we are okay with. In fact a Board member or two, MAY have even approached some previous TPA providers to determine how they structured the TPAs to pass NRL rules.

Another example is that they MAY have determined that although the Head Coach can request the players he wants, the financially responsible thing to do is have a recruitment and retention committee that signs off on new signings to ensure we don't get into Salary Cap trouble again. They MAY have then instructed the CEO to put that structure in place and he would be responsible for doing so.

Of course, I don't remember any of my mates getting a members email that says any of the above is actually true, so it is just my assumptions.

 

[JokerEel]

A CEO would also take advice and guidance from the Board, especially in relation to the overall strategy of the business and how some specifics might be implemented.

In the context of Parra Eels for example, the Board MAY have been guiding the CEO regarding steering away from TPAs for a few years in order to let the dramas of 2016 settle down, however they MAY have recently decided that introducing possible TPA providers to players (managers) within the rules of the NRL is now a practice we are okay with. In fact a Board member or two, MAY have even approached some previous TPA providers to determine how they structured the TPAs to pass NRL rules.

Another example is that they MAY have determined that although the Head Coach can request the players he wants, the financially responsible thing to do is have a recruitment and retention committee that signs off on new signings to ensure we don't get into Salary Cap trouble again. They MAY have then instructed the CEO to put that structure in place and he would be responsible for doing so.

Of course, I don't remember any of my mates getting a members email that says any of the above is actually true, so it is just my assumptions.

My version sounds more plausible for the Eels!

 

[emjaycee]

My version sounds more plausible for the Eels!

Your version sounds more plausible for any Eels supporters who don't want to understand that a $20M+ business isn't run on the whims of any single individual and that lack of stringent governance and a level of control and oversight from the previous 2 Boards (Sharp's and Spagnolo's) are what caused 2016.

 

[JokerEel]

Your version sounds more plausible for any Eels supporters who don't want to understand that a $20M+ business isn't run on the whims of any single individual and that lack of stringent governance and a level of control and oversight from the previous 2 Boards (Sharp's and Spagnolo's) are what caused 2016.

You go on a bit....

I never said The CEO never discussed how to run the business any better from the board ffs.

Also you don't think the board wasn't working with those 2 clown CEOs when we f**ked up???

 

[emjaycee]

You go on a bit....

I never said The CEO never discussed how to run the business any better from the board ffs.

Also you don't think the board wasn't working with those 2 clown CEOs when we f**ked up???

I wasn't referring to you specifically mate.

And those "2 clowns" were the Chairmen of the Board. The CEOs were Osborne, Bentley and then Seward. That was the problem and why we now have a more professional Board in place.

 

[84 Baby]

this is good.. they tell it like they see it.... not the slow turning titanic TCT.
havent finished but

a) Paycheck
- in 2022 alot of players were chasing a contract so tried harder
- now they are comfy

b) they dont want sivo in the team

c) Mitch not there to tell players off, Guth too busy doing other things so the team slacks off. Can mitch be a trainer when he's injured

d) we are fans of the club so we are passionate.. the ppl at the top are not... they are just working a job

e) Last year, sanders was asked to stay and was told was 1st option when Moses got injured.

They ok but I suspect they spout a lot of opinion as fact but also they’re not an echo chamber, even within themselves, which is good

 

[JokerEel]

I wasn't referring to you specifically mate.

And those "2 clowns" were the Chairmen of the Board. The CEOs were Osborne, Bentley and then Seward. That was the problem and why we now have a more professional Board in place.

All good apologies.

Let's hope they are working on the TPAs

I also think some other people making calls on team selection is BS. If it were true BA should be leaking it.

 

[hineyrulz]

A board that doesn't do all it can to win a comp..........

 

[emjaycee]

All good apologies.

Let's hope they are working on the TPAs

I also think some other people making calls on team selection is BS. If it were true BA should be leaking it.

Yeah, no one is making calls on week to week team selection apart from BA, his coaching staff and probably Gutho & Junior if it is in regards to a debutant. I only say that last bit because BA made it clear that he wasn't going to pick Jake to debut, but the 'senior players' and other coaching staff convinced him to.

 

[the phantom menace]

I wasn't referring to you specifically mate.

And those "2 clowns" were the Chairmen of the Board. The CEOs were Osborne, Bentley and then Seward. That was the problem and why we now have a more professional Board in place.

Clowns, the lot of them!

 

[Avenger]

Yeah, no one is making calls on week to week team selection apart from BA, his coaching staff and probably Gutho & Junior if it is in regards to a debutant. I only say that last bit because BA made it clear that he wasn't going to pick Jake to debut, but the 'senior players' and other coaching staff convinced him to.

I remember that and believe that’s the case. Probably why his younger son hasn’t debuted even though offensively he is better than Jake was at the same age. I don’t agree with the playing Sanders strategy. He isn’t ready and would be smashed in the NRL as he wouldn’t be able to contribute defensively. Not yet anyway.

However I can understand the kid and his family being pissed if he promised him first crack if the halves went down.

 

[yy_cheng]

I remember that and believe that’s the case. Probably why his younger son hasn’t debuted even though offensively he is better than Jake was at the same age. I don’t agree with the playing Sanders strategy. He isn’t ready and would be smashed in the NRL as he wouldn’t be able to contribute defensively. Not yet anyway.

However I can understand the kid and his family being pissed if he promised him first crack if the halves went down.

Ya think MA would have already been picked as 14 if his name was not Arthur?

 

[Poupou Escobar]

You go on a bit....

I never said The CEO never discussed how to run the business any better from the board ffs.

Also you don't think the board wasn't working with those 2 clown CEOs when we f**ked up???

It was a far less professional and more political board back then.

 

[Avenger]

Ya think MA would have already been picked as 14 if his name was not Arthur?

Yes.

 

[84 Baby]

Ya think MA would have already been picked as 14 if his name was not Arthur?

No no apparently we’re continuing to pick Lussick and play Hands out of position in order to clear the decks for Mrthur. Wily nepotism by BA